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#1  Edited By ArmaziLLa

Alright I'm definitely borrowing this topic almost straight from where I heard it in the ListenUp podcast, but nevertheless I thought it was a great topic of discussion to introduce here as well.

So, the basic question is...when was the last time that music in a game REALLY resonated emotionally for you? Where down the line you would instantly be able to recognize the song as being from that game, or that when you think back on a game the music is something you really identified with. Also, as a follow up to those questions, how do you think the role of music in games has evolved (or devolved as your opinion may be) in your eyes?

Personally for me, that last time I can really personally say that I loved or felt that music in a game was an essential part of the experience was Mass Effect. The two parts in that game that really stand out for me are:

1. Game Introduction - just the epic feel that you got when you first put that game into your Xbox and loaded it up is probably the best that comes to memory (RIGHT behind this being the Halo music, ESPECIALLY the Halo2 opening theme just giving me shivers when I first played it OMG I remember being so giddy as soon as the guitar kicked in!!!).
2.End of the Game[SPOILER ALERT: Link actually shows the ending 10mins of Mass Effect] - the scene right at the end of the game, actually the entire sequence where you see your ship flying and then the teams are searching through the rubble and you think your character is dead...the way the score builds up to the epicness of when you see your guy walk out for me, I remember that part evoking a "YES!" from me...and I believe I owe that to the way the music was used there. Also, probably the BEST fade out that evoked an amazing feeling for me was the fade out and the song that played into and throughout the credits.

The next, and last, game that I will mention here is a game where I feel the music is as much of an integral part of what made the game great as any other aspect of it is Braid. I don't think I would have enjoyed that game as thoroughly as I did without the score that went along with it....the ambiance that the music set for each level was amazing and well, I just don't think there's much else to be said about that.

The next point I'll touch on here is how I feel that for me I don't find AS MANY games that have music that really defines it anymore...too many games are throwing in the generic licensed soundtrack and mish-mash of music that well, I really don't care about. My personal opinion on this that I feel epitomizes my point is Burnout Paradise or the Tony Hawk games in their day. Now, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Criterion and how they've masterfully handled the game since it's release even though I personally felt that it fell completely flat for me to the point that I dropped it (and have only gone back once or twice) a few days after first playing it. However, I digress from me point, which is how the music in that game for me is completely throwaway. After driving around listening to "Paradise City" by Guns N' Roses once or twice I was done with the music...it had no bearing on how I felt during the game...granted the game has absolutely no story and therefore for me, no way of attaching any music to anything in the game...yet I feel that too many games just throw in the music and forget about it...OR opt to allow for custom soundtracks so they don't put as much into the music.

I suppose that maybe I expect a game's soundtrack to be too much like a movie, and that is another point to argue: should that be the case? In a good movie, you don't NOTICE the score so much as FEEL it...watch a movie like War with Jet Li and Jason Statham for example -- a movie that has great potential with action and whatnot but for me fell SO flat it wasn't even funny just because of the complete and utter lack of a good score. A good movie, and subsequently a good game (one that tells a story or has a narrative at least) will really draw you in with the music without you knowing it and really punctuating the emotional points of the story in that way...and I feel that Mass Effect (and to a lesser extent Halo) did this masterfully.

My final point that I will mention is the progression of music in games to the point that it's at now from the old NES, SNES, Genesis, PS1, N64 era games that had music that would be instantly recognized as coming from a specific game. A few games that instantly come to mind for me are many of the Super Mario games or the Zelda games. Who doesn't remember the Super Mario World theme from the SNES? Or the Link to the Past music? How many games these days have music that people can REALLY peg back onto that game...can you really remember or instantly hum out the tune to any of the Mario Sunshine or Mario Galaxy music like you can for the originals? Or the Final Fantasy series...who doesn't know the Victory Fanfare from FF7 (which they subsequently used in many FF's from then on with a slightly different version)? Music in games these days just isn't as catchy...but that can perhaps be attributed to the fact that there is so much more going on in a game at any given point as opposed to the droning repetitiveness of the music in the mario levels...perhaps games have evolved to the point where the music can't be as one dimensional as it used to be? I can't decide if I'm happy about that or not. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing to where looking back on those things now is such a fun thing to do whereas at the time I could've cared less. I like to think it's more of the former rather than the latter however.

Anyway, take from this what you will, but I look forward to reading anyone's thoughts and feelings on the topic. And, to save anyone the time, yes I know a few of my points may have been lifted straight from the ListenUp discussion, but I felt that they were very good points and incredibly valid so I included them in my argument. Also, bravo to those of you that read this novel of a forum post =)

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#2  Edited By ArmaziLLa

Well I saw a thread with some hate on XBLA games, but I'm personally looking for some more GOOD ones to download so share your top 3!

