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@rethla said:

@claybrez: Ofc you have knuckleheads and extremes on both sides but that has never been and should never be seen as the majority. If people understood this properly you could shorten this thread by 18 pages.

Absolutely true. Just feels necessary to state the obvious sometimes when people become so biased.

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For a good example of the morally righteous and "tolerant" left, look no further than the violent shitstorm that are these anti Trump protests. Trump supporters are literally being dragged from their cars and beaten in the street. Anyone who is claiming there isn't hatred on both sides is utterly full of shit.

To clarify, I'm not denying some of this is Trump's fault for being brash, but the media has whipped half the population into a frenzy by posturing for the Clinton campaign 24/7. Stop denying reality already, that is what got us into this mess.

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@canadianmath said:

@owack6: The author decries smugness and Twitter insults, while literally making "liberal smugness" the core of their rant. Every other paragraph is a jab. Every sentence is condescending. No points are made. It's a mess. Hell, they spend a sizeable word count building the straw man of liberal "coolness". This is not a good article.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/

Here's a better article that says the same thing. Get used to hearing this point be made, because it is absolutely true. The media gambled on shaming voters this election and they have been firmly rebuked. Any news media person worth their salt knows this. I'm even seeing similar articles pop up on huffington post.

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@familyphotoshoot said:

For years the GOP AND Democrats have been distracting poor people by saying "Capitalism isn't the problem! It's immigration! It's terrorism! It's PoC! It's everything except capitalism that's the problem!". Guess what? Those chickens are finallly coming home to roost. The Democrats who historically have claimed to have solutions for the poor nomiated the most out of touch, corrupt person they possible could have. Another candidate who loves war and promises superficial change, but only brings a staggering sense of entitlement.

What you're seeing here is a scramble for narrative. Are we really going to continue with the tired nonsense that racism and sexism motivated the entire electorate? Or are we going to get down to it and ACTUALLY look at class and economic issues and the focus on the poor that Sanders and Trump represented to their voters. The Left has to take a good long look at itself and ask if it was worth rigging the primaries for Clinton, and throwing white workers under the bus by calling them deplorables, racists, and xenophobes.

Voters want to be treated like they're human. Trump did that by playing on group identity, bringing people in based on ethnicity and cultural background. Sanders did it by encouraging class identity, uniting people against special interests. Clinton... Well, what did she even do? What was her demographic exactly? White middle class feminists who think it'd be neat for a woman to be president? People who don't like Trump? We are living in a world where the status quo just IS NOT WORKING for the poor. How is offering the status quo going to help or reach these people? We need MORE than a superficial change.

Democrats were told this from the beginning. They didn't listen and now they're refusing to understand that it wasn't third parties or racists that fucked them over. It was DWS and the Democratic party itself.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/presidential-election-donald-trump-would-have-lost-if-bernie-sanders-had-been-the-candidate-a7406346.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_democratic_party_establishment_is_finished_after_trump.html

Yeah, this is a good analysis of what has happened. It's pretty well known that our presidential candidates campaign as centrists with little to distinguish themselves. Trump was able to win by appearing to speak to the electorate directly and having a clearer message. Bernie shared similar qualities that would've made him a hell of a lot more competitive than Hillary.

I hope this is the election that makes the DNC change. It's a hard pill to swallow but defaulting to the racist argument is what lost them this election. The deplorable comment only hardened Trump's support. Here's a guy that said he wants to fix your economy and you support him on the basis of that, and you're being assumed to be a heartless racist off the bat by the other side. Yeah, not good.

I supported Trump in this election but I'm not blind to his faults. I'm not even blind to the supposed pros of a Hillary presidency. I think I'm a reasonable person and I could've been reached this election cycle, but all I got was condescension from the left. Hillary's campaign thought it didn't even need to argue for itself. Just condemn condemn condemn, as if the same portion of the white electorate that voted for Obama was suddenly a group of KKK sympathizing white nationalist terrorists.

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Cry bigotry and sexism all you want, but the truth is Trump outperformed Romney with black and hispanic voters. And there is so much more to this election than just that...

