Don't assume by endgame they mean that molten core and blackwing lair aren't done. There's no such thing in Guild Wars 2.
This kind of upsets me about high level Guild Wars 2 play. I hope they start adding stuff like that for those who want to participate.
Sorry to break it to you mate, but I very much doubt they will. They've said it over and over again that this isn't their idea of GW2. There are quite a few games out there which provide the "classical" mmo-endgame experience for those looking for it - this isn't one of them.
Then what do you do when you hit max level because regardless of how long you take to reach it it is always the level you spend the most time at.
You do realize you're agreeing with the out-of-touch old redneck in this situation right? Did you even watch this episode?
@Jrad said:
@Meowshi said:
@Jrad said:
I don't know what I expected, entering this thread. When people talk about Him and gifts from God and Holy Spirits does it sound like a cult to anyone else, or is that just me?
Well, those are common religious ideas so I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Cultism is usually described as something that is particularly unusual or aberrant, and that's not really the case here.
It's probably because I grew up completely without religion — most religious things come across as bizarre and odd. The ritualistic parts especially, like clasping your hands in prayer or drawing a cross, and when people start capitalizing personal pronouns for no reason and venerating the "Holy Spirit" (which sounds like something out of a bad Final Fantasy game, or Native American mythology) I can't help but raise an eyebrow in skepticism. I don't think I'll ever really understand religion, which is a shame; it seems to work quite well for most people.
I gathered as much. I suppose when I use the word "cult", I'm thinking of UFOs, poisoned kool-aid, and body thetans; rather than religion in general.
Did you watch the episode? because the ending clearly points out Hanks overall opinion on the matter. Also the fact that you're calling him an old red neck clearly means you don't actually watch the show.
Yeah, Hank's overall opinion was that long hair and tattoos and other such "rebellious" things had no place in Christianity. It was overly-traditional nonsense, and that's what you're agreeing with. Congratulations.
No its wasn't. I find it weird that you have never seen the episode but that's what you chose to base your insult on.
@blueduck: I always said (not in this thread) that I make an exception for purely (!) cosmetic F2P models since those have nothing whatsoever to do with gameplay mechanics. But these approaches are exceptions. Not even TF2's business model is of purely cosmetic nature (at least I was told that you can buy weapons that you otherwise would have to find). You may correct me on that last point.
OK well no where in that news release did it say anything about being able to buy an advantage of any sort. I have a feeling that they're using this free game to push origin like Valve is using dota 2 to push steam.
Sadly I don't trust the free2play business modell - I believe gamedesign suffers in order to cater to it
Right on the money! Pun intended.
I refuse to play a game whose game design revolves around a "business model".
Now you miss out on Pac-Man. And The Legend of Zelda. They both rely on business models.
Dude, I'm obviously not talking about full price games since their game design is not impacted by the pay-once purchase decision... other than them having to be great games that are worth the price. But their actual gameplay mechanics are not structured around further nickel-and-diming the player.
And yes, I missed out on arcade gaming, if you mean that by referring to Pac-Man. And I'm glad I did.
No, their gameplay mechanics aren't based around nickel and diming them, they're based on Sixty Dollaring them. You're not talking about method, you're talking about value, and value requires specifics. Comparing all F2P games by some games with bad gameplay is saying that all retail games are ripoffs because of Homefront.
Here's the difference: full price games don't have to directly incorporate monetization strategies into their game mechanics.
In a full-price game, the gameplay mechanics are designed towards the goal of making a great game.
In a F2P game, the gameplay mechanics are designed to make the player buy stuff.
No. I played 30 hours of Super Monday Night Combat, and that's not true whatsoever. You're just being unreasonable and ignorantly judging an entire field of games because it's either than judging games on their merits. Under your scenario, all arcade games core gameplay mechanics are about getting more quarters. Pac-Man is about avoiding ghosts and eating pellets. Donkey Kong is about climbing ladders and jumping barrels. SMNC is about shooting dudes and spawning bots. LOTRO is about clicking dudes and pressing 1. Trying to divorce the gameplay because of the business model (the VALUE of the game) is nonsense.
1. F2P games HAVE to incorporate incentives to buy stuff into their game mechanics to a certain degree. It's balancing act, and some do it better than others. I, however, want ZERO influence of this kind impacting the actual game design. I want designers to worry only about how to make the game better and not about how to suck as much money out of the players pockets without completely driving them off.
2. And yes, you're right. Arcade games have always been about nickel-and-diming the player.
3. Most importantly, I want to immerse myself into games and say goodbye to the real world for a few hours. That's not possible when the game constantly reminds me of further purchase options. For this reason I'm avoiding certain full price games as well, btw. Diablo 3, for instance.
Here I can destroy your whole argument with one example. Dota 2.
You do realize you're agreeing with the out-of-touch old redneck in this situation right? Did you even watch this episode?
@Jrad said:
@Meowshi said:
@Jrad said:
I don't know what I expected, entering this thread. When people talk about Him and gifts from God and Holy Spirits does it sound like a cult to anyone else, or is that just me?
Well, those are common religious ideas so I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Cultism is usually described as something that is particularly unusual or aberrant, and that's not really the case here.
It's probably because I grew up completely without religion — most religious things come across as bizarre and odd. The ritualistic parts especially, like clasping your hands in prayer or drawing a cross, and when people start capitalizing personal pronouns for no reason and venerating the "Holy Spirit" (which sounds like something out of a bad Final Fantasy game, or Native American mythology) I can't help but raise an eyebrow in skepticism. I don't think I'll ever really understand religion, which is a shame; it seems to work quite well for most people.
I gathered as much. I suppose when I use the word "cult", I'm thinking of UFOs, poisoned kool-aid, and body thetans; rather than religion in general.
Did you watch the episode? because the ending clearly points out Hanks overall opinion on the matter. Also the fact that you're calling him an old red neck clearly means you don't actually watch the show.
@Sweep: He should just play skeleton king then. That's the hero I learned on. Tide is a bad choice because he's support, and he's amazing when played as support, but if you try to play him as anything else or played by someone who doesn't know the game he's down right awful.
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