anywhereilay

It's the hubris, all the overkill marketing, and that dreadful hat in hand apology.

I do think a part of it was how marketing attracted a lot of people who were looking for a GTA, which it wasn't going to be. But from the marketing you'd maybe believe it would've been without context.

Yeah, other games release all kinds of fucked up. But the context here is key. Remember those pre-release videos of it running on ps4 pro and one x? Every time somebody brings up cyberpunk, I slowly remember the catalogue of fuck ups and bad decision making that continued long before and after the actual release.

Outriders wasn't labelled as the next generation of open world. And where I'm at it is getting a not insignificant amount of stink. But its issues also weren't as meta as cyberpunk's.

Discloser: I only skimmed this thread, and I think you mention something about expectations, so I think I probably agree with everything you said.

Tombi/Tomba, not sure what kind of game that would be in this day and age.

I would take a spruce up of the older ones, HD textures and maybe remove zippo and that terrible event music from Tombi 2.

I really like the Jak and Daxter series but again, I'm not sure what I'd want to see in a sequel.

I'd like the L.A Noire ip to be revisited, game had legs to go somewhere really interesting.

I read that they're discontinuing the Forza series.

Phil Spencer said "Cars are an outdated mode of transport, and at Microsoft we're trying to reflect that moving forward" .

Expect a roadmap soon.

But why do you want Microsoft to do the same thing that you seem to dislike?

They're just sorry they were caught. Not showing ps4/xbone footage or review copies shows intent to deceive, they tried their best to sweep this under the rug.

I think the most shocking thing is 'this is another video game'. Not some generational masterpiece that redefines what we expect from games. And that would be fine, if the marketing and hype didn't tell us otherwise.

I began to lose interest when those xbox gameplay videos came out, with a Keanu paralysed from the nose up giving serious Oblivion vibes. And the gameplay just looked a little flat.

I will play it, and I will probably enjoy it or, failing that, Fuck Off I guess...

EDGY

Hmm, in the middle here. I don't think I'd be considered a heavy gamer, not investing in battle pass etc, not spending more than 10 hours averagely on gaming in a week.

Still, I enjoy these things, much like I enjoy reading, movies and music. Sometimes they provide a nice wind-down, and sometimes they don't really do it for me, or I don't have the time. Cycles I guess.

I don't really see games only use being escapism, you can certainly play games and have a very fulfilled life.

@sanderjk: I have an MSI board and those lousy Realtek drivers. Back audio jack has stopped working, still no sign of life, and installing the official Realtek drivers for the board hilariously breaks my sound completely so I'm using generic audio drivers instead.

I might just go snes, prefer the controller layout.