Seriously,  
 
Imagine this game, a first person rpg in the theme of The Elder Scrolls or Fallout 3 where you have a huge, open world city but with a cyberpunk setting.  There would be a main quest line that (like Oblivion or Fallout 3) is optional to see to the end.  Include different factions (Corporations, various gangs) that you can align yourself with for side quests and a whole bunch of other stuff to do if you want.  Allow the player to truly create their own character that can be a hacker, a melee fighter (stealth), a shooter, or a mix of the three.  Also allow a wide variety of cybernetic augmentations that could either be quest rewards or the result of a corporate raid that you can undertake. 
 
 So, basically, a Cyberpunk Oblivion.  That is the game I've been secretly hoping for for a long time now.   And unlike  Deux Ex: HR, I want a game that is RPG first and action second (like an Elder Scrolls game).  And for a really awesome bonus, make the whole thing a Shadowrun game.  (Yeah I know that will never happen, but if I'm wishing for something I might as well wish big)
 
 
Hell, this game idea practically writes itself.  
 
So, game industry... DO IT. 

Cyberpunk's got diminished stock these days; you're not going to see big companies take a huge gamble to develop a game they don't think most people will identify with. Sure, you've got Deus Ex: HR now, and some niche titles like EYE: Divine Cybermancy, but you're not going to see a $20 million dollar project throw caution to the wind and make a hard-core RPG that's not set in the post apocalypse or Middle Earth quite yet.

I'd say "like Shadowrun?", but I can't recommend that game.

@Getz said:

Cyberpunk's got diminished stock these days; you're not going to see big companies take a huge gamble to develop a game they don't think most people will identify with. Sure, you've got Deus Ex: HR now, and some niche titles like EYE: Divine Cybermancy, but you're not going to see a $20 million dollar project throw caution to the wind and make a hard-core RPG that's not set in the post apocalypse or Middle Earth quite yet.

Case in point:

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/ea-finally-stops-pretending-it-isnt-remaking-syndicate-announces-syndicate-remake/3652/

Yes, what the world needs is another sandbox "RPG" manchild playground.

@Captain_Felafel said:

@Getz said:

Cyberpunk's got diminished stock these days; you're not going to see big companies take a huge gamble to develop a game they don't think most people will identify with. Sure, you've got Deus Ex: HR now, and some niche titles like EYE: Divine Cybermancy, but you're not going to see a $20 million dollar project throw caution to the wind and make a hard-core RPG that's not set in the post apocalypse or Middle Earth quite yet.

Case in point:

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/ea-finally-stops-pretending-it-isnt-remaking-syndicate-announces-syndicate-remake/3652/

I don't know if that was supposed to be a sarcastic counter-point or not, but for the record that's an FPS

@Getz said:

@Captain_Felafel said:

@Getz said:

Cyberpunk's got diminished stock these days; you're not going to see big companies take a huge gamble to develop a game they don't think most people will identify with. Sure, you've got Deus Ex: HR now, and some niche titles like EYE: Divine Cybermancy, but you're not going to see a $20 million dollar project throw caution to the wind and make a hard-core RPG that's not set in the post apocalypse or Middle Earth quite yet.

Case in point:

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/ea-finally-stops-pretending-it-isnt-remaking-syndicate-announces-syndicate-remake/3652/

I don't know if that was supposed to be a sarcastic counter-point or not, but for the record that's an FPS

Haha, sorry, it kind of came off that way didn't it? No, what I was saying by that is basically, yes, a huge publisher isn't going to put out an awesome, Cyberpunk RPG, instead, they'll shoehorn that aesthetic into a familiar package, in this case, a first-person shooter. Not that that's a bad thing, Starbreeze has proven they can make a hell of a shooter, but it's definitely not the most original thing to come out of the 'old-games getting revived' bin.

I hope there will be at some point a decent Shadowrun RPG ... the mix of fantasy and cyberpunk that universe has is amazing.

I'd check it out.

@TekZero: You sound more like you're talking about Fallout: New Vegas than either Fallout 3 or Oblivion and I'd be much more excited about a project like that. Cause frankly, for as much as Oblivion did right, the things it did wrong were: 1) 0 character development. Your character was a silent, blank slate and none of the quests you did felt like they impacted the world in the slightest and 2) the main plot thread was completely boilerplate and dull. So much so that an NPC is the one who actually defeats the final boss. And 3) All the problems of 1 basically fall on every other NPC. No one develops as a character, the main allure of an Oblivion is exploring the world, and it's a POTENT lure, but cyberpunk games are so rare that I'd setting alone isn't going to be enough.

