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Top 5 War Movies.


Below are my favorite interpretations of real-world wars. My taste in war movies are strictly modern movies, so you wont see any black and white WWII hero movies.


5. Black Hawk Down (2001)



Conflict: Battle of Mogadishu 
Based on a True Story: Yes 
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by Ridley Scot
Cast: Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor, Tom Sizemore, Orlando Bloom
Awards: Best film editing and sound in 2001 
 
 
 
 
Black Hawk Down shows the Battle of Mogadishu, a battle in 1993 were U.S. Rangers and Cavalry were on a mission to capture a violent warlord responsible for genocide. What was expected to be a 1 hour  "tag him and bag him" mission turned into a day-long struggle to survive. The entire city U.S. forces were raiding was hostile. In short supply of men and resources, the soldiers find that they were caught in a trap within the in the city fighting thousands of Somalians. The conclusion of the fighting left 19 American soldiers dead, and over 1,000 Somalian civilians and insurgents dead, and the targeted warlord wasn't captured for another three years. 
 
The film itself has little drama and is merely a 90 minute battle sequence. But it does have some well-directed action which is rare in the field of modern-military movies. 

 

Real-World Results of the fight:

 
The Battle of Mogadishu has had many long-term affects on American military. Osama Bin Laden used the battle as a recruiting tool, showing off weak U.S. intelligence and overall weakness. The event has also made the military weary of any African operations. A lot of people blame this event for the lack of U.S. intervention on Darfur genocide and certain terrorism operations in Africa. The mission was considered to be the greatest modern military failure and defeat.  
 
Also, one of my Drill Sergeants who trained me was in this conflict. That's kind of cool. 
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: Never find security in Helicopters.
 

4. Saving Private Ryan (1998)

 
 
 
Conflict: WWII
Based on a True Story: The characters and plot, no. Obviously the setting and events totally happened.
Based on a book: No 
Directed by: Steven Spielberg
Cast: Tom Hawks, Edward Burns, Tom Sizemore, Matt Damon 
Awards: Nominated for 11 Academy Awards, Best Director.
 
The main plot of the film revolved around a team of soldiers looking for a lost 101st private whom is the last surviving brother among the Ryan family, the other three brothers died on D-Day. Obviously taking place in WWII, Saving Private Ryan's set in the initial invasion of Nazi occupied France. Saving Private Ryan is probably both the most graphic and artistically accurate among military adaptations. The film is most known for its realistic and well-produced Normandy Beach landing scene, were U.S. soldiers stormed Omaha beach. If you haven't seen what is widely considered the best battle scene of all time, I highly recommend it. Keep in mind, it's a 24 minute opening. You'll be hard-pressed to not say "fuck...dude" after the horrific scene concludes.  
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: I will never clear something called a "murder hole"
 

3. We Were Soldiers (2002)

 
  
  
 
Conflict: Early Vietnam War.
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Randall Wallace
Cast: Mel Gibson, Madeleine Stowe, Taylor Momsen, Sam Elliott 
 
We Were Soldiers tells the true story of a group of Cavalry Scouts (1st Cavalry) fight in "the valley of death" during the Battle of Ia Drang on November, 1965. This was the first major conflict in Vietnam involving U.S. troops. Not long into the fight, the soldiers are ambushed by the enemy. Think of this as Black Hawk Down...but in a jungle. This is probably one of the more depressing war movies I've seen. The film depicts the heavy losses the cavalry took during the battle and the affects of their wives back home. In fact, the movie does a good job with the roles played by both Col Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) and his wife Julia Moore during the war. Moore lead his men into battle, and his wife back home let her friends know how their fallen husbands. Both of them constantly having a difficult time but playing their role. Unfortunately I can't watch this movie with my girlfriend because it makes her sad.
 
As a fellow Cavalrymen, I feel like I have some weird personal connection with the event. This movie does have a lot of neat Cav Scout history in it if you're one yourself, or are interested in those soldiers. 
 

