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Posted By Jensonb

I don't know, my interest in Destiny is pretty much zero. I have a feeling they aren't going to make their money back on this one.

That....is an odd reason to think a widely anticipated and hugely promoted game is going to lose money.

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Posted By Milkman

Dan is a fucking maniac.

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Posted By Homelessbird

@chris2klee: It's a shame you feel that way about Dan, and Americans.

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Posted By Fear_the_Booboo

Love Dan but he has shit tastes.

Game of Thrones over Lord of the Rings?

MONKEYBONE?

o.O

(I actually love him for being the only person that got me angry over tastes on the internet, you're doing great work Dan!)

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Posted By chucklyfun

Anyone who likes GI Joe should play the Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars 3DS game.

The dialogue and themes were GI Joe all the way and it was a lot of fun once you took it like that.

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Posted By KaneRobot

A few times every year, without fail, Jeff brings up something totally random that is part of my history as well. This time it's the Madballs comic book limited stores.

"We live in a gross-ery!"

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Posted By greenbergMD

Heating up hotdogs in a shoebox? I mean I don't even know what to do with that. Just when I think Dan can't get any stranger blows past the previous benchmark. Please oh please let him be trolling us all with this stuff.

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Posted By Mezmero

I love cartoon talk. G.I. Joe holds up in a lot of goofy ways. I rewatched the movie somewhat recently and it's still pretty awesome and also super weird. I'm certainly in agreement that not as much of the Transformers stuff holds up as well but some of it is still kind of great. Starscream and Cobra Commander are both great cowardly villains. Rest in peace Christopher Collins.

My big problem upon looking back on the 80's stuff is how it's a lot about villains struggling against the good guys instead of the other way around. That's probably one of the reasons I ended up gravitating towards anime later on since more of them depict the good guys actually struggling to win Sure Cobra stacked the cards in their favor with every scheme but seeing them lose so thoroughly was at times pathetic. How many red lasers does it take to kill one Joe? I don't have a punchline, I honestly want to know. That's why the G.I. Joe episodes with multiple parts were some of the best because there was a lot more suspense week to week.

This podcast is better than ever. Thanks for keeping it going for all these years.

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Edited By Corvak

Dan. Never talk about Lord of the Rings again. I like you, but you're wrong.

But Brad has a point. LOTR has been portrayed terribly in video game form. The only one I actually enjoy is Lord of the Rings Online.

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Posted By Efesell

I think that, as a fan of both, my brain just completely rebooted at saying LOTR and Game of Thrones were the same.

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Posted By outerabiz

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jul/15/why-modern-bathroom-wasteful-unhealthy-design

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Posted By AdamT85

I think this is the first time PlanetSide 2 has been mentioned on the podcast.

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Posted By Gold_Skulltulla

"I like watching the womens"

-Drew

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Posted By ripelivejam

Love Dan but he has shit tastes.

Game of Thrones over Lord of the Rings?

i actually subscribe to this school of thought myself, though i do dig LOTR too

finish the goddamn book george

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Posted By JeffGoldblum

Fuck yeah CDi stream!

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Edited By UnInvincible

Honey Nut Chex is the best cereal of all time.

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Posted By Ford_Dent

@corvak: I didn't care for LOTR Online, but I really have a soft spot for War in the North. Decent combat, hilarious voice acting (not always intentionally), and you can summon a fucking eagle to take out dudes. I sicced an eagle on a troll, and it pecked out its fucking eyes.

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Posted By Jonny_Anonymous

Dan fanboys over G.I Joe

Dan thinks people who enjoy the Halo fiction are dweebs....

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Posted By dvdwalker8

Dan's stories had me cracking up several times throughout. Thanks, man. I freaking love the Lord of the Rings movies though.

I see where G.I. Joe is on Netflix. I'll probably try to watch a few this weekend. The second live action G.I. Joe movie is better than the first.

I'll be saving this episode to listen to again when I need some laughs.

Have a great vacation, Jeff.

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Posted By ThornBlackstar

Not seeing this charm that people see in Dan.
Starting to think he has a post-it on his arm, reminding him to breath.

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Edited By Sydlanel

@thornblackstar said:

Not seeing this charm that people see in Dan.

Starting to think he has a post-it on his arm, reminding him to breath.

To be honest, I don't understand why some people think it's a great addition to the team...

