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@Hailinel said:

@Questionable said:

The first (disastrous) game got a big hunk of its sales before the news of how awful it was spread add to that the people too stubborn to listen to others reviews and critiques.This time around people are well informed/warned and even those who gave FF13 the benefit of the doubt got their fingers burned badly.

I enjoyed FFXIII from start to finish. Don't go painting your opinions as fact.

Well said Hallinel ......... I wish gamers (everyone really) would stop making "absolute" statements as if they couldn't possibly be wrong and only an idiot would disagree. I played FFXIII for about 80 hours, completed it (stuff I missed though) and thoroughly enjoyed it. In fact, it was the first Final Fantasy game I have finished since 3 ......... I must go back and actually finish all the others.

Qualifying statement though ....... I waited and purchased it at 35% of original price, but I am a bargain hunter and it was a bargain.

@Enns said:

The dupe has to do with the game's item shop, current inventory, and storage. There are a couple of ways to do it. They involve filling both your inventory and storage to their limits. Then having an item held for you while you do something like item world leveling. When you level an item they hang onto it, then you fill that last spot in your inventory while there. After completing your item world trip the NPC can't give your item back so it's sent to the item shop for you to buy back. Then the actual bug is at this step, while going through the inventory you choose to buy said item in the equip preview screen instead of the inventory list. Re-enter shop and it'll still be there for you to buy. You can dupe weapons easily by reincarnating a human to monster monster to human if they're holding a weapon they can't use because of their race, it ends up in the shop just like the item world route. Just need to keep inventory and storage full so you can get the bug to activate at the shop. Then you can make room and rebuy through equip screen.

This dupe is looked down upon by some. It's actually only useful for hardcore post game stuff like duping specific innocents or perfected weapons and trapezohedrons.

Also I may have made a mistake about how to execute the dupe but I'm pretty sure that's the gist of it. I'm tempted to do it for dual innocents.. but I'll see how tough it is the legit way first.

Wow ...... how does this get past testers and who figures these things out ........... it seems very tempting to exploit it and ignore the update completely. Thanks for the information.

I presume it has been said before me, but there is only one question ........

Why presume it needs fixing?

Seems they are getting a lot of things right over and over. The trouble with gamers is they complain when something doesn't change and then complain when they change.

@Addfwyn said:

I'm specifically avoiding patching until I get as much stuff done as I can (except the online stuff) because the patch fixes the duping glitch, which can shave like 50 hours off the time to platinum the game (still looking at like 200 hours either way).

The game is pretty playable without the patch, I haven't noticed anything that specifically required it. Unless you want to jump straight to DLC or MP stuff, you'll be fine.

I think I will avoid the update for a while then, but curious, explain to me what on earth the "duping glitch" is please.

Impressive man ..... I am still only about 20 hours in and barely past the beginning I believe. It is a great game and well worth owning.

I got myself Disgaea 4 for Christmas and as a fan, I got the Collector's Edition pack. Today I pop it in the PS3 and it asks me to do an update. I thought, "fair enough" until I saw the size of it .......... 2.4Gb!!!

I have big games smaller than that in size. Is this what games have become? I don't have great access to broadband as it is, and it is pretty slow by world standards, plus I am limited to 3GB a month. Is it really reasonable for an update that large? If I didn't do the update, would it really matter? Would I notice the difference?

@DeF said:

@Contrarian said:

Composite cables for the Wii aren't very expensive ....... just look around at your local games stores and I am sure you will find them cheap.

I played FFXIII on composite cables and thought it was terrible .... all gltchy and kind of ugly .... then I hooked up HDMI cables and was amazed. Kind off the same thing .... always use the best cable available.

COMPONENT!!! not composite!!

No need for shouting ......... but, yeah, component ........ ooops.

Component cables for the Wii aren't very expensive ....... just look around at your local games stores and I am sure you will find them cheap.

I played FFXIII on composite cables and thought it was terrible .... all gltchy and kind of ugly .... then I hooked up HDMI cables and was amazed. Kind off the same thing .... always use the best cable available.

EDIT: I said the wrong cable, sorry.

If you see it at a good price (by your definition), just buy it ...... you are unlikely to be disappointed.

Meh, I am as atheist as you can be and I say Merry Christmas because that is what it is. No-one owns Christmas and it means whatever you want it to mean. Why screw around with the name. Christmas has nothing to do with Christ for me, but it doesn't matter. When I say Merry Christmas to my christian friends it means I hopre they enjoy their religious celebration. When I say it to everyone else, it means have fun with whatever you do.