AxiomaticParasite

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking). PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer. So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

I don''t see the problem he got a tipoff from a user, researched the story and got in touch with MS to see what they had to say about said issue, Pretty basic "Journalism" to me, more than most sites do these days.

Go back and actually read my criticisms.

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking). PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer. So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

@GaZZuM said:

Any criticism levelled upon Patrick for writing an article with the express intention of making it so you don't get exploited by a bug that could cost you money, is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks Patrick, these trolls will look for any excuse.

Here's a funny post from someone who didn't actually read any of the criticism. The point is that he's not doing enough to point out the potential loss of money (It's not mentioned in the article header).

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking). PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer. So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking). PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer. So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

"People are losing money due to a Microsoft error? I'd better not mention potential loss of money in the main article header or description or else people might actually be aware of what's going on."

- Patrick Klepek journalism.