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Posted By MattyT

"TO THE CLOUD!" - taco

My thoughts when Microsoft was laying down these policies, and focusing so much on "The Cloud" as a concept. 'Cause they had to be high as fuck if they thought they wouldn't have to flip-flop on these policies.

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Posted By LadyAsh
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Edited By LeenPonyD

Unless I have they do a similar reversal on their Kinect policy--specifically the option to unplug the Kinect and sell it and still be able to use an XBone as a game console, or as I would prefer, never even have to pay money for the mediocre broken technology--I will not be buying the system.

He avoided answering almost every direct question with the traditional smoke screen tactics of boasting features that sound a lot like something mentioned in the question. We've come to accept from a politician, so MS does the same thing. It's unreasonable to treat anyone in this manner and expect loyalty.

Look at the Wii sales and popularity, most gamers do not want to have to move and shake their controller when they are playing a game, this is something that appeals to little children and the elderly. The Kinect is more of that mostly buggy technology demanding me to conform or be left behind.

Instead, I'm the one leaving it behind. Microsoft better drop some more of their ridiculous "required" policies if they really want to sell this machine.

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Posted By Xaviersx

Since both consoles had issues in the current gen, you'd best keep an eye on the one you champion as much as the one you chumpion, because if you look at both parent companies track records, they have a patent on trust issues that no one should ignore, not even for fanboyism.

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Posted By Zevvion

I don't buy it, the game disc should be as simple as a key that "unlocks" the game whenever it's put in. You can install game discs onto your HDD, so I call foul on not being able to take your library and share it anywhere. They have servers housing the DL links for digital purchases and if you were to install a disc and someone wanted to play your game in your family, you should be allowed to prompt a download from their servers on a game you own.

Not possible. The one who has the disc can use it indefinitely now that you don't have to be online anymore. That would make it extremely easy to pirate games.

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Edited By TranceQuina

Thanks, Frank Lee.

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Posted By ohio_wasabi

God damn it, Patrick is asking all the good questions but it sounds like they're just reading from a list of preselected answers.

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Posted By soulmanim3
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Posted By tricky69

@saga said:

I'm glad that they reconsidered. I canceled my PS4 pre-order and pre-ordered my Xbox One as soon as I read Scoop's article.

And Microsoft catches its first stupid little fishy...

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Posted By Fushichou187
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Posted By capnhaggis
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Edited By durden77

Patrick is killer with these interviews man. Always asks great questions, even when there's very little time. Thanks for the scoops scoops.

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Posted By MelficeVKM

It's a pity he can't talk freely, that last question could have been interesting. Microsoft speakingmen always sound so held back and careful in choosing their words

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Edited By geekbot

Awesome stuff Patrick!

I really hope that Microsoft does move forward with some of its more ambitious policies, regardless of what their stance on DRM and used game sales end up being.

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Posted By Plipster

@monkeyking1969:

@bigjeffrey said:

Did this go in the Interview Dumptruck or the Dumpster?

They should put audio in the Interview Dumptruck and video into the Broadcast Dumpster.

At the end of teh interview to Marc say "Thank you...roger." It sure sounds like he says, "Roger" not Patrick.

My god...Microsoft don't care about anybody! WHEN WILL THESE MONSTERS STOP?!?

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Edited By SeriousSgtStu

This is the first time I've seen Microsoft do anything other than bury their heads in the sand when facing open criticism, so good on them I guess. Now this console cycle is competitive again, so I'm hopeful that Sony will respond by getting rid of their subscription multiplayer; that model is ancient and it needs to die.

I suppose they have to subsidize that $100 mark down somehow though. Six months is a long time, and I hope this isn't the first set of concessions we'll see made by either company.

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Posted By Dredlockz

haha, Patrick, you magnificent troll. Some of those questions man...

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Posted By atomic_dumpling

I have the nagging suspicion that this might have something do with the EU basically classifying the XBox One as "spy technology" in its original form and openly pondering banning the thing.

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Posted By perfectlizardwizard

I don't buy it, the game disc should be as simple as a key that "unlocks" the game whenever it's put in. You can install game discs onto your HDD, so I call foul on not being able to take your library and share it anywhere. They have servers housing the DL links for digital purchases and if you were to install a disc and someone wanted to play your game in your family, you should be allowed to prompt a download from their servers on a game you own.

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Edited By dr_mantas

Whatever. Still PC all the way.

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Posted By Swordcery

The XB1 still has a ways to go to fix all my issues with it. Self-publishing is a HUGE deal, but it is nice that people are actually allowed to own their games, again.

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Posted By selfconfessedcynic

Sigh, I really don't like Microsoft spokespeople and executives. They always come off as smarmy assholes.

But hey - they fixed most of what I didn't like, so if they show me a game I want I'll actually consider picking up their console now.

Good for them.

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Posted By Zatoichi_Sanjuro

Seems to me the vast majority of Xbox fans thought the 'Family Sharing' meant ten people could have any game in your library designated for sharing. Except now it turns out it was only supposed to be a 45 min demo before being sent to the marketplace. Pretty much these same people are now lapping up Microsoft's "reversal" as if there aren't similar catches. As if a company that signaled it's anti-consumer intentions from the outset, deliberately and continually uses vague and misleading "information" regarding it's product, are suddenly trustworthy.