Real world results of the fight:

This battle was widely used as a lesson for both sides. The American Army and Marines starting using more helicopters, artillery and combat air support. The Viet Cong learned that in order to defeat Americans they had to attack in close combat, quickly and aggressively in large numbers. The battle was considered a draw with neither side making any real progress in the war. U.S. took nearly 350 fatalities and over 300 wounded during the two day battle.
 

How I'll apply this film to my life: Fire is bad.

 

 

2. Hurt Locker (2009)

 
 
   
 
Conflict: Post-Invasion Iraq
Based on a True Story: Conflict only, plot is mostly fiction. A lot of the events in the movie were inspired by real-world events witnessed by the writer.
Based on a book: No
Directed By: Kathryn Bigelow 
Cast: Jeremy Renner, Anthony Mackie, Brian Geraghty 
Awards: Various independent awards and honors. 2010 BAFTA -- best film, editing, directors, screen play, cinematography, and sound. Nominated for 9 Academy Award including Best Picture and Best Director.

Unlike my past-listings, Hurt Locker isn't depressing, it doesn't show large amounts of American-related deaths, it isn't even a major war-turning conflict, nor does it focus on the violence of war but the absence of violence in war. The movie revolves around a three-man EOD team, risk-taker Sergeant First-Class James, no-bullshit Sergeant Sanborn, and rookie Specialist Eldridge. The main theme of the script is the addictive nature of combat, set up by a simple powerful quote from author Chris Hedges: “War is a drug.”
 
The film focuses on the dynamics among the men when the set out on missions. Hurt Locker is jammed-packed with intense memorable moments that'll leave you on the edge of your seat. This isn't really an action movie, but more of a thriller. 
 
How I'll apply this film to my life: Just shoot at bombs with .50 cal and call it a day.
 

1. Band of Brothers (2001)

  
 
 
10 -- 1hr Episode mini-series. 
Obviously not a movie, but my current title for this blog is short and good enough.
 
Conflict: Allies invasion of Nazi-occupied France, then Germany toward the end of the series. 
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Various people directed different episodes. Most notably, Tom Hawks, Phil Alden Robinson, and David Frankel.
Cast: David Schwimmer, Damian Lewis, Ron Livingston, Donnie Wahlberg
 
Band of Brothers is a mini-series depicting Easy Company's (101st Airborne) role in World War II. It stars with their jump-training, then leads into D-Day, Market Garden, Battle of the Bulge the Holocaust and eventually the entry into Germany and the ending of the European war. The series is praised for its historical accuracy. The real-world Easy-Company soldiers were used as technical advisers for the series, and each episode was approved by the surviving soldiers before airing. All the show's characters are based on actual members of Easy Company. Each episode also opens with pre-recorded interviews of the surviving soldiers telling their tale of the episode's interpretation you're about to watch.  Each episode had a $12 million budget. 
 
I could go on and on regarding how awesome Band of Brother is, but it's something you should see for yourself. This is one of the only examples of film in which I honestly knew how the characters felt and what they were thinking. The action is well-directed, and the show is also well-paced. Some scenes are light-hearted and funny, others are depressing and horrifying. From the presentation to the acting, Band of Brothers is fantastic in nearly every way. 
 
It's easy to see why Band of Brothers is highly acclaimed and is considered HBO's best series to date. It tells a gritty and realistic tale of heroes and their struggle against the German army. It honors the soldier's tale and reveals some of the darkest events in American history. I tip my hat to everyone involved in this project and the men of the 101st. 
 
Real world results of the fight: Easy Company was arguably the most useful tool during the war. They've killed countless Nazi soldiers and captured important towns, roads, and other strategic strongholds. They've saved the lives of other units many times and have endured grueling circumstances. 
 
How I'll apply this series to my life: Well, I'm doing the Airborne thing. Close enough, right? 
 
You should also watch: Apocalypse Now, Generation Kill and Full Metal Jacket.
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Below are my favorite interpretations of real-world wars. My taste in war movies are strictly modern movies, so you wont see any black and white WWII hero movies.