Really? Lord of the Rings is a lame version of Game of Thrones? Reading half a book and watching the movies is not an informed opinion.

Someone has to let him know when he's spouting ignorant idiocy.

Ok, I don't love the movies spawned of the Tolkien trilogy, and the books haven't really aged very well with me, and I clearly don't appreciate what pop culture has done to it (yes... what are those games doing with the lore?).

But that comparison is just...NO! There's a simple matter of how carefully they are written. As entertaining as Game of Thrones may be, it's comparing Lady Gaga to Mozart.

I kinda miss Vinny ...

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@sydlanel: He likes GoT, doesn't like LOTR. He gave both the movies and the book a shot, didn't like either. That's not ignorance, that's personal preference. Attacking someone's personal opinion like yours is fact is just dumb.

Anyways, people like Dan because of his enthusiasm and humor. You might not like him as a personality, and that's fine.

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Posted By Efesell

@sydlanel: The oft-times weird and wildly differing opinions make him pretty damn entertaining.

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Edited By heatDrive88

How on earth Dan has even remotely managed to come this far using ONLY disposable plates and cutlery is completely beyond me.

To which, the only answer I have for the garbage wasteland that he and like-minded people are creating:

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@amyggen said:

@sydlanel: He likes GoT, doesn't like LOTR. He gave both the movies and the book a shot, didn't like either. That's not ignorance, that's personal preference. Attacking someone's personal opinion like yours is fact is just dumb.

Anyways, people like Dan because of his enthusiasm and humor. You might not like him as a personality, and that's fine.

Well I edited my comment, but just reading half a book, and watching the movies, doesn't really constitute an informed opinion ( also, I don't think he has read the novels of Game of Thrones).

If someone decided by some movie adaptations of Isaac Asimov's books, they could would say he is a terrible writer. But that opinion is unfounded and incorrect, and criticizing it isn't dumb.

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@efesell said:

@sydlanel: The oft-times weird and wildly differing opinions make him pretty damn entertaining.

but I can go to scientology forums for that.

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Posted By zdgro

Wow Dan is cheap.

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@sydlanel said:

@amyggen said:

@sydlanel: He likes GoT, doesn't like LOTR. He gave both the movies and the book a shot, didn't like either. That's not ignorance, that's personal preference. Attacking someone's personal opinion like yours is fact is just dumb.

Anyways, people like Dan because of his enthusiasm and humor. You might not like him as a personality, and that's fine.

Well I edited my comment, but just reading half a book, and watching the movies, doesn't really constitute an informed opinion ( also, I don't think he has read the novels of Game of Thrones).

If someone decided by some movie adaptations of Isaac Asimov's books, they could would say he is a terrible writer. But that opinion is unfounded and incorrect, and criticizing it isn't dumb.

What makes you say he hasn't read the GoT books?

He read the parts of the book he could stand before figuring out that it wasn't for him. I don't know what more you could want than that. You don't have to read the whole book to voice your opinion on it, and his opinion is that what he read was boring as shit. You might disagree with that, but since it's his opinion and he states it as his opinion and not some universal fact, it's not "unfounded and incorrect". He never said anything about Tolkien as a writer, just that he was bored by the book.

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Posted By Sydlanel

@amyggen said:

@sydlanel said:

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What makes you say he hasn't read the GoT books?

He read the parts of the book he could stand before figuring out that it wasn't for him. I don't know what more you could want than that. He never said anything about Tolkien as a writer, just that he was bored by the book.

Yes true, he never said whether he had or hadn't read the GoT novels, that was my assumption, but it doesn't really matter towards this point. However, he did literally say 2 things: That "The Lord of the Rings sucks", and that GoT was pretty much the same thing but better.

It's still the same like saying that Asimov's and Silverberg "the positronic man" sucks, without having read much of it, but watching the rather awful Bicentennial Man. Sorry, but it's not a respectable opinion.

I respect dissenting opinions, I enjoy funny controversy: IE I like Majora's mask but I've always laughed at how much Jeff despises it. But this sort of willful stubbornness manages to rub me the wrong way.

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Posted By BeyondStrange

@sydlanel said:

@amyggen said:

@sydlanel: He likes GoT, doesn't like LOTR. He gave both the movies and the book a shot, didn't like either. That's not ignorance, that's personal preference. Attacking someone's personal opinion like yours is fact is just dumb.

