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@yadilie said:

@cale said:

"FANS OF THE GENRE SHOULD ENJOY Persona."

I don't understand how anyone could enjoy the original Persona. Even the 2 Persona 2's are so full of shitty gameplay mechanics that it makes them just a pain to enjoy. Fuck the conversations to get demons. Random as hell and just straight up dumb.

That's why I'm generally not very enthusiastic about the main Shin Megami Tensei series either. Some people love it, and I'm fine with that, but the demon conversations can be pretty unintuitive until you look up how they work (depending on the game), and they're just really grindy games that you have to play exactly right or you just get completely owned by every enemy.

It might be that I just don't like dungeon crawlers.

Negotiations in IV are seemingly less random or not random. Plus if you mess up you can just talk to the same demon again and not choose that same option. Most of the time they just straight up ask for items instead of asking questions. There are tons of ways you can choose to affect conversation and negotiations, some of which makes it really rewarding. Plus you get insane EXP if you successfully negotiate, too.

So yeah, while negotiation still needs to be a thing, many problems with it have been addressed in IV.

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#2  Edited By eirikr

when is shin megami tensei iv: maniacs coming out

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So here's what'll happen. Index and Atlus go under, Kaneko wakes up in a flower field next to Cozy Okada who whispers in his ear "Kaz, it's time" and they both whip out huge stacks of cash and buy the rights to all Megami Tensei related properties and form their own new company. Then they BURN EVERYTHING and are never seen again

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On the Shin Megami Tensei IV page, all the character, concept, location, and object associations have disappeared. It doesn't look like vandalism, so I'm wondering if this is just a temporary database quirk or something else altogether. Hopefully it can be reverted, but if it can't it would be a shame as @soren and I have been painstakingly keeping the page updated over a year, especially on the hundreds of characters and concepts within the game.

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#7  Edited By eirikr

@metalsnakezero: Whisper Events happen once a demon learns all its skills. So that can take between one or a few level ups to occur.

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@misterbuns: Aoki was a baller. I'm glad the Majin Tensei Neo Jakyou theme is in SMT IV, as it's a great one.

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@neoepoch: Yeah, it's really something. If nothing else, watch the other video I linked (put it in a different tab and don't watch the video if you're concerned about spoilers) just to hear the full boss music, it's pretty rad.

I also should have clarified that the Cathedral track I linked is a medley of themes from 1, 2, Nocturne, and Majin Tensei. Dunno yet if it's actually in the game, the in-game Cathedral theme is definitely not this live organ version.

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And here's nearly 30 minutes of video, but it's potentially spoilery (guy attempting to beat an early boss), so if you're concerned about that stick to the one Hailinel posted.

Have some Cathedral of Shadows music (from the Sound and Art Collection bonus CD) too:

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My copy is currently out for delivery. EEEEEEEE