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#1  Edited By CrossTheAtlantic

The only thing I really thought was cool was the free games stuff (which I've really enjoyed on PSN), but then I read that it's apparently only until the Xbox One launches?

Is that the case? Because then I really don't understand giving away free games to pump people up for your new system when said games won't play on it. Oh well.

I'm curious to see what happens with Xbox Live and the Cloud. Will single player games that use "cloud power" (aka, the nice way of saying always online) require subscription to Xbox Live Gold to use or will they work only on a Silver subscription? If that's been addressed then maybe I missed it.


EDIT: Also, it looked like Microsoft paid the big bucks from some exclusives and timed exclusivity, so I'm curious to see how Sony is going to respond to that.

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@spraynardtatum: If you haven't seen it, you might be interested in this news which does directly involve Microsoft (who was allegedly the first to start working with the NSA and was developed based off a Microsoft program).

So, yeah, that sort of undercuts their promises a bit.

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#3  Edited By CrossTheAtlantic

I think the only way this works in phones is because a phone is needed to connect you to one thing:

a service.

Because we as people feel like we need that service, we seek out devices which providers are then able to subsidize the cost of in order to rope us into their service. In order for Microsoft (or Sony) to be able to subsidize hardware like that, they'd have to be able to provide a service that one would want almost in spite of the console itself. I feel like neither of them make a compelling argument for that on a wide enough scale--it would likely have to be a service that appeals to nongamers as well.

The problem with what Microsoft offers--and I'm speaking mostly towards them because I don't really know what Sony's plans are--is that, if you're not a gamer, their service is mostly a yearly fee to be able to access your other subscribed services. In order for there to be a demand on that scale, they would have to offer something as universal and desired as "making a phone call" (though that desire has since come to include much more services such as text, interenet, etc though they all still fall in to the one service).

Now, perhaps, gaming itself could become that service. In this darkest timeline we're painting, I could see the possibility that FutureGamingCompany decides the Okama Game Sphere is a console you buy for $199. "What a deal!" you say, jumping up and down. However, when you get home to plug it in, you find yourself staring at a screen that says "Congratulations on your purchase!" it says. "In order to play your games, you first must subscribe to our PlayYOurGame Online service! Enjoy!" and then we all lose.

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@humanity said:

All I know is that I like to play games and I am willing to adapt to new conditions in order to continue playing fun games that are console exclusive.

But my question--and I don't intend this as personal or hyperbolic which is how these conversations usually go--why do we as the consumer's have to adapt to practices that don't favor us? Why can't the businesses "adapt?"

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@xyzygy said:

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@xyzygy said:

Really don't see the whole point of hating on the Kinect thing. You're getting a bundled accessory

Pretty sure you just explained why people are hating... I never bothered getting the Kinect and I don't want to have it on my new console.

I still don't see that as a reasonable explanation. I still see it as people nitpicking the smallest things they don't like and making such a big deal out of it. Take it out of the box, plug it in, put it somewhere, forget about it. It's not like you have to buy anything extra.

I still sort of get it from a privacy standpoint. Because, despite what Microsoft said about being able to turn it off, they picked probably the most ironic week to say "No, it would never be used to spy on you!"

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@baillie said:
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Spend $400+ on a brand new console. Can't afford $10 a month for internet.

Logical.

Forgetting about outtages or other circumstances.

Logical.

Don't go for shit internet providers.

Logical. Also, when has your internet ever been out longer than a day? The longest mine has is like 30 minutes.

Unfortunately, people don't always have a choice with that. Where I live in New York City, you have one option (Cablevision/Optimum), and other neighborhoods in the city can be only Verizon or TimeWarner, etc. If you're lucky, you might get two options. It's a fucking racket.

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@pr1mus said:

If you don't connect once per week the Microsoft Repo Team comes to your place and takes the console back because obviously you don't use it anyway.

If it's Harry Dean Stanton, then that feature becomes a plus.

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@epicsteve said:

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

No, not everyone does and there are a number of issues with it, as detailed above. I can't understand the people who don't try to see these things from others' perspective instead of being dismissive about it.

Yeah, my younger brother doesn't normally connect his Xbox to the internet, either, so it would definitely affect him, for instance. Other times he goes on tour with a professional drum core or whatever, and I know he takes the Xbox so he and friends can play whenever they have downtime. That sort of thing wouldn't really be able to happen then either. Like I said, rarely a big deal for me, but I can totally still see how it would suck.

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@connerthekewlkid said:

I have a feeling this could just be something with cloud saves and its Kotaku being Kotaku but who knows at this point.

That would be ideal, but their answer to the Q&A on always-online definitely leaves wiggle room for something like this. Would obviously like it not to be the case. While it doesn't really affect me, I still think it's kinda whack.

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@oscar__explosion:

At this point, the worst case scenario is the Xbox One presentation sort of glossed over it's fairly anti-consumer aspects, and the best case scenario is that no one at Microsoft knows what the fuck their console actually does or does not do.