Anyways, people like Dan because of his enthusiasm and humor. You might not like him as a personality, and that's fine.

Well I edited my comment, but just reading half a book, and watching the movies, doesn't really constitute an informed opinion ( also, I don't think he has read the novels of Game of Thrones).

If someone decided by some movie adaptations of Isaac Asimov's books, they could would say he is a terrible writer. But that opinion is unfounded and incorrect, and criticizing it isn't dumb.

I couldn't disagree with you more on this point. Actually trying something, even if you don't finish it, before forming an opinion on it is better than what most people do.

Dan actually tried reading it and didn't like it. You can definitely get an opinion from half a book. Let me use a personal example. So, I decided to check out "Ready Player One" because everyone was into it at the time. By the seventh paragraph, I knew I hated everything about it. I would tell others my opinion and they would say "well, you didn't give it enough a chance," so I read half of it and still had the same opinion. Finally, I was forced to be immobile for a few months do to a bad injury, so I decided "I'm stuck here, I'll finish this shit." It never got better. Those same reasons I hated that first chapter persisted through the whole damn thing. I just wasted my time reading it.

That is one thing I like a lot about Dan. He is very secure in himself and his tastes are against the norm, but not in the "against the norm" ways that are accepted by subcultures. I find his unique ways of thinking fascinating.

Also, I cooked a hot dog in a shoe box for second grade. I am shocked so many people don't know that is a thing. We also built horrible sun dials and learned about finger printing that day. I think it was a special day to celebrate the Greek? I have no idea what any of that has to do with Greece....

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Posted By foxmulder

We need a Premium Podcast that is just dedicated to all of the weird stuff Dan has done in his life.

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Posted By chilibean_3

I am convinced Dan's eventual demise is going to be at such a Darwin award level of ridiculous that morning zoo style radio shows will report on it around the world.

Something like, a San Francisco man died during a zoo visit last Friday when he stuck his head in a lion's mouth thinking it was a drinking fountain. When ask why he might do this his friends commented that he never knew lions were actually real animals.

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@sydlanel said:

@amyggen said:

@sydlanel: He likes GoT, doesn't like LOTR. He gave both the movies and the book a shot, didn't like either. That's not ignorance, that's personal preference. Attacking someone's personal opinion like yours is fact is just dumb.

Anyways, people like Dan because of his enthusiasm and humor. You might not like him as a personality, and that's fine.

Well I edited my comment, but just reading half a book, and watching the movies, doesn't really constitute an informed opinion ( also, I don't think he has read the novels of Game of Thrones).

If someone decided by some movie adaptations of Isaac Asimov's books, they could would say he is a terrible writer. But that opinion is unfounded and incorrect, and criticizing it isn't dumb.

Disagree. Reading half a book is more than enough to form an opinion on it, especially when it's the length of books like Lord of the Rings. I read a book and a half of LOTR series. I've seen the LOTR movies. I think they are passable at best aside from a few chunks and the books are mostly boring. I've been told that RotK is "the best" but if the first book and a half bored me that much, it's not worth continuing. That's my informed opinion. I actually was bored by the time I got halfway through Fellowship, but finished it, because people told me it got better. I couldn't make it through all of the second. I don't get this idea that he is ignorant for disliking them, and thinking something else in the genre is what he wanted out of it and thus similar but much better. My boyfriend is a FREAKING GIGANTIC LOTR fan and even HE doesn't look down on me OR Dan for not liking them. Honestly if anything forcing myself to finish the first book made me dislike it more than I would have otherwise, and Dan would probably be the same.

I think it's fair for Dan not to like LOTR based on 3 movies and half a book. If a book that size doesn't get good halfway through, it's not worth spending the time reading the rest.

Also I think Tolkien is a pretty terrible writer.

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Posted By MeatSim

I'm eating a fork with a fork!

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Edited By Sydlanel

@djm389: and @lokilaufey: hmmm yeah, no.

In fact reading something incompletely can generate an even more incorrect appreciation. Specifically in mediums where character development and narrative are supposed and intended to unfold and evolve. It's actually a problem with a lot of trailers for movies today, because thinking that you know what to expect can often end up being detrimental to the movie as a whole ( and it happens in most narrative mediums ).

