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Why people really play games.

Accomplishment. 
  
When looked at video games simplistically, they are all puzzles.  You push this button to solve this problem, then move on to the next one.  The little feeling of accomplishment comes with every successful problem solved.     
Think of it this way, in FPS's you push the trigger to shoot someone then move on to the next enemy to shoot while avoiding getting shot yourself.  In racing games, you steer your car around the track until you finish it, only to do it again with the next race.  In fighting games, you push the attack button to defeat your opponent while trying not to get defeated yourself.  In RPG's there are actually puzzles to be solved while progressing through the story with your chosen character.  In each case, you get a feeling of accomplishment.  In RPG's and other games, the sense of accomplishment is tied into a story which can get you emotionally attached to the character or your own created character.  Every battle is a puzzle to be solved, every quest is a series of puzzles, and every story is a series of quests.  (And the internet is a series of tubes).  
  
The bigger the challenge or difficulty, the bigger the feeling of accomplishment.  Getting to the top of a leaderboard, beating the Nurburgring in Forza, or fighting and winning a good match in MK9 or SSFIV are all great examples.  Personally, beating the challenge tower in MK9 (especially 251) was the last big accomplishment I had in gaming.   
  
 Accomplishment is addicting.  Once you feel it, you want to do it again.  Each kill in an FPS is a mini accomplishment; every match won in a fighting game; every level gained in an RPG.  It's also why achievement points are so popular.  It's just another way of giving people that feeling of accomplishment. 

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Accomplishment. 
  
When looked at video games simplistically, they are all puzzles.  You push this button to solve this problem, then move on to the next one.  The little feeling of accomplishment comes with every successful problem solved.     
Think of it this way, in FPS's you push the trigger to shoot someone then move on to the next enemy to shoot while avoiding getting shot yourself.  In racing games, you steer your car around the track until you finish it, only to do it again with the next race.  In fighting games, you push the attack button to defeat your opponent while trying not to get defeated yourself.  In RPG's there are actually puzzles to be solved while progressing through the story with your chosen character.  In each case, you get a feeling of accomplishment.  In RPG's and other games, the sense of accomplishment is tied into a story which can get you emotionally attached to the character or your own created character.  Every battle is a puzzle to be solved, every quest is a series of puzzles, and every story is a series of quests.  (And the internet is a series of tubes).  
  
The bigger the challenge or difficulty, the bigger the feeling of accomplishment.  Getting to the top of a leaderboard, beating the Nurburgring in Forza, or fighting and winning a good match in MK9 or SSFIV are all great examples.  Personally, beating the challenge tower in MK9 (especially 251) was the last big accomplishment I had in gaming.   
  
 Accomplishment is addicting.  Once you feel it, you want to do it again.  Each kill in an FPS is a mini accomplishment; every match won in a fighting game; every level gained in an RPG.  It's also why achievement points are so popular.  It's just another way of giving people that feeling of accomplishment. 

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Maybe it's more exciting than mundane real life. It's entertaining, challenging and fun.

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@HitmanAgent47 said:
Maybe it's more exciting than mundane real life. It's entertaining, challenging and fun.
This exactly. My life is boring as hell. In games you can go on grand adventures, become champion of the world, be a war hero. Sometimes even all at the same time 
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@HitmanAgent47:  
Agreed! There's definitely an element of Escapism in video games. I can be an alien-hunting space marine, the one honest police officer in a corrupt town, a genetically modified bad-ass, or sexy archeologist when I pop a game in. When I take the game out, it's back to reality, which is not nearly so bad-ass,  nor are there many aliens or rocket launchers. Still sexy though. 
   
In this day and age, most people have about 15 minute attention spans, developers are putting in more "little accomplishments" in games to keep our focus. In the 8-bit days, finishing the game was the accomplishment, in the 90s it was frags and kills, now in the 00's its achievements for pressing the start button, or beating a level only using a spork. 
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I'm gonna say a bit of both for me.  Escapism and entertainment are there, sure, but that sense of accomplishment is most certainly a driving force as well.  

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But still, the underlying accomplishment is always there.  Yes, escapism is a big factor which can't be denied.  But there are no games out there that have no purpose, no accomplishment in the end. 

