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Posted By guip1408

Lez go!!

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Posted By Fatwonton

Sweet. Just before gym.

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WOO!

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Posted By LittleWask

Did they do an aftershow today? I didn't see one.

Thanks duders, looking forward to listening on the drive home tonight!

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Condolences to Jeff, Ben, Brad and everyone out west. As someone who just went through a hurricane a month ago in South Florida after not having to go through one in over 10 years, having supplies in the event of power outage is a way of life. Good things to have for an emergency are things like battery-powered radios, batteries (of every type), non-perishable goods, a NOAA weather radio (for hurricanes and weather related emergencies), a battery-powered fan, a cooler, and a ton of water, among other things. It's always good to check on your supplies once or twice a year to make sure they still work! I neglected to do that this year and it bit me in the ass by finding out the day before it going to hit that my battery-operated portable TV/radio didn't work because of connection issues due to corrosion. It was a real bummer. Thankfully, I had a couple of tiny AM/FM radios from like 2005 that took double-A batteries and worked without any issue.

I know it's easy to think our phones and computers can do everything but I could not get a connection on my smartphone for two or three days after the hurricane. I had to rely on an AM/FM radio for my information for about 2 or 3 days.

It never hurts to buy a battery-operated radio and a bunch of batteries just in case!

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Edited By moderateTrouble

haven't listened to the podcast yet, but when this posted my boyfriend sent me the thumbnail picture and asked me what it was (im premed/biochemist).

i told him it was a protein, tho i didn't know what kind it was off the top of my head. so i reverse-google searched it and literally said out loud "GOD, i should have freaking known."

i can't wait to see what that-special-gene has to do with this weeks bombcast. i love whenever they talk about science-y stuff, haha!

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Edited By Cagliostro88

God i'm so tired of the way the discussion unfolds every single time we have a spreading of shitty practices in the gaming industry. Always the same, never a strong pro-consumer voice (even with the new hires :( ) which could take it in interesting places. It's just: "poor innocent developer saints, businnesmen greedy devils at fault!; developing costs are always going up (but never mention cost-cuts or increased revenues like with the switch to the digital market), consumer should just pay more straight away. Also these practices somehow only hit fantasy investement bankers and not their main demographics?"

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Posted By ildon

@benpack Overwatch event items are not limited edition. So far, every event item has come back next year. All the events are yearly. Even the "Olympics" event comes back every summer (not every 4th summer). And by the second event they released (maybe the third? I can't remember for sure), they had allowed people to buy event skins with in-game gold instead of making them loot-box-exclusive, with them only being available for purchase while the event is active.

I realize some people still aren't happy with that situation, but how you described it on the podcast felt misleading. So far, the only things in the game that have been "one time only" (that I know of) are the ladder ranking icons.

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Posted By Humanity

@cagliostro88: Don't forget about the good ol' "well if you take inflation under account games are cheaper than ever!"

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Edited By Monkeyman04

I know what the guys are going through with the smoke stuff. A month ago there was a huge fire on the Columbia Gorge that was started by some dumb ass with a firework. Here in Vancouver, WA, USA it was pretty fucking smokey and ash falling everywhere.

This what the sun looked like in the middle of the day.
This what the sun looked like in the middle of the day.

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'Let's just make a fun video game' is a phrase that I feel is too often missing from the industry these days. I think thats part of what made Shadow of Mordor so appealing, it was happy to put all it's systems on display without feeling to need to provide deep in-world explanations for all of them and it's good to hear Shadow of War continues that.

I did get bummed out when the conversation then turned to the potential to read deep into the ethics of enslaving a group of beings to do your bidding. When I play a game I'm happy to just enjoy it for what it is as an escape from the real world without having to wonder about what it says about society or the world around it.