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Edited By koolaid

Honestly, this interview is a little depressing. He keeps using words like "passionate" fans and focuses on what people "loved" about the system.

It bums me out and here's why. Sure Microsoft is a business and their best interest is the most money possible... but there are still a lot of people who work there, people in the trenches and above, who are passionate about the xbox and love games and just want to bring the best console to people.

Obviously, the vast majority of people didn't want what xbox was selling. But the way they were dragged through the mud....

Just like that guy who exploded on twitter about the always online stuff, I'm sure there is a bunch of depressed people there. A lot of people who just feel like they want to make the best console they can, and the gamers hate them for it.

It's the most depressing part of working in the video game industry for me. The passion people have for gaming can create some beautiful things. But it can be such a double edged sword. It results in such vitriol sometimes. And it sucks.

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Posted By Godlyawesomeguy

Frankly?

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Posted By benderunit22

Ever closer to a future where I don't even have to read articles anymore as they're all gonna be available in audio form - in the cloud.

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Edited By ptys

Shouldn't have ended the interview with "How do you think Sony is reacting"? I little too pop column for Microsoft to take you seriously. Good interview though, I guess you were pressed for time.

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Edited By MonkeyKing1969

@bigjeffrey said:

Did this go in the Interview Dumptruck or the Dumpster?

They should put audio in the Interview Dumptruck and video into the Broadcast Dumpster.

At the end of teh interview to Marc say "Thank you...roger." It sure sounds like he says, "Roger" not Patrick.

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Edited By golguin

@homeslice said:

To those who are buying Xbox Ones instead of PS4s solely because of this change....you just make me laugh.

I know! We're still months away from launch, MS basically said "We don't need your money!" until they realized nobody was buying drinks, and now they're all, "Well, now we'll take your money," and now drinks are on the houzzzzzzzz!

People are puzzling.

I'm baffled by how they underestimated the number of people that would say "fuck you" to their policies. The pre order numbers must have been complete garbage for them to turn around and say "JK guys."

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Posted By MrMazz

This sounded a lot better after reading it. He still pretty much dodged a lot of the questions but frankly it didn't seem soooo abd.

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Edited By Krakn3Dfx

To those who are buying Xbox Ones instead of PS4s solely because of this change....you just make me laugh.

I know! We're still months away from launch, MS basically said "We don't need your money!" until they realized nobody was buying drinks, and now they're all, "Well, now we'll take your money," and now drinks are on the houzzzzzzzz!

People are puzzling.

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Posted By Homeslice

To those who are buying Xbox Ones instead of PS4s solely because of this change....you just make me laugh.

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Posted By MjHealy

$COOPZZZZ

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Posted By tourgen

Man I don't know. I don't get a good feeling hearing this guy talk. Just because he says frankly a lot doesn't mean they are having a frank conversation. In fact it felt very slippery and vague.

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Posted By Saga

I own both consoles and the overall gaming experience is much better in the 360. Sure, it's nice that PSN+ gives you discounted and free titles to download such as Uncharted 3 but I feel like the PS store is down for "update" every other week. Xbox One made a mistake that they are rectifying and that's what matters. Sony is no saint. Their latest firmware update locked many consoles and I still haven't forgotten how they lost people's credit card and personal information a year ago and took 2 weeks to make a statement.

@saga: Yes.. because that will teach those guys not to mess with you again!....right? So much for strong opinions and values.

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Edited By Bicycle_Repairman

@saga: Yes.. because that will teach those guys not to mess with you again!....right? So much for strong opinions and values.

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Edited By Oddballs

Hearing people from MS talk, and not just in this case, it's pretty clear why it's rare that anyone steps outside the box at Microsoft when they speak. It always seems like there's a virtual gun at their head, making them choose words their words carefully and not pull an "Orth".

So true. Most of this was seemingly read from a script. My favourite was the way he kept referring to 'Everyone telling us we fucked up and have shitty policies' as 'Gamers tell us what they love, and they tell us what they don't love'. Every response oozed with spin.

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Edited By LarryDavis

"TO THE CLOUD!" - taco

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Edited By Saga

I'm glad that they reconsidered. I canceled my PS4 pre-order and pre-ordered my Xbox One as soon as I read Scoop's article.

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Posted By Faltru

"The Cloud"

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Posted By Krakn3Dfx

Hearing people from MS talk, and not just in this case, it's pretty clear why it's rare that anyone steps outside the box at Microsoft when they speak. It always seems like there's a virtual gun at their head, making them choose words their words carefully and not pull an "Orth".

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Posted By LonestarrSB

Good interview...although considering going in he knew it would be a short interview...he could have chose a better question than asking about gamestop stock price.

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Posted By HatKing

That last question was pretty hilarious and a little uncomfortable. You could hear it in Marc Whitten's reaction.

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Edited By HairyMike87

For what I've gathered, they are just using "the cloud" as a term to mean dedicated servers and downloading things like driveatars. Also, people need to at least have a connection when they first buy it, so that still is somewhat of a barrier to people. I would think stores will allow people to setup their systems before taking it home if they really want it and live in a rural area.

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