Microsoft really need to get back on track with naming their consoles, they make things far to confusing for themselves. I propose that they name it the, "Xbox new plus"
The sympathy for her was mixed, Mel said she was a shitty person, and Owen said something passivly aggressive to her, like maybe he should hunt down the people that killed his parents.
@phillipcat: What happened with Joel seemed unnecessarily prolonged and for someone seeking justice seemed sadistic, I didn't feel any sympathy for her, and neither did her friends despite doing nothing to stop it.
Her arc was that of redemption, she knew she was a bad person and tried to redeem herself by helping Yara and Lev.
I thought the Joel bit was contrived, but it had to be otherwise there wouldn't be a game.
The bit Brad mentioned on the Bombcast was extremely uncomfortable to play, but echo's "If I were to lose you i'd surley lose myself", she lost herself and was driven by an niggling obession, in the end she managed to realize this and let it go.
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