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Posted By zoofame
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Posted By amythehotter

@cagliostro88: if your gonna be against micros i respect and admire those who say they dont like them period. No sway for those who say they dont have time cause work and need to skip to the fun with a small 10 buck purchase or those who say the grind just isnt worth their time etc. Hell chief respect for those who go against the grain and say even cosmetics are annoying for micros/loot boxes. Cause in all honesty 20 years ago you unlocking all the outfits in your little fighter was a chore but it was doable in a reasonable time frame. Games like overwatch make it so those outfits will keep coming and youll never have your complete set in a reasonable time. I guess it just comes down to preference and im in the camp those willing to put up the cash or time to unlock stuff deserve it. Were not entitled to getting everything in a videogame unlike how we experience other media (books, movies, tv) games are test/challenges where your not guarrented to make it past the first level yet alone end until you prove you can or fork up what the developer thinks is enough to merit you deserved it. Sounds Sh1tty and it is but thats how it is. I see a trend in games just going free to play now thou so it could be cool to get tons of single player games for free to try out with constant ads/lootboxes/begs for donations. I and according to achievements know most people dont even get past the first few levels of a game or about 4-6 hours so i wouldnt even feel the grind before i moved to the next free game. Call me a sucker lol. But i love the opinions in the comments on why micros are bad. Helped me get a good perspective on things.

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Posted By ripelivejam

@amythehotter: You sound like quite the judgemental person. Have your own opinion, but live and let live.

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@stinger061: Totally agree, SOW is a ridiculous and fun sandbox so far. I can divorce myself from the source material I admittedly love to have a great dumb time hunting some orc.

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Posted By moderateTrouble

@zoofame said:

@moderatetrouble: Gotta go fast... and establish a concentration gradient.

HA!! gotta go fast.. to ensure proper morphogenesis during embryogenesis! thanks, sonic.

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Posted By jedikv

The inflation argument is especially silly since it ironically doesn't take into account that wage growth has not kept up with inflation (granted inflation has been low in recent years) so the whole $60 is theoretically cheaper excuse falls apart. (And that's before we get into costs outside of the US).

@humanity said:

@cagliostro88: Don't forget about the good ol' "well if you take inflation under account games are cheaper than ever!"

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Edited By JohnyMyko

I know what the guys are going through with the smoke stuff. A month ago there was a huge fire on the Columbia Gorge that was started by some dumb ass with a firework. Here in Vancouver, WA, USA it was pretty fucking smokey and ash falling everywhere.

This what the sun looked like in the middle of the day.
This what the sun looked like in the middle of the day.

That's how most days looked like here in Portugal since July, we've been having fires roaring for most of the summer and hasn't stopped yet. Half of Europe's burned area this year was just in our tiny country. 156 fires erupted during one single day in various spots, it was hard to breathe outside even miles away.

Thankfully it's getting better now, and I really hope the ones they mentioned are getting better as well. Good luck to everyone out there in California!

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Posted By AdamALC

Sympathy for orcs... Now I have heard it all.

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Posted By Sweetz

I still don't get the whining over Shelob. So many critics are like "ugh, video games why do you need to be so icky" and I wonder if they've even seen her. She's not freaking Quiet. Yeah she's an attractive lady in the same way that any leading woman in a movie or TV show is attractive, but she's not overtly sexually gratuitous - not even close. Calling the character "sexy lady" is a stretch just to support the narrative du jour.

I'm not buying notion that Shelob was presented as a human to pander. Sorry, but I don't think a reasonably attractive mid-30s looking lady in a high necked long dress is what the people interested in simple sexual fantasy are really looking for. Being a human just makes it easier to have a character that can emote and be more interesting and have more nuance than a giant spider.

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Posted By MobiusFun

@sweetz: Its not so much her sexiness that's bad, its the fact that she is apparently a "shapeshifter" now but chooses to be a very standard video game pretty lady. Its boring. She could be anything but decides to be something very unimaginative. If you're going to break the lore, go hard or go home I guess.

Unrelated to that: Not sure why people are upset about the orc slavery thing. My impression from the movies is that the orcs are undead elves brought back to life for the sole purpose of being soldiers for Mordor... right? I don't think something like that is deserving of personhood but also, my knowledge of LotR stuff is shaky.

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Edited By JamesM

@brad, don't listen to Jason: the Final Cut changed nothing meaningful about the ending. You can check out a list of differences here. It's mainly alternative takes, along with a few fixes like painting out wires, replacing a stunt double's head, overdubbing an incorrect line, etc. Also the colour grade is different, which some people don't like because it looks more modern and "digital". But the substantial differences (including to the ending, the notorious voiceover and the addition of the unicorn dream) are between the theatrical cuts (US and international) and the director's cut. That's where the implication that Deckard is a replicant was made more concrete. Here is the relevant comparison.

