This whole post is spoiler city for Avatar but the hidden spoiler parts are spoilers for District 9.

The biggest problem I have with the flick is that I didn't think they gave the main guy a good enough reason to turn on his own species. I know he fell in love with that Na'vi girl, but most of the their time together I felt the movie was just showcasing it's special effects budget, and I didn't really get a good sense of their developing relationship. Even if that guy would side with the Na'vi, I saw no reason why anyone else would. These people are supposed to be professional scientists and soldiers, not a bunch of tree huggers.

The element the humans are trying to mine on the planet is called unobtanium. Give me a fucking break, that sounds like something Rocky and Bullwinkle would try to find.

That sourpuss Michelle Rodriguez was firing missiles at a goddamn tree and she says “I didn't sign up for this shit” then she breaks formation and flies away. Why wasn't she court marshaled for that??

At the end, two guys decided to stay on the planet. I hope they like fucking each other because there are no girls on that planet. Even in the remote chance that they do bang one of the blue cats, a human cock is going to seem like a toothpick to them. Even if one of the guys shoves his whole arm up a na'vi twat, he's not going to feel good about himself afterwards.

I don't care how much you love those Indians, I mean Native Americans, I mean Na'vi. You'd have to be restarted to want to stay on that planet. The humans are going to have to wear those breathing masks for the rest of their lives. Are the filters on those things even going to last a year? When they eat (is there even food that humans can digest on that planet?) they'll have to take the mask off, take a bite of food, then put the mask back on while they chew it. That's going to get really old, really fast.

And the Na'vi didn't kill all the humans, they just made them leave. When they get back to their orbiting spaceship they'll probably just drop a nuke on that site and go mine somewhere on the other side of the planet.

This was the most over hyped movie in the past five years. I really expected more from the guy who made Aliens and T2.

Dances With Smurfs.

i have yet to see it mainly because it has no appeal to me but your post confirmed my desire to wait for it to be on t.v. and just have it be ambience in the background while i play games.

I can't wait what the story of Avatar 2 will be... 9 foot tall Red Cat-People with Dreadlocks?

"I can't wait what the story of Avatar 2 will be... 9 foot tall Red Cat-People with Dreadlocks? "

"I can't wait what the story of Avatar 2 will be... 9 foot tall Red Cat-People with Dreadlocks? "

Maybe it was more than that na'vi girl, it was seeing how ppl are destroying nature and it was about learning how to see like the na'vi. Maybe you lack empathy, you simply can't step in someone else's shoes or blue feet for a movie. You should be a hitman, you totally have the right attitude for it.

" It was a impressively made  film with a shitty story. It was pochahontus in space. "

You'd think a race smart enough to create giant robots (with giant knives) would be able to get rid of manual wheelchairs. I mean really, he has to push that thing in 2XXX? That's bullshit.

Oh good, haven't seen an Avatar hate thread in like.... 3 hours.

jsut to let u know it was private corporation military no us or any other country

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Maybe it was more than that na'vi girl, it was seeing how ppl are destroying nature and it was about learning how to see like the na'vi. Maybe you lack empathy, you simply can't step in someone else's shoes or blue feet for a movie. You should be a hitman, you totally have the right attitude for it.

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Maybe it was more than that na'vi girl, it was seeing how ppl are destroying nature and it was about learning how to see like the na'vi. Maybe you lack empathy, you simply can't step in someone else's shoes or blue feet for a movie. You should be a hitman, you totally have the right attitude for it.

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What no one found it emotional that they were about to destroy the na'vi's tree? or their internet connection? What about all that training, it's like totally different to a point where the main character what's his name doesn't want to go back to his crippled life.  
 
I didn't really care about iraq or overseas, however that shows you how it feels like when your country or home was invaded and bombed to hell and you have to experience it. It sort of made me think well is that how iraqis felt like and why they fought back? Maybe no one has any reference to compare to because living in such civilized society and stuff, you don't know what that feels like. I think James Cameron captured that perfectly. That's the metaphor of how I see it, or when columbus invaded the indians, imagine how they felt? Maybe i'm over thinking things, however it's still a good movie, ppl are being to critical of it.

Im still not interested in watching this. 

" It was a impressively made  film with a shitty story. It was pochahontus in space. "

This blog is as relevent as 'Just saw Star Wars: A new Hope, not impressed.' blog. Good job

Well I liked it...

The DVD/Blu-Ray comes out this Tuesday.  Is anyone interested in seeing it in 2D only at home?  I'm curious to know how a movie hyped as a 3D experience will sell when it can only be relived in 2D and in some cases on standard definition television sets.

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or their internet connection? "

Some of the points you mentioned were a little trivial but in general I can see where people with the view that the movie put too much into effects and not enough into story are coming from. I don't think I disliked it as much as some did but as I feared was the case before I saw it it was a good film that had been overhyped to be one of the greatest films ever made.