The DNC rigged their primary for a less competitive candidate in Clinton.

Her campaign ignored pleas from Democrat officials in the rust belt. They saw the tide turning after Bernie won the Democratic primary. She ignored blue collar workers of all creeds.

The Clinton campaign believed they could shame and ridicule their way into the white house by colluding with the mainstream news media and Hollywood. They belittled the concerns of everyday Americans in the process, and began losing on every issue. It is unsurprising that in the final stretch of the election, the campaign's closing arguments boiled down to little more than personal attacks on Trump's character. Say what you will about him but Hillary did not present an identifiable vision for America outside the rather alarming information one could gleam from leaked emails, which she hardly ever clarified.

As a secretary of state and in her words as a presidential candidate, she was closer to a neo-con than the ultra progressive, feminist icon the left wanted her to be. She destabilized Libya in a George Bush fashion, needlessly creating a power vacuum for ISIS to flourish. And she would've rather destroyed relations with Russia than answer for a single controversy.

She lost this election all on her own.

I think this election proves that the average voter is more perceptive than we would give them credit for, not less.

As a resident of Michigan, I fail to see why I should be shamed for wanting the automotive industry to return to my home state. I fail to see why I'm supposed to vote for my country second, and the world first, when I can't even expect the same of other countries.

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@artisanbreads: I think the older games had a more consistently dark and moody atmosphere. A lot of the super spy/political intrigue felt secondary to the dark satire of the outrageous people you were tasked with killing. I think Hokkaido captures that feeling better by 1) having you kill a hitman with the best medical care available (that kind of absurd situation harkens back to classic hitman in a big way), 2) pitting you against edgy tokyo-styled yakuza henchman wearing medical attire (the themed henchman angle is something I loved from previous games that this entry is sorely lacking) and 3) the lighting and overall vibe of the visuals. Agent 47 belongs in night time environments with the occasional neon thing around.

All Hokkaido needed was Jesper Kyd's music.

This new Hitman seems to be going for more of a James Bond global trotting adventure thing, which is still cool. I just like my Hitman equals parts luxury and seedy, and this has gone full vacation planner mode. I kinda want to go to some places people don't actually want to travel to, or at least, something that isn't quite as pristine as what we've been given so far.

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Every weapon can do decent damage if you upgrade it high enough and have the right stats. Get conformable with the ideas of stat scaling (certain weapons increase their damage output based on certain stats, for example a great club gets a huge damage boost with a high strength stat since it has an "A" scaling in strength) and i-framing through attacks (invincibility frames mean frames of animations where you can't take damage, you get i-frames when you roll, use that to your advantage by timing your rolls just as an enemy is about to hit you. This means if you're good enough with your timings, you can still avoid taking damage even if you're physically in the enemy's hitbox) .

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@artisanbreads said:

After putting the time in, Hokkaido is hands down the best map. Coolest looking, best opportunities, amazing mastery unlocks, some of the moves available to the AI, the possible kills, the costume door unlocking mechanisms, and the coolest costumes themselves. All on what is actually a pretty small map too. So well designed.

I know, it is truly stellar. Great layout and the first level where the 'classic hitman' atmosphere was especially strong imo. Every corner of the map would make for an interesting screenshot. Also, I thought it was amazing that (nifty game mechanic spoiler:) dragging the body of a person opens the doors that correspond to their uniform.

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Considering ep 6 marks the end of this "season", thought it might be nice to discuss this year's content as a whole in one thread.

Overall, I'm pretty pleased with it. The story is moving in a fun direction and I think they have a lot of places to go with it, and that's just based on all the ambient dialogue that seems to be referencing something we never get to see in-game just yet.

Three of the missions are absolutely stellar imo (paris, sapienza, hokkaido) and the rest of them are OK but not great. So, it's a good start but there's definitely room for improvement.

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Pretty sure that the ICA bit is supposed to be in the past. The phones etc. is due to the story being meaningless pap.

I actually think they're trying harder with this game's story (and doing a good job of it). It attempts more world building and subtlety, which is a welcome departure from Absolution's method of storytelling.