5. Black Hawk Down (2001)



Conflict: Battle of Mogadishu 
Based on a True Story: Yes 
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by Ridley Scot
Cast: Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor, Tom Sizemore, Orlando Bloom
Awards: Best film editing and sound in 2001 
 
 
 
 
Black Hawk Down shows the Battle of Mogadishu, a battle in 1993 were U.S. Rangers and Cavalry were on a mission to capture a violent warlord responsible for genocide. What was expected to be a 1 hour  "tag him and bag him" mission turned into a day-long struggle to survive. The entire city U.S. forces were raiding was hostile. In short supply of men and resources, the soldiers find that they were caught in a trap within the in the city fighting thousands of Somalians. The conclusion of the fighting left 19 American soldiers dead, and over 1,000 Somalian civilians and insurgents dead, and the targeted warlord wasn't captured for another three years. 
 
The film itself has little drama and is merely a 90 minute battle sequence. But it does have some well-directed action which is rare in the field of modern-military movies. 

 

Real-World Results of the fight:

 
The Battle of Mogadishu has had many long-term affects on American military. Osama Bin Laden used the battle as a recruiting tool, showing off weak U.S. intelligence and overall weakness. The event has also made the military weary of any African operations. A lot of people blame this event for the lack of U.S. intervention on Darfur genocide and certain terrorism operations in Africa. The mission was considered to be the greatest modern military failure and defeat.  
 
Also, one of my Drill Sergeants who trained me was in this conflict. That's kind of cool. 
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: Never find security in Helicopters.
 

4. Saving Private Ryan (1998)

 
 
 
Conflict: WWII
Based on a True Story: The characters and plot, no. Obviously the setting and events totally happened.
Based on a book: No 
Directed by: Steven Spielberg
Cast: Tom Hawks, Edward Burns, Tom Sizemore, Matt Damon 
Awards: Nominated for 11 Academy Awards, Best Director.
 
The main plot of the film revolved around a team of soldiers looking for a lost 101st private whom is the last surviving brother among the Ryan family, the other three brothers died on D-Day. Obviously taking place in WWII, Saving Private Ryan's set in the initial invasion of Nazi occupied France. Saving Private Ryan is probably both the most graphic and artistically accurate among military adaptations. The film is most known for its realistic and well-produced Normandy Beach landing scene, were U.S. soldiers stormed Omaha beach. If you haven't seen what is widely considered the best battle scene of all time, I highly recommend it. Keep in mind, it's a 24 minute opening. You'll be hard-pressed to not say "fuck...dude" after the horrific scene concludes.  
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: I will never clear something called a "murder hole"
 

3. We Were Soldiers (2002)

 
  
  
 
Conflict: Early Vietnam War.
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Randall Wallace
Cast: Mel Gibson, Madeleine Stowe, Taylor Momsen, Sam Elliott 
 
We Were Soldiers tells the true story of a group of Cavalry Scouts (1st Cavalry) fight in "the valley of death" during the Battle of Ia Drang on November, 1965. This was the first major conflict in Vietnam involving U.S. troops. Not long into the fight, the soldiers are ambushed by the enemy. Think of this as Black Hawk Down...but in a jungle. This is probably one of the more depressing war movies I've seen. The film depicts the heavy losses the cavalry took during the battle and the affects of their wives back home. In fact, the movie does a good job with the roles played by both Col Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) and his wife Julia Moore during the war. Moore lead his men into battle, and his wife back home let her friends know how their fallen husbands. Both of them constantly having a difficult time but playing their role. Unfortunately I can't watch this movie with my girlfriend because it makes her sad.
 
As a fellow Cavalrymen, I feel like I have some weird personal connection with the event. This movie does have a lot of neat Cav Scout history in it if you're one yourself, or are interested in those soldiers. 
 