The Shadowrun IP belongs to who? They have to do how many game releases (including DLC, re-prints) every N years to keep it and not break contract? That's where the problem lies. Love the Genesis SR, was okay with the SNES one, with we'd get something like that again. HR showed that games that require the player to use his or her brain to often impossible degrees can sell well these days, and we were surprised..

Yeah, I added in the Shadowrun name there at the end, but I'd take a simple William Gibson-ish cyberpunk city.  
 
The Shadowrun thing is a pipe dream and I know it.  
 
@undeadpool  I never played New Vegas, but that does sound much better than the vanilla Fallout 3 or Oblivion. 
 
I'd see a studio like Obsidian make this game if it wasn't for their buggy game release history. 

i would kill for a Shadowrun RPG, damn now u got me all reminiscing about the game on the genesis.

@Video_Game_King: I want the Prey 2 folks to make a really RPG heavy Shadowrun game. Prey 2 seems like it could be a cool practice run for getting the action down, and then they could take on the awesome Shadowrun universe and add a metric fuck ton of RPG elements.

Think back to the great history of video games.  How many cyberpunk RPGs are there?  Versus how many Fantasy RPGs there are. 
 
It's an untapped genre that, if done properly, could be a big money maker. 

So you want E.Y.E.?

@SomeJerk: Microsoft acquired Fasa Studio probably 15 years ago. Most of their products since the release of the Xbox have been extremely shallow, and I believe the studio has been shut down since the 360 Shadowrun debacle. I wouldn't hold out hope for new video games based on any Fasa properties, but at least most of their games are still active in table-top and RPG form.

@ChaosDent said:

@SomeJerk: Microsoft acquired Fasa Studio probably 15 years ago. Most of their products since the release of the Xbox have been extremely shallow, and I believe the studio has been shut down since the 360 Shadowrun debacle. I wouldn't hold out hope for new video games based on any Fasa properties, but at least most of their games are still active in table-top and RPG form.

Thanks, and aww man :(

Gotta continue the never ending search for a pen & paper RPG group nearby that is into sci-fi/cyberpunk and not just the typical D&D and whatever White Wolf just crapped out.

@ChaosDent said:

@SomeJerk: Microsoft acquired Fasa Studio probably 15 years ago. Most of their products since the release of the Xbox have been extremely shallow, and I believe the studio has been shut down since the 360 Shadowrun debacle. I wouldn't hold out hope for new video games based on any Fasa properties, but at least most of their games are still active in table-top and RPG form.

Thanks, and aww man :(

Gotta continue the never ending search for a pen & paper RPG group nearby that is into sci-fi/cyberpunk and not just the typical D&D and whatever White Wolf just crapped out.

Fucking go get your d6s and we'll play Shadowrun over Giant Bomb. I call decker.

@Captain_Felafel: Looks like we're on the same page :)

Yes, please.

I think Prey 2 is the closest we'll get to that for a while.

Sure, it's more sci-fi than cyberpunk, but it's an open world FPS set in the future with a plot, characters, tactical combat and whatnot.

I'm actually more excited for this than Skyrim.

@CornishRocker said:

I think Prey 2 is the closest we'll get to that for a while.

Sure, it's more sci-fi than cyberpunk, but it's an open world FPS set in the future with a plot, characters, tactical combat and whatnot.

I'm actually more excited for this than Skyrim.

That sounds interesting. I haven't given Prey 2 any thought at all, but now I might check it out.

there needs to be a warhammer 40k RPG where you play as a Inquisitor, fact

Just an FYI, while Microsoft may still own the IPs for FASA's old stuff, the rights to use them have been licensed back to Jordan Weisman, who was one of the main brains behind FASA's stuff. Supposedly, he is working on a Mechwarrior relaunch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MechWarrior_(reboot)

Who knows. If that does well, maybe he'll reboot Shadowrun and Crimson Skies, as well.

Deus Ex Human Revolution is pretty good.

Yes, please.

Shadowrun for the SNES was one of my favorite games for that system. I'm not sure if the Fallout/Elderscrolls format would be a perfect fit though. The game would have to capture the sense of isolation one gets in huge crowded cities. Being able to run up and talk to everyone as if you were in a small village mitigates that.

Also, the SNES Shadowrun game, despite taking place in the future, involved far more pavement pounding detective work to collect clues than would be required even now considering the amount of data and social interaction available online. Of course an action RPG where the player does nothing but access search engines and social media and talk on his or her cell phones wouldn't be much fun. The story would have to have some good, non-contrived reasons for forcing the player to interact with the world.

