" But it does exist. The WORD wizards and witches exist as much as any other word in a dictionary exists. "
And which dictionary are you pulling your definition from? This site cites definitions from Random House Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Online Etymology Dictionary without mentioning that it should be male. WordNet, YourDictionary, and Wiktionary also do not mention gender. "
Not from any dictionary. Words are referenced in dictionaries, but I hope you don't think their existence is directly connected or dependent on a dictionary or any other so-called authority. Don't you see that you just listed 2-3 sources and each one had a slightly different meaning? Your own sources can't even agree to what the proper definition of a witch and wizard is, what authority do they carry? So of what value would it be if I sourced yet another opinionated so called authority? We'd still be no better off then we were before.
"It's horrible decisions like this that have led me to the conclusion that Blizzard has no idea what they're doing and are just riding the diablo series carcass's coat-tails by introducing the most ridiculous ideas "
Out of all the things that could make you dislike a developer whether they name their female mage class conventionally or not is what did it for you? "
I dunno what you just asked. But you have to remember that when D3 comes out, the time span between it and the previous game will have been more then 10 years. I'm not impressed. The two things that struck me was the insane idea of a female wizard and the giant boss battles. My thoughts about the giant boss battles are analogous to those fighting games with special attacks that fill up the entire screen which we can all hopefully agree do not make a good game and are condiments at best (see Capcom vs. Tatsunoku). The series should have made the jump to 3d. I don't like Blizzard any more because they are definitely milkin their series and they aren't the same company they were back before 2000. The only difference between them and Namco is that Blizzard releases their re-hashes + 10 years and that they actually care about their image.
"seems like a pretty pointless argument. games that try to be too realistic end up being no fun at all, i mean if that's what your looking for, realism, join the marines. Otherwise enjoy the product for what it is a game no more no less. "
Exactly. Far Cry 2 is a good example i.e. malaria and the magic wrench and the magic emergency medical equipment. Better to just be a regenerative superhuman rambo like in just about every single other shooter. With the added realism the game just becomes ridiculously stupid.
@Kazona: But it does exist. The WORD wizards and witches exist as much as any other word in a dictionary exists. Words help us categorize abstract ideas. Alike, if someone practices magic and is a female, you call that person a witch; if a male, a wizard.
If you don't think wizards and witches exist, then you must not also think other words that have a specific appropriate definition exist also. How do you know entities that are ABSTRACT are not real?
@extremeradical: Uh, just no. Throughout history women have always been witches and men have been wizards. For example, Merlin was a wizard and Mim was a witch. And it's not chauvinistic. It's just a fact you need to accept. I don't understand why everyone wants to see things otherwise then how they actually are in order to be politically correct. Don't you see that everything just gets dumbed down?
@ahoodedfigure: Yes, but Witch and Wizard are each specifically attributed to males and females in order to differentiate between them. Males and females are different, and I guess, their use of magic is different from one another. In Demon's Souls, the Witch Yuria said that her magic is tied to her emotions which is the exact opposite of that of Sage Freke's magic (i.e. the wizard and yes he is a guy, arguably woman can't be sages, but I'll leave that discussion to another thread).
You can't escape who you are and calling a women a wizard is like calling a donkey a horse.
And you're wrong, this was probably a calculated political decision on the part of Blizzard. Blizzard wants everyone to play their game. Blizzard wants everyone to get to level 60 or w/e the new level cap in WoW is. Blizzard is feeding the universal lie that everyone can succeed with minimal effort and that wealth should be re-distributed and people can be whatever they want to be. I suppose it's only a matter of time before there will be no more distinction between anything and everything will be dumbed down.
@End_Boss: Aye, but a man will always be a man and a woman a woman you can't change it. What Blizzard is doing is ridiculous and it's feeding the mainstream illusion that 'anybody can be whatever you want to be' (no, you aren't, you are only whatever you think you are within your own head only) and 'everyone can succeed' and all these other politically correct nonsensical ideas.
@Driadon: That is because those other table-top games and what not are business ventures and so, are not concerned about the proper etymology concerning the proper use of words. That's my problem with Blizzard. Just because the magical universe is niche doesn't doesn't make it right to pass off a wizard as a female in order to make your game appealing and accessible to a female audience. Blizzard manipulating all of you.
@IzzyGraze: A sorceress isn't a wizard, only males can be wizards. That is why in D2 the sorceress was FEMALE. It would have been ridiculous if the sorceress had been male, so why is it ok for a wizard to be female? It's stupid. A male is a sorcerer and a female is a sorceress. A wizard is a male and a witch is a female.
@lebkin: Then D&D makes no sense either. Women can't be wizards it's psychically and physically impossible.
@Bones8677: This game isn't and SHOULD NOT be WoW. But your post and others has confirmed my fears that the Diablo series has become WoW now, but superficially structured around the Diablo mythos.
@AjayRaz: It's a huge deal. I don't want to play as an oxymoron.
WTF is Blizzard thinking???? Females who practice magic are called witches. It's impossible for a female to be a wizard, as much as its impossible for a woman to be a man, everyone knows this. Which leaves me to ask, why has this not been discussed anywhere else and why do I seem to be the only one that has a problem with this. It's horrible decisions like this that have led me to the conclusion that Blizzard has no idea what they're doing and are just riding the diablo series carcass's coat-tails by introducing the most ridiculous ideas; probably as a means to be politically correct. What do you think?
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