Commando

@Mikemcn said:

@Bam_D_Leprechaun said:

who had him in their death list this year?

You make a death list?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

But yeah it's official. He's dead now.

@august said:

@Dagbiker said:

@baconbits33

@Claude said:

@baconbits33: I've been told things and seen things that I didn't act on. Sometimes you make decisions and you have to live with them.

So have I, but I as a human being try to do the right thing and accept my consequences, which he did and he earned a bit of respect from me for that. However I must say that it is inexcusable what he did, he fucked up, and he paid for his crime.

Doesn't mean I want him to rot, I'm sad that he has cancer, and he's nearing the end of his life, I do hope he isn't remembered for this scandal, it wouldn't be fit for him.

He didnt commit a crime

Depending on the extent of his knowledge and what actions he did or did not take (which I don't expect to come out fully until the trial) he very well may have committed a crime.

Nope. The Penn State police department came out and said he did everything he was legally supposed to do.

He completed his legal obligation, but maybe not his moral obligation.

@Animasta said:

@Commando: yes because I know when I see someone abusing young boys in the showers I go to the people above me

and not, you know, the police

Well then get mad at McQueary because he's the one that saw it and reported it to Paterno. Paterno never saw it.

Some of you people think Paterno abused children?

There's not a single report that says he ever laid a hand on a child.

Paterno dedicated his entire life to the betterment of young men.

To those of you that think it was Joe Paterno that abused those boys, I suggest you look up Jerry Sandusky.

McQuery witnessed Sandusky abusing a young child. McQuery told Paterno about it. Paterno then told his superiors(the University President and the Athletic Director).

He did what he was supposed to do. The only reason he's getting crap is that his superiors didn't do anything about it. So people think Joe Paterno should have told more people about it instead of just the two people he was legally required to tell.

@thechronodarkness said:

Well...Lets start schooling some children shall we?

If any of you all remember the 80s. The stocks weren't exactly doing so hot then. A HUGE oil problem, with people wondering if there would be enough to last us. Matter in fact, there was a depression in 1983. In some ways, worse than the one many years back. Then George bush took office, then came desert storm. Put us in even WORSE financial debt. Then came the great sexual fiend named Bill Clinton. Yes, it was with logic and some unusual ways, but the man actually got the national debt even. One of the few times America really had no real debt to its name. In a way, he fixed the country.

After the 2001 inauguration of George W Bush, there were rumors that if someone didn't replace him in office asap, that desert storm would come back to haunt him. Since his dad was a big lead of why american went into desert storm to begin with. That put america in a bad image in the minds of the east. Though it wasn't exactly iraq who caused it, september 11th came. Started 2 major wars, the stimulous checks. Put america in some major problems.

Obama came....And obama felt more like a stalemate. He hasn't exactly lifted the country up high and mighty like it was in the 90s, but he didn't make any bad changes either. OTHER than possibly some of the bailouts. Dodge/jeep/chrystler has been in financial trouble sinces the late 80s, and that corporation needs to die. I don't like gm at all, but where they put there money isn't as reckless. Have you seen a dodge or jeep commercial? The boring guy from the hardees comercials?

In short? Obama, but I wouldn't put him on a high and mighty chair either.

By "got the debt to even" I assume you mean he payed off the debt? No he didn't, not even close.

He did balance the budget by cutting the military. Of the 305,000 employees who he cut from the payroll, 286,000 of them were military.

Yes he was able to balance the budget and even had a surplus.

But he NEVER got close to paying off the debt.

I suggest you look up the difference between deficit and debt.

Uh he's not dead.... It was just a misprint by CBS Sports....

Joe Paterno not dead

So let me repeat that. HE'S NOT DEAD

@RsistncE: You think I'm a Bush fan? Bush was a terrible president.

Yet somehow Obama has proven to be even worse. Spending is the last thing the government should do during a recession. Studies have shown stimulus spending during a recession only prolongs the recession.

Trying to alter the free market always has negative consequences. That's why we're in this mess to begin with.

It started in 1977 when Jimmy Carter's administration passed the Community Reinvestment Act - forcing banks and lenders to give mortgages to low income families who likely could not pay off the loans(AKA sub-prime loans). The intention of the act was to give low income families access to credit, but a side-effect was banks making loans that they could not profit from.

This caused an enormous housing bubble that grew for decades.

This act lived through several presidential administrations until Clinton's administration modified the act, making lenders loan to even lower income families.

This caused the housing bubble to grow even larger and faster, eventually bursting in the late 2000s.

Bush's policies didn't help the crisis at all, and may have even accelerated it. But this recession was not caused by 8 years of bad leadership. It was caused by decades of bad government policies.

One of the things people hated Bush for was his high spending and increase of the debt.

Obama has increased the debt more in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years.

Obama is so socialist that Stalin would be proud of him.

@MrRoboto said:

I don't really think that mainstreaming a product is all that innovative.

Well it's one thing to invent something. It's another thing to get people to buy that invention.

@AlexW00d said:

One has set the trend of charging way too fucking much for shit products and one does things others do but on the internet. Neither.

Then what company do you think is more innovative than either of these two?