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@TekZero:  
If it wasn't for the fact that you report your length to Girl, Noby Noby Boy would come pretty close to "no accomplishment."
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It's just entertainment.  I play games to be entertained.  The last thing I am doing while I am playing video games is accomplishing anything.   Go ahead and ask my girlfriend what I accomplished last Saturday...I guarantee you the answer is going to be "Nothing.  He sat on his ass and played video games all day".  I suppose I am accomplishing the task of being entertained, but then everything you do is an accomplishment to some degree or another.  Nah...you play video games to be entertained and have fun.  If you really feel like you are accomplishing something by playing video games, I think that just means it's time you go out and actually accomplish something.

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@DownbeatGorilla said:
@TekZero:  
If it wasn't for the fact that you report your length to Girl, Noby Noby Boy would come pretty close to "no accomplishment."
Actually that's an interesting thought.  Are there any games out there that has no accomplishment, just pure escapism?  
 
 
And if people are into games only for the escapism, why choose it over reading a book, or watching TV?
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Videogames are interactive, that's why we like it more than movies, books or t.v shows.

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There have been attempts to make other forms of media interactive :

  • Choose Your Own Adventure books for fiction
  • Interactive Fiction video games like the Infocom text adventures
  • I'd even say stage / screen experiences like Rock Horror Picture Show live events where the audience is expected to participate.
  • TV Shows like Push, NV where prizes and contests are run in conjunction with ARGs
  • Heck, American Idol and Dancing With the Stars are examples of Interactive TV that are for more popular (at least according to ratings) then video games.
But video games mix the escapism with the interactive better, from 14 year old boys who probably have better trigger finger reflexes than most army snipers, to suburban moms who spend a small fortune on Zynga games, to the obsessive compulsive strategy nut who can micro mange 600 actions per minute but loses track of what day of the week it is.  
 
Games appeal to wildly different groups for different reasons, for some people it's a quick diversion, or time killer, for others it's practically the only form of entertainment they take in, eschewing books, films and TV because the "old media" can't hold their attention. I don't know if we can come out and paint every gamer with the same broad brush, we all come to games for different reasons, and at the end of the day, we walk away with different satisfactions.
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@phish09 said:
It's just entertainment.  I play games to be entertained.  The last thing I am doing while I am playing video games is accomplishing anything.   Go ahead and ask my girlfriend what I accomplished last Saturday...I guarantee you the answer is going to be "Nothing.  He sat on his ass and played video games all day".  I suppose I am accomplishing the task of being entertained, but then everything you do is an accomplishment to some degree or another.  Nah...you play video games to be entertained and have fun.  If you really feel like you are accomplishing something by playing video games, I think that just means it's time you go out and actually accomplish something.
I tend to think this way as well. I don't get a sense of accomplishment from games. They are games, after all. I want to be entertained, and either I am or I'm not. I have no doubt that some play games to feel a sense of accomplishment, but that strikes me as a bit sad.
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@haggis said:
@phish09 said:
It's just entertainment.  I play games to be entertained.  The last thing I am doing while I am playing video games is accomplishing anything.   Go ahead and ask my girlfriend what I accomplished last Saturday...I guarantee you the answer is going to be "Nothing.  He sat on his ass and played video games all day".  I suppose I am accomplishing the task of being entertained, but then everything you do is an accomplishment to some degree or another.  Nah...you play video games to be entertained and have fun.  If you really feel like you are accomplishing something by playing video games, I think that just means it's time you go out and actually accomplish something.
I tend to think this way as well. I don't get a sense of accomplishment from games. They are games, after all. I want to be entertained, and either I am or I'm not. I have no doubt that some play games to feel a sense of accomplishment, but that strikes me as a bit sad.
It depends on the game. The In Memoriam series (Missing, Evidence etc..) or online ARGs (The Beast, I Love Bees etc...) offer far more satisfaction for solving their puzzles than pulling a trigger in Portal, or hitting X to decapitate someone. 
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@haggis: But you have to admit that there is some accomplishment in getting a high kill streak or S ranking a game? 
 
