Primordia needs to go through Steam Greenlight? What? Why?

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#1  Edited By CircleNine

Why does this even need to go through the Greenlight process? Wadjet have 6 quality adventure games up on Steam as it is, so there's a past relationship there which is what I was under the impression of before of what mattered whether people would need to go through the Greenlight process or not for new projects. They've shown that they don't just dump shovelware out, so I don't get it.

Anyways, you should go vote for this because it's stupid as hell that this has to go through Greenlight and it's looking to continue the trend of Wadjet putting out great adventure games.

Here is the page for it. You should be cool and do a vote maybe if you like good adventure games?

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#2  Edited By Ravenlight

Maybe it's cheaper to pay $100 to put it on Greenlight when they know it will succeed then to directly go to Valve certification?

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#3  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

It's pretty screwed up for Valve force developers already on Steam to go through Greenlight.

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#4  Edited By kn00tcn

not every dev with steam games even has all of their releases on steam

but anyway, greenlight is more of a community excitement measuring tool, who says anyone was forced into greenlight? if i was a dev, i probably would drop the internal valve process on purpose

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#6  Edited By fjordson

@BirdkeeperDan said:

It's not really a disadvantage because it gives useful information for gauging interest. Also it's probably voluntary...

Nope, they rejected the game and said they should submit it to greenlight.

It's some grade A bullshit, really. Wadjet Eye has put out a ton of quality games, some of them already on Steam, I'm not sure why they aren't given their proper place on Steam as a regular release. Valve has let through some garbage adventure games that aren't even half as good as what Wadjet Eye puts out.

Valve is fucking weird sometimes.

Anyways, they put out the launch trailer. It looks bloody fantastic. Unsurprising coming from Wadjet Eye.

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#8  Edited By fjordson

It just seems very inconsistent to me. Greenlight is for lesser known developers/publishers who are new to Steam. Or at least that's what I thought it was supposed to be. Wadjet Eye is neither. And while they'll survive without guaranteed Steam releases, it's a damn shame that they even have to compete for a spot and potentially lose out on sales.

I've heard Dave Gilbert mention how the Steam sale phenomenon really helped some of their past games (where you put something on sale, tons of people buy it, it goes off sale, and people still buy a bunch of copies because of word of mouth). Just hope Primordia makes it since it looks really special.

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#9  Edited By CircleNine

I'd argue that it would be pretty self serving and misleading to force a dev to go through the Greenlight process when it was a game you might otherwise accept (like they did with the past 6 games) for the purpose of being able to put "wow woah look at all these great games coming out of greenlight!" in some press release. If that's why they're doing this which no one will ever know. Apparently it was really difficult for them to initially get Gemini Rue on Steam or something though so I dunno whats up with it.

Either way I'll be getting the game, it'd just be great if I could get it through Steam to keep with the rest of them.

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#10  Edited By WadjetEye

Hey everyone! (What do you guys call yourselves? Bombinations? Giant bombers?)

I saw this thread via Google Alert. I just wanted to hop on and say thank you. This community was the very first to give us some major mainstream attention back when we were trying to get on Steam the first time around. Hopefully we can officially prove ourselves once and for all. Thanks again!

-Dave

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#11  Edited By BisonHero

Yeah, if you'll recall, Gemini Rue was done and available to buy and got a Quick Look, and then it was months and months before the game got onto Steam. So I'm kinda not surprised Steam has made them go through Greenlight. If anything, maybe all of us voting for it will get it on Steam quicker than the like 6-12 months it took Gemini Rue.

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#12  Edited By Zripwud

I got the review copy of this game and it's awesome guys. The world they've created is awesome, and is great in every classic adventure game kinda way. Except if you're looking for a hard adventure game, this is not it. But I'm loving it!

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#13  Edited By impartialgecko

@WadjetEye said:

Hey everyone! (What do you guys call yourselves? Bombinations? Giant bombers?)

I saw this thread via Google Alert. I just wanted to hop on and say thank you. This community was the very first to give us some major mainstream attention back when we were trying to get on Steam the first time around. Hopefully we can officially prove ourselves once and for all. Thanks again!

-Dave

At what point do you guys get to go to Valve and say "put our game on Steam, we made Gemini Rue"?

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#14  Edited By WadjetEye

@adam1808: I wish I knew. :) This is the life of an indie game developer, I'm afraid.

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#15  Edited By BeachThunder  Online

Yay!

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#16  Edited By Chummy8

BTW, Primordia got greenlit.

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#17  Edited By RVonE

Late to the party but I agree that it is kinda bullshit they had to go through greenlight. Glad they made it through, though.

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Just got the game. From what I played of the demo, the game seems really interesting, and the music is awesome!

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#19  Edited By Greenshoes

I'm just glad it is out. The demo was great.

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#20  Edited By xshinobi

It is crazy that they have to go through Greenlight. I just picked it up on GoG and got a few nice extras but it would be nice to have it on Steam for all the people that refuse to use any other service.

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It would make sense that putting popular indie games on Greenlight is an intentional move to specifically get Greenlight more attention.

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#22  Edited By prestonhedges

@Kenobi said:

It would make sense that putting popular indie games on Greenlight is an intentional move to specifically get Greenlight more attention.

Bingo.

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#23  Edited By mesklinite
@gladspooky said:


                   

@Kenobi said:

It would make sense that putting popular indie games on Greenlight is an intentional move to specifically get Greenlight more attention.

Bingo.



                   

               

I would assume this as well. It's extra publicity.
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#24  Edited By ajamafalous

Gemini Rue wasn't on Steam until several months after it came out. IIRC, Wadjet Eye had submitted it and Valve turned them down, saying they 'didn't think it fit with their audience.' Obviously it eventually made it onto Steam after being successful and drumming up some more buzz outside of it. I don't think it's too farfetched that they would tell them to go through Greenlight again if they felt the same way about Primordia, seeing as that's kinda the entire point of Greenlight (to see if the community actually wants a game).

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#25  Edited By Sooty

You guys saying Wadjet Eye are some well known studio are crazy. This is the first time I've heard of them.

I don't mean that to sound offensive, but some of the posters make it seem like Naughty Dog were having to go through Greenlight.

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#26  Edited By LilithGamer

Hey, I'm following the developer of Primordia on his blog and twitter, his name is Dave Gilbert :D

Haha he actually posted a few comments just above! Keep making great games Dave!! You're the best :D

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#27  Edited By AlexW00d

@LilithGamer said:

Hey, I'm following the developer of Primordia on his blog and twitter, his name is Dave Gilbert :D

Haha he actually posted a few comments just above! Keep making great games Dave!! You're the best :D

Dave Gilbert didn't develop Primordia. Wadjet Eye only published it.

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#28  Edited By LilithGamer

Oh, then I should read his blog more carefully :D I thought Dave was involved in the development too.

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#29  Edited By Syndrom

just finished the game, yeah it's short. But it's such a good game, really enjoyed my time with it. I need more of these type of games.

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#30  Edited By coaxmetal

I'm glad its out, but this is an example of valve using greenlight the way people were afraid they would, they are kicking games from established devs they have agreements with down to greenlight. Since the game got approved instantly, it was really just a wast of everyone's time.

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#31  Edited By coaxmetal

@rebgav said:

According to the wiki, it's the developer's first game. Seems like a valid Greenlight project, unless you think that Steam should prioritize a game simply because Wadjet Eye chose to publish it.

I think they certainly should, wadjet eye is a publisher and developer that has an established reputation and steam has an existing relationship with

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