@stinger061 said:

When I play a game I'm happy to just enjoy it for what it is as an escape from the real world without having to wonder about what it says about society or the world around it.

Look, I get that it can be a bit of a downer to frame things in this light, but that doesn't make it any less meaningful or valid. I had heaps of fun with Shadow of Mordor, but also there's a lot about that game that's kind of sketchy when you take a moment to think about it (much of which is carried over from the books or the films). You can ignore all that if you like, but complaining when others don't can make it seem like you want to shut down discussion just because it makes you uncomfortable, which would be pretty petulant. And honestly, will this brief discussion actually mar your enjoyment of the game at all?

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Sympathy for orcs... Now I have heard it all.

I think the point is that they're written to be inherently unsympathetic, which is an idea in itself which has some pretty unpleasant implications. It's a useful shortcut and it works, but as with all things it doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Anyway, whatever, enjoy the game. I hope to, too. Just don't think it's absurd for others to consider the attitudes it implicitly represents.

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Posted By guynamedbilly

Having empathy for inanimate objects is always ridiculous.

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Posted By CurrySpiced

"Come on video games, really?" is one of the best things I've ever heard Brad say.

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Posted By Turambar

Was that a My Hero Academia reference out of Ben? "Best Geneist"?

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orc ethics is a silly conversation. talking about a work of fiction from someone who lived through ww2. orc is in a way kind of a dumb simple analogy for "the enemy". sure there's issues there if you wanna look for issues but as far as lotr lore existing as a means to explore the human condition and war using fiction.. it seems kind of egregious to then reply to that with "but won't someone think of the orcs???????".

also .. on loot boxes. blizzard can get away with making a billion dollars in microtransactions for the very reason that you can buy overwatch, play it for a month or two. you may not like and want to continue playing the game. but if you DO like the game, you know it's going to be something you can return to and play long term with out having a commitment of needing to pay more money. the longevity of their games play a big part into why the loot box system works.

shadow of mordor seems like the game you will buy (maybe during a steam sale ... perhaps?) play for a week or two and move onto something else. perhaps i'm wrong but it seems utterly misguided to apply the blizzard model to every game fathomable. big bad load of hot burning garbage.

( good podcast, dudes! )

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"Live from Transylvania, Gamespot presents: The Hotspot. And now here is your 'Ghoooost' master: Riiiiiich GALLUUUUUP!" Don't ask me why that specifically stuck with me after all these years, maybe because it was for a Halloween episode and it's that time of year.

With the way things are going in the home console business I can't help but wonder if we're headed towards another market crash on the software end of things. The idea that the most valuable game deals are happening on a micro level of indie development and smaller studio projects makes this endless cycle of loot boxes in triple A games feel like some desperate cling to life from publishers. Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the sheer variety of smaller games being made available and I can easily ignore the temptations of that no good Michael Transactions. I'm just trying to hold out hope that bigger games can have higher aspirations than devolving into delivery mechanisms for gatcha scams. Plus there's the fact that the current console hardware is already woefully underpowered to the point that these half-step revisions create even more layers of uncertainty for the average consumer.

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haven't listened to the podcast yet, but when this posted my boyfriend sent me the thumbnail picture and asked me what it was (im premed/biochemist).

i told him it was a protein, tho i didn't know what kind it was off the top of my head. so i reverse-google searched it and literally said out loud "GOD, i should have freaking known."

i can't wait to see what that-special-gene has to do with this weeks bombcast. i love whenever they talk about science-y stuff, haha!

This is the happiest a comment has made me in a while. Implicit trolling through podcast art.

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Jim Sterling did a video related to this just this week and I think he makes some solid points as well since those discussing it have come in on both sides of it with different factors. I would assume as with most things, there are many variables and lots of factors that really determine what is profitable or "needed". But when talking about bigger companies versus "indie" I think it is easier to group them into which camp they are in. Of course I'm also a cynical consumer and any company (read: all of them) that is about making a profit it always comes down to only profit, always.

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Posted By GiantLizardKing

As a dude who loves the bombcast, but doesn't and will never care about a handful of often discussed games, series and topics, I would greatly appreciate time stamps in the description of these shows.