Real world results of the fight:

This battle was widely used as a lesson for both sides. The American Army and Marines starting using more helicopters, artillery and combat air support. The Viet Cong learned that in order to defeat Americans they had to attack in close combat, quickly and aggressively in large numbers. The battle was considered a draw with neither side making any real progress in the war. U.S. took nearly 350 fatalities and over 300 wounded during the two day battle.
 

How I'll apply this film to my life: Fire is bad.

 

 

2. Hurt Locker (2009)

 
 
   
 
Conflict: Post-Invasion Iraq
Based on a True Story: Conflict only, plot is mostly fiction. A lot of the events in the movie were inspired by real-world events witnessed by the writer.
Based on a book: No
Directed By: Kathryn Bigelow 
Cast: Jeremy Renner, Anthony Mackie, Brian Geraghty 
Awards: Various independent awards and honors. 2010 BAFTA -- best film, editing, directors, screen play, cinematography, and sound. Nominated for 9 Academy Award including Best Picture and Best Director.

Unlike my past-listings, Hurt Locker isn't depressing, it doesn't show large amounts of American-related deaths, it isn't even a major war-turning conflict, nor does it focus on the violence of war but the absence of violence in war. The movie revolves around a three-man EOD team, risk-taker Sergeant First-Class James, no-bullshit Sergeant Sanborn, and rookie Specialist Eldridge. The main theme of the script is the addictive nature of combat, set up by a simple powerful quote from author Chris Hedges: “War is a drug.”
 
The film focuses on the dynamics among the men when the set out on missions. Hurt Locker is jammed-packed with intense memorable moments that'll leave you on the edge of your seat. This isn't really an action movie, but more of a thriller. 
 
How I'll apply this film to my life: Just shoot at bombs with .50 cal and call it a day.
 

1. Band of Brothers (2001)

  
 
 
10 -- 1hr Episode mini-series. 
Obviously not a movie, but my current title for this blog is short and good enough.
 
Conflict: Allies invasion of Nazi-occupied France, then Germany toward the end of the series. 
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Various people directed different episodes. Most notably, Tom Hawks, Phil Alden Robinson, and David Frankel.
Cast: David Schwimmer, Damian Lewis, Ron Livingston, Donnie Wahlberg
 
Band of Brothers is a mini-series depicting Easy Company's (101st Airborne) role in World War II. It stars with their jump-training, then leads into D-Day, Market Garden, Battle of the Bulge the Holocaust and eventually the entry into Germany and the ending of the European war. The series is praised for its historical accuracy. The real-world Easy-Company soldiers were used as technical advisers for the series, and each episode was approved by the surviving soldiers before airing. All the show's characters are based on actual members of Easy Company. Each episode also opens with pre-recorded interviews of the surviving soldiers telling their tale of the episode's interpretation you're about to watch.  Each episode had a $12 million budget. 
 
I could go on and on regarding how awesome Band of Brother is, but it's something you should see for yourself. This is one of the only examples of film in which I honestly knew how the characters felt and what they were thinking. The action is well-directed, and the show is also well-paced. Some scenes are light-hearted and funny, others are depressing and horrifying. From the presentation to the acting, Band of Brothers is fantastic in nearly every way. 
 
It's easy to see why Band of Brothers is highly acclaimed and is considered HBO's best series to date. It tells a gritty and realistic tale of heroes and their struggle against the German army. It honors the soldier's tale and reveals some of the darkest events in American history. I tip my hat to everyone involved in this project and the men of the 101st. 
 
Real world results of the fight: Easy Company was arguably the most useful tool during the war. They've killed countless Nazi soldiers and captured important towns, roads, and other strategic strongholds. They've saved the lives of other units many times and have endured grueling circumstances. 
 
How I'll apply this series to my life: Well, I'm doing the Airborne thing. Close enough, right? 
 
You should also watch: Apocalypse Now, Generation Kill and Full Metal Jacket.
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No Das Boot no credibility.

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@EpicSteve: This is a damn good list.
What is your opinion on Letters From Iwo Jima?
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Glad to see you put Hurt Locker on there. No Full Metal Jacket though? :(

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  Apocalypse Now is not just the best war movie, it's the best movie ever. Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket is second. Easily.  