Reading Catcher in the Rye without reading the ending is arguably worse than not reading it at all, since a lot of the meaning derives specifically from the third act, while the first parts of the book seem to go on a completely different direction. Likewise, In the Lord of the rings, a lot of the really significant narrative doesn't reveal itself until the second book (and some that doesn't come in till the third).

Its like watching the first half an hour of star wars and saying it's a bad series. It may be true that some narratives don't evolve, and in that sense reading a few pages can give you a pretty good idea of the whole thing. But you cant really know that.

I won't say Tolkien is the best writer who ever lived, not even close nor that his books are easy light reading, but that's very different from saying they lack quality. Comparing it to R.R.Martin isn't really fair in any way, As GoT is more akin to a bloody Medieval Telenovella than a high fantasy novel.

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Posted By Dallas_Raines

@sydlanel: You are the annoying fanboy stereotype.

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@sydlanel: You are the annoying fanboy stereotype.

lol of what?

I don't even really like the Lord of the Rings very much. But it's a far cry from claiming it sucks.

If you're looking for High Fantasy literature, it is probably the best example of it. But not above criticism... it has some pretty glaring issues.

I do however really like reading a lot though... so maybe I'm a fanboy of that.

Lets not do personal attacks though, that's not nice.

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Posted By Fenris

You Guys should check out G.I. Joe Resolute, It is Freaking Awesome. Here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SunBHrLpZlg

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Posted By xXHesekielXx

HEY EVERYONE ITS TUESDAY!

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@sydlanel: Unless you're trying to render a proper critique or analysis I'd say that "It was really boring so I had to stop" is a perfectly valid opinion for pretty much any medium. If something has totally failed to grab my interest then it really doesn't matter at all how nuanced it may get at a later stage.

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Posted By schmitty

Dan lives like a child. wtf.

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Posted By nomtank

Drew "There's boobs!" Scanlon

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@efesell: fair, I stopped reading the Cryptonomicon after volume 2...

but I wouldn't say "it sucks" is a valid assessment in that case. And I don't think it would be fair to make quality comparisons either... comments are not previews are not quicklooks are not reviews...

Anyhow, hey..I just don't like people declaring absolutes so vehemently without stronger foundations.. but that's just what I think.

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Posted By krabboss

@sydlanel said:

@thornblackstar said:

Not seeing this charm that people see in Dan.

Starting to think he has a post-it on his arm, reminding him to breath.

To be honest, I don't understand why some people think it's a great addition to the team...

Really? Lord of the Rings is a lame version of Game of Thrones? Reading half a book and watching the movies is not an informed opinion.

Someone has to let him know when he's spouting ignorant idiocy.

Ok, I don't love the movies spawned of the Tolkien trilogy, and the books haven't really aged very well with me, and I clearly don't appreciate what pop culture has done to it (yes... what are those games doing with the lore?).

But that comparison is just...NO! There's a simple matter of how carefully they are written. As entertaining as Game of Thrones may be, it's comparing Lady Gaga to Mozart.

I kinda miss Vinny ...

The Lord of the Rings movies are pretty awful, to be fair. The first is a nice adventure movie, but the second two are a bunch of boring action sequences.

I don't think it's unfair to compare the screen adaptation of LotR to the screen adaption of GoT. The genre is somewhat similar, but they're both executed differently. It's fine preferring one over the other, who cares.

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@efesell said:

@sydlanel: Unless you're trying to render a proper critique or analysis I'd say that "It was really boring so I had to stop" is a perfectly valid opinion for pretty much any medium. If something has totally failed to grab my interest then it really doesn't matter at all how nuanced it may get at a later stage.

This, basically. It's not his job to finish books he gets halfway through and dislikes it. He's not writing a review for it. So he's perfectly entitled to go "I didn't like it, it bored me."

Pff, screw LOTR anyway. Dan's glee about getting into the G.I. Joe cartoon was amazing. Now THAT is quality storytelling!!

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Posted By stryker1121

Gi Joe: The Movie was the Cobra-La stuff, no? It's not bad at all, definitely worth checking out - at least from my rose-colored recollections.

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Posted By Beinhart

I really like how dan is shaking Things up ,dont agree but surley enjoy his views

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A Song of Ice and Fire is good because: "It has maesters. They're like old guys that do alchemy and stuff. It's cool there's a lot more boobs in it." Is Dan for real?

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Posted By Efesell

Sick ass Missouri burn

I was briefly annoyed but then I was like "Yeah. Yeah..."