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#1 Edited by Bojangle (108 posts) -

@rvone said:

@amafi said:

@rvone said:

Yes, this was in Patrick's article as well, but did you read the actual wording instead of the headline? He says "Yes, the deal has a duration. I didn't buy it. I don't own the franchise." What does that even mean?

In other stories we see the same narrative in which Microsoft keeps distinguishing between the current game and the franchise. Given the fact that they're being this opaque still means that it can go either way: (1) this game will make its way to PC eventually, or (2) the sequel to Rise of the Tomb Raider hasn't been secured by Microsoft yet (because the "don't own the franchise") meaning they just aren't in the position to make claims regarding that game.

And to the people pointing out Mass Effect, yes, Microsoft published that game but it took 5 years for it to appear on PS3 which was the result of EA buying BioWare instead of Microsoft wanting to publish it on PS3.

I feel like I'm going insane whenever I read anything about this whole story.

The original crystal dynamics statement very clearly said it was not a timed exclusive, and the follow-up statement said absolutely NOTHING except "we don't own the tomb raider franchise for eternity", it certainly didn't say it's a timed deal.

Yet every fucking thing I've seen online before I saw your post has been parroting the same shit. I know my understanding of english isn't perfect, but I'm pretty sure it's not dire enough that I'm the one in the wrong here. It might be exclusive, but no statement released about the deal has said it is.

I'm not insane, right?

No, I don't think you're going insane, but if you are, I'm probably also insane. It's infuriating to read all these outlets label it as a 'timed exclusive' while the underlying statements by Microsoft are obtuse as fuck. If I recall correctly, in this week's Bombcast, Tomb Raider again was mentioned in the context of timed exclusives. It's really weird.

Just to throw my lot in here. This news popping up in several outlets the past couple of days has been bothering me. There's literally nothing here to suggest the game has switched from a timed exclusive to a full blown exclusive.

The FAQ which Crystal Dynamics had to post after the initial announcement (because it was so unclear as to what the deal actually meant) says this:

  1. What does exclusive to Xbox mean?
    It means that Rise of the Tomb Raider is coming Holiday 2015 exclusively on Xbox One and Xbox 360.
  2. Does the exclusive to Xbox have a duration? Is it timed? How long is the duration? Can we expect a PlayStation 4 or PC release in the future?
    Yes, our deal with Microsoft has a duration. We aren’t discussing details of the deal, and are focused on delivering a great game on Xbox One and Xbox 360.

    So yes, the game IS a timed exclusive, my guess is for a year, so expect the game on other formats by Holiday 2016. On top of that, if the game had became an actual Xbox exclusive, Microsoft would be shouting about it from the rooftops.
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#2 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

@sirfork said:

It's good that they are being honest about all of this and the free game choice is good compensation. Hoping they learn from this and can fix this game and move on with better games in the future.

Glass half full kinda guy, huh?

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#3 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

@rethla: I was referring to the wording used in the press release. Such as "unexpected technical issues" which is just a flat out lie as they were fully aware of the state the game was in at launch.

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#4 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

Or maybe, developers/publishers can just stop releasing games that aren't bloody ready?

The people that seem 'happy' for this are in the exactposition big publishers like Ubisoft want you to be in, because they know they can absolutely take massive liberties with them and then when people kick up enough of a fuss, they can just fix it by offering a free game, a little bit of PR spin and hey, Ubisoft are legends for offering free games! Ubisoft are so great!

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#5 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

That press release is a masterclass in PR spin too. Some of the shit they spout. "Unexpected technical issues", yep, because you had no idea at all about the terrible state you were releasing a full priced video game at.

It's great they're offering early adopters a free game, but it's also kinda frustrating how places are just rehashing the terrible press release and just going "FREE GAMES!", like Ubisoft are great again.

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#6 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

And like that, the technical shitfest that Unity launched in is forgotten.

See you all next year!

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#7 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

Holy shitting christ, I've never seen a more obvious marketing post. Also, games > curing cancer.


  • · A new generation of games with power from the cloud: Because every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection, developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you’re not playing. I like how Microsoft states that “every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection”. They are talking about the 48 million gamers on Xbox Live, their core customers. And though it was great that the PS3 tried using the cloud to cure cancer with Folding@home, but I am much more excited to see what the cloud can do for my games!

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#8 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

@supermonkey122: Oh shit, I forgot you HAD to play a game as soon as it was released. Sorry. :(

But yeah, I'm (sadly) playing catch up with the series. Sorry if I confused anyone with my post.

Totally agree, Super Mario World looks great. ;)

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#9 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

This series has had some incredible scenes so far. Here's a few of my favourite screen captures from Episode 2. There's nothing too spoiler-ish here. Click the image for full size.

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#10 Posted by Bojangle (108 posts) -

@Kidavenger: They updated the FAQ at the bottom of the page recently.

Will making GODUS for mobile platforms mean it will be dumbed down?
No absolutely not. We are gamers at 22cans, we love depth as much as we love innovation. We will be playing the game with you during our Alpha and Beta stages, so if anyone gives us feedback we will look at that. But we're not making a dumbed down game. The PC version will be hands down the most beautiful!!