At the end of Shadowrun (I believe during the credits) Drake claimed that he'd see Jake (the player) again in Shadowrun 2. It's high time that reunion took place.

Well truth is "Cyberpunk" market is not that big of a Market, Check out Eye Divine Cybermancy or Hard Reset on Steam store, people is bussy playing CS or Team fortres.

Yeah I agree, I would love to see a really good Cyber-Punk RPG, its one of my favorite settings. But then again I also think medieval and post-apocalyptic are some of my favorite RPGs..... in short I love RPGs.

@DonPixel said:

Well truth is "Cyberpunk" market is not that big of a Market, Check out Eye Divine Cybermancy or Hard Reset on Steam store, people is bussy playing CS or Team fortres.

come on man, hard reset and E.Y.E. were both single player games, TF and CS are MP games. you can't compare them at all

@Meowayne: You know, I saw your post in WannabePhD's thread on a new genre of video game, and I while I agree with you and some other people in that thread that it would be nice to see more games focus on creating stronger emotional attachments through more serious themes and stronger atmospheres, that's no reason to take a shit on the mere thought of a sandbox-style game or any other kind. It's not like books or movies are inundated with heartfelt works of art, and they both have been around far longer than video games.

Also, you yourself came up with sizeable list of games that you considered more mature or intelligent, and at least three of the games you mentioned received acclaim and sold well. So lighten up and stop belittling everyone who can appreciate the fact that games allow people to experience things differently than does any other medium.

after playing through LA Noire, I thought that someone could do a kick ass blade runner game in a similar fashion.

@Laketown said:

@DonPixel said:

Well truth is "Cyberpunk" market is not that big of a Market, Check out Eye Divine Cybermancy or Hard Reset on Steam store, people is bussy playing CS or Team fortres.

come on man, hard reset and E.Y.E. were both single player games, TF and CS are MP games. you can't compare them at all

Mmm yeah I mean, I'm not even going with the "OMG no one play good games anymore because they only care about CoD" line - I'm just saying there is CyberPunk stuff out there, It doesn't seems to be to popular thou, So I doesn't comes as a surprise to me Publishers aren't crazy about investing some Millions in a High budget Cyberpunk niche game.

Just remember Enslaved flop last year, it was a fine Cyberpunk tittle that sold like 3 copies.

And remeber always remember this is a "enthusiast site" , We might have the perception this stuff is indeed popular when is not.

@TekZero: Depends on how you define RPG. I mean in EYE youre getting xp, leveling up, spending points in different attribute skills, modifying your characters abilites (dare I say it a skill tree?) etc. Its just its wrapped in a almost incomprehensible UI and tutorial system.

What up yall. I was reading everynes posts and wanted toreassureyou that the idea of cyberpunk games is still very popular. It's the mixtureof fantasy elements that really throw people off. As a kid the shadowrun game was cool but all of my friends asked why is there magic? Why are there elves? They liked the ORks and trolls though mutants are aceptable elves are not.

I was reading through the cyberpunk 2020 rulebook for the first time ever and I think the way that netrunner game turned out was the best most attrative way to incorporate fantasy elements into the game. Monsters from DnD can be made to look like mutants and the like.

I want ot make an aceptable Cyberpunk RPG (Pen and Paper to begin) and am willing to take all suggestions.

Deus Ex Human Revolution is a very good game set in a cyberpunk world, where you play a hacker/stealth and combat expert without elves.

No Mutants though and the weapons are very mundane and only equippable to average status. Some good non lethal weapons though.

Any input would be appreciated.

You have sold me on "cyberpunk could be a cool setting for a video game."

You have definitely not sold me on "there NEEDS to be" even a good cyberpunk RPG. Right now, what does this add to the medium? A resurgence in cyberpunk? Is cyberpunk still actually societally relevant (not popular, but relevant?) Isn't the more interesting cyberthreat related to information these days? And why an RPG? Because you craft your own character? Unless the game is the first in the "create-your-own-character" genre that doesn't just reward "pick good or bad at start" system, we're only talking mechanics, and I don't think hacking will ever actually be fun in and of itself in a videogame.

Deus Ex is a cyberpunk RPG and many consider it to be the best game they've ever played. I'm not sure if being open world would really add more than it would detract.

Bioshock was a steampunk RPG-lite FPS that has done very well financially and critically, and Bioshock Infinite has a ton of hype behind it. I don't think Steampunk had a lot of love before that game came out.

Cyberpunk might have a small fanbase, but trust me, you bring out a kickass amazing game, people will get into it.

@TekZero: Not to derail this, but FF7 is pretty cyberpunk in Midgar