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Good list, but I haven't seen Hurt Locker yet. Honestly I have no plans to either, but I have heard it's pretty good. Any coincidence they are all Army? :D

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Nothing before WW2?
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Good choices  EXCEPT - We Were Soldiers................that movie SUCKED.

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@lead_farmer said:
" @EpicSteve: This is a damn good list. What is your opinion on Letters From Iwo Jima? "
I really like letters from Iwo Jima, and of course Saving Private Ryan is number one.
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Also We Were Soldiers is absolute jingoistic muck aside from being a bad film. That list should go:
Apocalypse Now.
Das Boot.
Come and See.
Saving Private Ryan.
Full Metal Jacket.

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1. Das Boot
2. All Quiet On The Western Front
3. Grave of the Fireflies
4. ?
 
 
I wouldn't include movies with lots of "Oh yeah, that's kinda cool!" moments in any "top war movies" list.
 

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Jarhead and Platoon are good war (yet anti-war) movies.

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Also Braveheart?
Platoon?

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I've probably seen the Band of Brothers series five times, such a fantastic series. I'm excited for The Pacific, it should be equally as great.

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Why don't some of you like We Were Soldiers? That movie is incredibly accurate and very well written. The book is equally good.  
 
Just trying to figure out why the hate for that movie..

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@Andheez said:
" Also Braveheart? Platoon? " 

Oliver Stone is usually a little to in your face with his liberal views for me, but I do really like Platoon it was a well made and great movie. (William Defoe is freaking awesome.)
@chstupid said:

" Nothing before WW2? "

The Patriot was pretty good.
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Those of you suggesting Das Boot, I haven't seen that movie. @chstupid said:

" Nothing before WW2? "

Can you suggest anything aside from The Patriot that's good? I would really love to see some WWI movie or something.
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@EpicSteve said:
Can you suggest anything aside from The Patriot that's good? I would really love to see some WWI movie or something. "
All Quiet On The Western Front. Although the movie is pretty tame compared to the book.
 

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It's different from what my list would be... but I can respect it.
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I liked Enemy at the Gates, 
though it isnt as good as these films, 
and its a total snipe fest : /

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@VWGTI said:
" Glad to see you put Hurt Locker on there. No Full Metal Jacket though? :( "
Of course not including Full Metal Jacket was rough. It was between that and Black Hawk Down. I felt like Full Metal Jacket had a strong opening and changed tone too dramatically afterwards and the action scenes weren't as good as Black Hawk Down. When I say "not as good", I mean "they're both awesome, but Black Hawk Down is a little more awesome".
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@Gabriel said:
" @chstupid said:
" Nothing before WW2? "
The Patriot was pretty good. "
No it wasn't.
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I wouldn't suggest Grave of the Fireflies because its not a WAR film.  
 
I'll suggest Letters from Iwo Jima
 

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Thing with lists like these, there are always movies that people will think are unjustly left off, but I thought it was a good list overall.
 
A few of my favorites left off are:
 
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Bridge over the River Kwai 
The Deer Hunter

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@soundandcolour: 
I thought Enemy at the Gates was pretty underrated, I really enjoyed it, though not sure it is quite top 5 material.
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@HandsomeDead said:
" @Gabriel said:
" @chstupid said:
" Nothing before WW2? "
The Patriot was pretty good. "
No it wasn't. "
It was entertaining, I guess everything's subjective.
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Glory is solid choice for pre WWII.
Also '300'
 - but that is a divisive movie, and not sure there are enough 'issues' to consider it for a GOAT lable, but damn was it entertaining.

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Inglorious Bastards 

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fantastic list, sir! its kinda cool ur airborn cav as well. I wonder if the asshole that insults you for picking movies about america kicking ass will show up.