I'm not saying that the accomplishment in games are the same or better than the ones in real life.  Only that there is a feeling of accomplishment in every game and that is the underlying feeling driving us to play again (online or not), or finish the story. 
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@TekZero said:
@haggis: But you have to admit that there is some accomplishment in getting a high kill streak or S ranking a game?...
Not really. It's deceptive in games because even with achievement points and trophies, the things we do in games are rather common. I'm not sure what an uncommon level of skill would look like in most video games. It's not that there isn't such a thing, as I'm sure there is. But most of what we consider achievements aren't very special. So I've collected every feather in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. So have a lot of others. Achievements in games are designed to be ... achieved. Some may be more difficult than others, but I'm not sure I think of them as worthy of much praise. If people want to invest time and effort into them, fine. But the true value is in entertainment. There's no inherent value in what you're doing.
 
When I was a teenager, I spent an entire month trying to learn how to play Eric Johnson's song Cliffs of Dover on the guitar. When I finally succeeded, I felt a sense of accomplishment. And it helped me play other songs better (though, ironically, I can't beat that damned song on expert in Guitar Hero). What benefit does S-classing a game give you other than bragging rights? I'm not sure I know. I'm open to hearing suggestions.
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I was thinking earlier this week about how MMOs are often ONLY about accomplishment; that you pay these people a monthly fee (or whatever) to gift you with the chance to do many little activities or a few big ones, which end in, maybe, something you can point to and say that you did that. But they also excel in deferred or even interrupted accomplishment, where you DON'T get loot X and have to do the whole thing over again. Sucks to be you, thanks for your money, see you next payday.
 
Other games though...  while they definitely do have an accomplishment factor, even in MMOs that's not the only thing I get out of them.  I am, in a sense, cheating when I feel this way. What I get can't be measured by statistics.  My favorite moments in most games could certainly be categorized as accomplishments, but the joy was in the moment, not at the end. Like the frustrated justice lurking in the ethical gray areas Sunry trial, or the vistas in Manaan or Tatooine in KotOR (which I've been playing for the second time this past week or so). I guess you could say going outside of Anchorhead was an accomplishment, or turning my eyes to the sandy dunes under the twin suns was, but the tiny happiness I get seeing a virtual world that transports me a bit almost feels like an accomplishment of the game designers more than me. I think this distinction is important, since there's no guarantee one can even find such awe in a game, and they come quite often by surprise, sometimes even accidentally.

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That's one reason to play games. A major reason for me is to escape to another world because the world we live in is boring. And to have fun. Cause everybody loves to have fun.

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it's interacting with things, fun, there is a story to be told, life is boring. for those people, when was the last time you shot an AUG, ak74, and other automatic rifles, or when was the last time you got to drive a Ferrari. i know i will never be able to drive a Ferrari in my life.

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People play games for much the same reason people play sports.

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It's different depending on the person. Someone who just buys one game and nothing else all year is playing for the competition. I figure most play for escapism. Video games are more exciting than real life. Many forms of entertainment are for escapism, a distraction.

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@phish09: @phish09 said:
It's just entertainment.  I play games to be entertained.  The last thing I am doing while I am playing video games is accomplishing anything.   Go ahead and ask my girlfriend what I accomplished last Saturday...I guarantee you the answer is going to be "Nothing.  He sat on his ass and played video games all day".  I suppose I am accomplishing the task of being entertained, but then everything you do is an accomplishment to some degree or another.  Nah...you play video games to be entertained and have fun.  If you really feel like you are accomplishing something by playing video games, I think that just means it's time you go out and actually accomplish something.
 
The exact same here. I mostly play them for the entertainment value. I get nothing, nor accomplish anything if I see some sort of trophy pop up, or I complete the game. I play them because they are enjoyable and entertain me through the experience. Nothing more. If I get stuck and die a lot, so what? If I have a 0-200 Kill death ratio in a FPS? I don't even care. I don't care about online play much and I don't care where I rank on a video game leader board. I play for fun and enjoyment. I have absolutely no problem with saying to someone that it really doesn't accomplish anything, because in the end, it really doesn't.
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I play usually for the story and the expierience-a good game can be as engaging as a good book. Its a mix of excapism and accomplishment. 'excapishment?' 'accomplishism?'

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I was thinking this last night over a joint, why I love video games so much. I remembered back to my childhood, seeing Sonic for the first time at my neighbours house and begging my parents for a Master System. 
 
It wasn't accomplishment that captured me, it was something else.