Here's my top 3:
1.Castle Crashers  (1200 pts)- amazingly fun classic sidescroller with a twist...awesome art style and overall great game.
2. Braid (1200 pts)- another sweet sidescroller with classic platforming elements...and OMG frustrating. I personally loved the game but ended up using a guide just to get through it as I wanted to finish the story...even then I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay. I still have to go back and get that damn speed run achievement for the 'S' rank on Giant Bomb though...
3. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (1200 pts ??)- Ok ok I know it's not even out yet, and it has a chance of completely letting me down HOWEVER I'm still pumped for such a classic....sue me if you must.

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#3  Edited By ArmaziLLa

Honestly I've tried that a while back with WMP and the streaming itself was mediocre at best...it gets choppy and the video quality is not good at all. However, I have found that streaming through the Windows Media Centre if you have it installed on your PC is extremely nice even if it takes a few minutes to load the menus. I never notice a loss in quality for my videos or even any skipping so long as you have a decent router in your house to set up your network.

Just open WMC on your 360 and it'll give you a code to put on your PC. Open WMC on your PC and it should say that it found a Windows Media Extender (360) and walk you through the setup, then all you have to do is add the folders you want on WMC on your 360 and you're good to go.

Good luck and happy streaming.

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#4  Edited By ArmaziLLa

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I'm usually playing whatever I'm currently hooked on, so it's hard to say anything specifically...always lookin for more friends though!

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#5  Edited By ArmaziLLa

I listen to quite a few gaming podcasts, the Bombcast being my favourite of them all...and I also have ListenUp on my roster as well. I usually like most of the crew, Garnett included, as well as the british dude (his name completely escapes me at the moment...would that be John?) and there have been times where I was even annoyed with Garnett namely when he goes on and on about a point I completely disagree with, but that can be said about anyone and I digress.

As far as Sharkey's guest appearance goes, I didn't mind his views but by the time the podcast was over even I was shaking my head wondering "WTF is with this guy and the profanity?!" I'm no prude, as I swear often enough myself and even like the occasional cuss word thrown in here and there, but if I never hear that guy on any other podcast I listen to I will be very pleased...in fact I'd almost be tempted to turn the podcast off if I even heard his name on one after listening to him last week...which is surprising of me...but oh well, that's my two-cents.

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#6  Edited By ArmaziLLa
ShaggyChu said:
"But what were they? Small changes (like general information or new pages), or full articles? I have two full articles and a smaller article update on 4 days right now. But I made four new locations for a game yesterday and they went through 7 hours ago. This really is confusing."
Well I think it should be kind of obvious why the larger and longer submissions take longer to get approved...they are the ones that take longer to read and check over for various things such as the aforementioned plagairism, spelling and grammar, etc...whereas the smaller submissions might only take a cursory glance to make sure everything is in keeping....I know I have even lots of little ones that have been in que for quite a while as well as some images, but Im not sweating it too much...when they get to it they get to it and thats that...if I happen to miss out on a new page because mine has been sitting in que and someone elses gets added, thats just how it goes its definetely not the end of the world...I for one am happy with how things are going and for the sheer amount of things the few mods have to go through I think this site is coming along extremely well...I just wish I had more time to spend writing full-length articles and what-not haha
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#7  Edited By ArmaziLLa

I've had things that I submitted approved after only a few minutes, and I have things in my que that I added a day or two ago that haven't been approved yet either...inlcuding all of the images...either way, the site is new and I can't even imagine the number of submissions being made on a daily basis...so I'm just kinda hoping for it to go through sooner or later.

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#8  Edited By ArmaziLLa

The title says it all...if you haven't heard of em you need to go take a listen ;)

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#9  Edited By ArmaziLLa

Premise:

I just figured I'd start a thread here for people to try to possibly find others with similar interests that would be interested in collaborating on specific articles/pages together.

For example, I myself am an avid Blizzard fan as I know many people are, and I have quite a few pages I would like to see fleshed out. The work load to do what I would like would be quite daunting if I were to do it on my own so my thoughts were something along these lines:
  • I, or another person, write an initial article for a page (either the full thing or half) and then submit it to the site.
  • My partner(s) will use what I have then posted to continue the article (if the post was half) and proof-read what I wrote...this person would then be able to make any corrections to grammar or spelling, etc...as well as have the job of adding images.

That is just a very broad outline and obviously the roles of who does what could be altered any way you would like. Anyhow, use this thread to post what you want to work on and ask to see if anyone else is interested in helping! I hope everyone is enjoying this one-of-a-kind website as much as I am and I look forward to reading everything you all work on!

Personal Collabs Wanted:

  • Right now, basically anything Blizzard related as that is the company/franchises I am MOST familiar with.

Contact Me: If interested, please add me as a friend via the Giant Bomb network and send me a PM detailing what you would like to collaborate with me on and what your desired role/plan of attack may be.
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#10  Edited By ArmaziLLa
MacGyver said:
"lost vikings MMO
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Seconded...it's coming...the Vikings are gonna take the world by storm mark my words