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Hey bombers, I was listening to the most recent bombcast and found it ironic that the staff took such an opposing stance to certain drugs. First and foremost, I agree with the cast that tobacco is generally dumb, and I will never understand why people pretend to like Cigars.

I'm not an advocate - I'm not trying to fill a deodorant stick full of LSD and rub it on Jeff Gerstmann's face (partly because: why would I give you free LSD? I'd just take it myself). I also understand that drugs like crack, cocaine, heroin and meth are not even worth my words. Those substances previously mentioned are pretty much bad no matter which way you slice 'em.

But I think it is so funny how Dan lumps in LSD with crack, meth and the like. Clearly Dan knows nothing about LSD, and the fact that he'd prefer me to be in jail as an infrequent user of this drug is pretty ridiculous. For clarity, shrooms, LSD and marijuana are not like crack, Dan. You're not gonna drop LSD and wanna throw a dumpster at someone. After taking it myself, youd have to be pretty crazy to "think you can fly" and jump out a window (as the old LSD stereotype goes). LSD makes you trip, meaning you will see beautiful visuals and start in depth conversations with your fellow trippers. It is not addicting in the slightest and the three times I have done it have been positive experiences.

Is LSD healthy? NO. Is a Big Whopper healthy? FUCK NO? Did LSD lead me to a greater appreciation for natural beauty and the friends that surround me? Personally, yes. Has a Whopper done anything but increase long-term sadness? Probably.

The point is, and Dan I hope you somehow read this: I wouldn't go on a podcast and say that people who eat whoppers should be arrested. Doesn't that sound crazy? Like Jeff said, because drugs can be inherently linked to crime, go after the distributors if you must. But leave the poor saps like my friends and I alone man. We're just trying to have a good time.even at Burning Man. And LSD, shrooms and weed are not the same level of drug use as crack, meth and heroin.

Dan, if you tried LSD, you would probably shit your pants, thank me after your trip is done and laugh about how you wanted to be a cop when you were younger.

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Ea must be very desperate to push Origin on to people. Most people are going to download DAO, beat it and remove origin from their PC. That's what I did last time they made me download Mass Effect 2 through Origin.

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Damn so its not available yet? I'm looking at the season pass I got and it claims ep 5 is coming soon. HOW SOON? I NEED IT NOW!

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@sissylion said:

@demontium said:

Fez is a very interesting and unique experience, but soon after realizing that every problem in the game can by solved by rotating the world around. Yes, the language, the puzzle hunting, and exploration do take the game further, but there is no real game to begin with. This is an extremely simple platformer with overly simple puzzles, whose main focus seems to be frivolous treasure hunting and letting you know that Phil Fish absolutely believes in dimensions beyond our 3rd.

"Super Mario Bros is a game that can be completely overcome by jumping and moving to the right. 2/10."

Sorry for being unclear. I meant that instead of using the perspective change in a way that led to new forms of puzzle-solving, you pretty much just keep turning it left and right until the platform is there. Instead of requiring logic on the players part, this game simply uses the perspective change as a gimmick rather than a a gameplay aspect.

Now as far as your example using SMB - that was a game that literally laid the standard for every future platform as far as mechanics. So I really don't see you're point. If you were to compare Fez's perspective change to mario's jump mechanics relative to when each game was released, Nintnedo's game was groundbreaking and Polytron's had a neat idea that severely lacked execution.

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@fattony12000:

wow I completely spaced on the fact that this game has fucking transformers and dinosaurs. It looks amazing. Heres the trailer.

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It came out in 2012 so am I missing something? Was it released digitally in 2013?

Regardless of when it came out, this game is terribly over-hyped. Animal Crossing worked back on the GCN, only because facebook games were not a thing yet. Now with social media games and the phone market, there are plenty of games that are free or close to free that do everything AC: new leaf does and more.

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@hamst3r said:

I think you're wrong and enjoyed playing FEZ immensely. It's a great game.

Why do you think I'm wrong?

I personally think Fez created its own mountain to climb by being exactly what it is. If you were there for the revelations, right there when the game was released, your perspective of the game is skewed. If you're picking up the game afterwards, your perspective is still skewed because of the "hype" and glory the game received from the people who played it initially - but nothing lives up to Internet hype, so you'll probably be disappointed. But if you're picking it up knowing nothing about it, you're getting the face of a mediocre 3D puzzle/platformer and may never see what the game has to offer, because why push through it when you spent pennies on the dollar for it? You might be the ideal someone who pushes hype and reviews aside, gave the game a shot, and ended up uncovering a lot of it on your own with absolutely no help. Even as the ideal player, you're going to give the entirety of the game the credit it probably deserves, but credit that the early parts of the game don't live up to.

A game like Fez's shelf life plummets the minute it goes for sale in the age of the Internet. Back in the NES, SNES, and PS1 days, a game like this would have probably spread like wildfire among gamers and may have been at legendary status today, since the whispers of the secrets would spread around, and there would be no Internet to spoil the entire thing. Or hype it up to be something it isn't or bring it down to something it isn't.

To wrap it up, people like to put Fez on a pedestal that I think it deserves, but don't forget that the early part of the game feels like a mediocre and clunky platformer that's also just downright confusing. Even if someone told me the secret to all life lay at the end of Home Improvement on the SNES, it would take a lot of willpower to push through it. Fez isn't that bad, but I like that analogy.

The sections I put in bold are great points. I did buy this game on steam for $.99, but decided not to look anything up and complete everything on my own. You're right, if this game was a SNES cartridge, it would make so much more sense. I consider the SNES to be the golden age, and by that I mean my nostolgia for this era kept me playing Fez. It's graphics and exploration/secrets really carried the experience for me personally, and like I said, I get the fact that Fez has the meaning of life hidden inside it (which is of course priceless).

Now taking all of that into consideration, my main problem with this game was the overwhelming hype it received. I think it is unfair that websites like Giantbomb rate this game so high when, in reality, this game plays very weak. All of the optional exploration in the game is great, the return to retro style is awesome, the initial dimension change gimmick is fun (until you realize that it is the solution for the entire game), and the broader perspective it can offer to the player can be life changing. But critics must remember to evaluate a game based on what it is, not on the fact that "if this game came out in the SNES days, man it wouldve been awesome to try and find all the secrets with your friends". Fez is what it is, and that is a short, over-simplified, over-hyped homage to the retro spirit of video games.

No one has more respect for the classics than I, trust me on that. But excluding everything around it, Fez is not a fun game at all. It's actually very boring.