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Posted By Twoflower

Best part of this podcast for me was walking to work at Cowgirl Creamery while Ben says he loves Mt. Tam

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Posted By KaneRobot

Sick of people retroactively shitting on Mordor as Game of the Year a few years back. Mordor was a fucking incredible game and well deserving of the award. Easily holds up alongside other past Game of the Year winners like GTA 4 and Uncharted 2.

This year's game, not so much.

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Posted By ichthy

Gene names can get pretty weird, since whoever discovers them can name them pretty much anything, and scientists are both weird and easily amused. Coincidentally, there's a gene called SWS, otherwise known as the Swiss Cheese gene. It was named that because fruit flies with a mutation in that gene have holes in their brain.

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Posted By stinger061

@jamesm: If others want to have the discussion that of course perfectly fine. I didn't mean to come across as 'I don't think about it this way so nobody else should', just sharing my views on how I take it. As you say it's easy enough for me to ignore this part of the discussion.

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Posted By toshi0815

I bought Gundam Breaker 3, because it looked fun. But I knew nothing about all the suits in the game. So now I'm watching every single Gundam show/movie in release order and then I can finally play the game.

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Posted By billmcneal

Method Man and Redman and Cuphead and Mugman

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Posted By MasterRain

I'm a biochemist, and it was initially hilarious hearing the name in lectures and serious discussions about that protein. It's not inconsequential either, whole labs are dedicated to studying the expression of that protein!

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@kanerobot: As someone who has yet to play the first game, the only thing I think is strange is that the issues mentioned by Jeff didn't also plague the first game (or if they did, no one ever said as much.) How did they manage to flub it so bad?

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Edited By GirlUsoCrazy

I'm late on this but re: your reheating fries issue, use a toaster oven at 300F for like 5 minutes. Put them in on an aluminum sheet. Don't store them in the cardboard sleeve or then they take on the taste of that and it ruins them.

And yes they have already invented Microwave 2. I have a convection based microwave oven, you can put metal in it. Get one or use a toaster oven if you like crispy things instead of soggy things. Use low temperatures so you heat them and don't burn them, and put it up to full at the last minute if you want to brown something.

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Edited By jasperkazai

On the topic of a "Microwave 2": while we're talking with a shaky grasp of science, I always wonder why there isn't some sort of Coldwave. As in, it freezes things, but fast like a microwave heats things. Maybe these do exist, but they're not commonly available. Definitely has less applicable uses, but there's still situations where I wish something was frozen or at least chilled then and there.

Dust hasn't been top dog for decades, Brad. Dust 2 ate its lunch out of the gate.

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@jasperkazai: I'm no scientist, but my recollection from some physics and thermodynamics courses is that generally it's easier to add energy to a system (creating heat) than it is to remove energy from a system (lowering the temperature of the system). So there's a variety of cost efficient ways to heat things, but not as many ways to cool things. Microwaves directly excite molecules in the food, which is why the food is warm but the air in the microwave isn't hot the way oven air is hot. There isn't an "antimicrowave" because I can't think of any physical process that deexcites molecules that would be in any way practical. The ice beams of Metroid and Mr. Freeze are actually way more unlikely than a lot of other sci-fi weaponry.

Traditional ovens and stoves make a surface or enclosed space hundreds of degree hotter than room temperature, and the food (being at room temperature or colder) tries to reach equilibrium; the difference is several hundred degrees, and an extreme difference in temperatures causes a more rapid change in temperature.

Fridges and freezers usually maintain respective temperatures of something like 5 degrees Celsius and -20 degrees Celsius. So if you throw something room temperature (20 degrees Celsius) into the freezer, that's only a difference of 40 degrees, and a minor difference in temperatures causes a much slower change in temperature.

In short, it already takes a lot of energy for your freezer to be constantly maintaining that -20 degrees Celsius enclosed space, and I don't think anyone has really made a consumer-level device that maintains lower temperatures than that. There are industrial flash freezing devices that are used by companies that make frozen dinners that have much lower temperatures and can rapidly cool food so that less ice crystals fuck up the food, but I don't think there's a consumer equivalent, possibly because the demand is low. If you want to cool something, you're stuck using ice cubes or throwing the whole thing in the freezer, unless you want to get in touch with a liquid nitrogen supplier (Will Smith probably knows a guy).