 @GetEveryone: The fact that unobtainium refers to any theoretical substance that is impossible to get is the reason I don't believe it was a good choice for a name. Maybe Cameron meant it as a reference to the physics joke, but when combined with names like Hometree and Avatar, it comes off as being as unoriginal as both of those. 
 
Also, you may be railing against the entirety of the internet here and not this thread, but no one here mentioned the scientific plausibility of the events of Avatar.
 
Maybe the reason that much of the internet community has written negative things about Avatar is that they were so ready to love it and their expectations were so high that the movie came off as a disappointment. I think that's what happened with me. With all of the hype, the names and plot were jarringly stupid.

" Well I liked it... "

I got about half way through and then just stopped watching. It was very dumb, especially internet made of trees, what the hell? 

i totally disagree.  
overhyped? and yet it made nearly $3 Billion? nah.  
 
you know what was overhyped though? 
District 9. 

" Dances With Smurfs. "

The story was shit but the thought gone into creating that planets flora and fauna was unbelievable.

" @mshaw006:@Alex_Murphy: AAAAARGH. The fucking internet and Avatar. I've had enough say on this already, but fuck uber-geek elitism. It's a good film (ground-breaking even, but that's purely technological), fun but throw-away.
 
Also, for all the snidey nit-picking, it would help if people even had the slightest clue as to what they are talking about. The science in Avatar is second to none and unobtanium is any theoretical substance which provides scientific means for an impossible experiment (lossless energy transference for example). Its use in Avatar is an in-joke of sorts. The fact that you deride it makes you look like a total pillock.
 
I'm hardly the films most staunch supporter, but threads like this infuriate me. It is the highest grossing film of all time, people absolutely adored it, yet the internet seems intent on purporting the idea that it is sub-quality. It's a blockbuster with brains (to a degree, the screenplay is largely brainless), give it a fucking break.
 
@supermike6: ...What? This is directly addressed. Its simply a monetary problem, and a comment on the treatment of vets. We have technology at this point in time, that isn't readily available to all. Christ, we even have surgery that isn't. As I said, nit-picking...Apologies for the bold. "

  This is actually the first time I've ever looked at anything online about people's opinions of Avatar. I didn't know hating Avatar had already reached that point where people made comments like, "  Oh good, haven't seen an Avatar hate thread in like.... 3 hours." Personally, I agree that it's good special effects and a horrible story. As a movie, without the effects, it's a train wreck. I don't hate it but I do feel like it doesn't deserve to be the most successful movie of all time.

3D was the only reason to see the film. Couldn't care less about the movie without the 3D.

" I can't wait what the story of Avatar 2 will be... 9 foot tall Red Cat-People with Dreadlocks? "

Enjoyed it for what it was.

LETS GET THIS OVER WITH

• Looks great
• Some decent voice acting
• Some decent action scenes
• 3D effects are groundbreaking

• Story isn't good
• Unoriginal plot as hell
• It is insanely hyped
• It's cool to hate on well-known stuff

I will never understand how people will criticize Avatar for being Dances With Wolves etc when District 9 was not only incredibly similar in plotting but had such an obvious message about apartheid right through its core that it's a much more preachy film.

" I will never understand how people will criticize Avatar for being Dances With Wolves etc when District 9 was not only incredibly similar in plotting but had such an obvious message about apartheid right through its core that it's a much more preachy film. "

" @HandsomeDead said:

" I will never understand how people will criticize Avatar for being Dances With Wolves etc when District 9 was not only incredibly similar in plotting but had such an obvious message about apartheid right through its core that it's a much more preachy film. "

How is District 9 like Dances With Wolves? I don't recall him slowly getting to know and falling in love with the culture of the "prawns", until he made himself one of them. He became one by accident and spent the movie trying to become human again. At best, yes, he fights his own kind to help the prawns, but only so that they won't kill him and so he can be made human again eventually, which is nothing like Dances With Wolves at all. "

" @JokerSmilez said:

" @HandsomeDead said:

" I will never understand how people will criticize Avatar for being Dances With Wolves etc when District 9 was not only incredibly similar in plotting but had such an obvious message about apartheid right through its core that it's a much more preachy film. "

How is District 9 like Dances With Wolves? I don't recall him slowly getting to know and falling in love with the culture of the "prawns", until he made himself one of them. He became one by accident and spent the movie trying to become human again. At best, yes, he fights his own kind to help the prawns, but only so that they won't kill him and so he can be made human again eventually, which is nothing like Dances With Wolves at all. "

Similar in plotting to Avatar not to Dances With Wolves. Guy doesn't like aliens, guy gets turned into one of the aliens, realises they're not so bad, spends the back half of the film fighting back against the humans. "

I saw it for the 3D. And I liked it.