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@MrSpaceMan said:

" fantastic list, sir! its kinda cool ur airborn cav as well. I wonder if the asshole that insults you for picking movies about america kicking ass will show up. "

Speaking of which adding The Delta Force, just because.
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@MrSpaceMan said:

" fantastic list, sir! its kinda cool ur airborn cav as well. I wonder if the asshole that insults you for picking movies about america kicking ass will show up. "

I would tell them that We Were Soldiers and Black Hawk Down were stories were the U.S. Army lost and got murdered, and then I would show them this...
 
 
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I'd have to agree that Apocalypse Now is the best. I'd put Schindler's LIst in there, too. The opening scene in Saving Private Ryan is probably the single best depiction of the act of fighting in any war movie. Glory is another one that I really liked. Black Hawk Down was good, but I don't think it deserves to be on a list with some of these others. Likewise with Braveheart. Overrated. Too belicose and preachy.  
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@frankfartmouth said:
" I'd have to agree that Apocalypse Now is the best. I'd put Schindler's LIst in there, too. The opening scene in Saving Private Ryan is probably the single best depiction of the act of fighting in any war movie. Glory is another one that I really liked. Black Hawk Down was good, but I don't think it deserves to be on a list with some of these others. Likewise with Braveheart. Overrated. Too belicose and preachy.   "
I don't really consider Schindler's List a war movie for it has no opposing armys fighting one another. It's a movie about genocide. Great movie though!
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Band of brothers is mind blowing, dont forget The Pacific starts in 2 weeks! Also Enemy at the Gates should be on that list somewhere... you are also neglecting Schindlers List!

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I disagree. 
I disagree. 
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Star Wars?  War everywhere! In the galaxy!
 
The Terminator, a movie about the war against the machines.
 
Saving Private Ryan, needs to be there.
 
Full Metal Jacket is not here????

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Band of brothers is brilliant, it's is the only series I have watched more than three times.

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A lot of great movies, i would put inglorious bastards in the list.

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@TheHBK said:
" Star Wars?  War everywhere! In the galaxy!  The Terminator, a movie about the war against the machines.  Saving Private Ryan, needs to be there.  Full Metal Jacket is not here???? "
If I were talking about fictional wars, Star Wars would be #1.
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How the hell is Platoon not on there?  Or The Deer Hunter?
 
We were soldiers is shit...utter shit compare to either of these films. 

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Full Metal Jacket should be number 1 on everybody's list

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Braveheart and Lawrence of Arabia, but I can see why they might not be classified as war movies.
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Glory and Gettysburg are both great Civil War movies.

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@Hashbrowns said:
" Braveheart and Lawrence of Arabia, but I can see why they might not be classified as war movies. "
They're great, but I tried to stick to the gun era.
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I'm torn here, because I appreciate that you didn't go the obvious Platoon, Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket route, but at the same time I would totally put those in my war movies list haha. Well, maybe not FMJ, I think it's overrated.

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I guess I'm in the extreme minority for not really liking Platoon. But it's probably testimate to my lack of caring about Vietnam.

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Definitely agree with BoB at the top. Watched the series over a weekend in early 2008 and was fascinated every step of the way. I also agree with your second place for The Hurt Locker. Different from your average war movie, and I found it thrilling from start to finish. I would personally place Black Hawk Down third on that list (possibly joint second), because I was bored to tears half an hour into We Were Soldiers - obviously you have your reasons for liking it. Never seen Saving Private Ryan, funnily enough, despite it's popularity.

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Tom Hawks? Really?.......... really? 
 
Anyways, your list is pretty spot on. 
BoB is also my favorite, that series just blew me away.

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@Binman88 said:
" Definitely agree with BoB at the top. Watched the series over a weekend in early 2008 and was fascinated every step of the way. I also agree with your second place for The Hurt Locker. Different from your average war movie, and I found it thrilling from start to finish. I would personally place Black Hawk Down third on that list (possibly joint second), because I was bored to tears half an hour into We Were Soldiers - obviously you have your reasons for liking it. Never seen Saving Private Ryan, funnily enough, despite it's popularity. "
Duder, Saving Private Ryan is practically Band of Brother the movie. Speilburg and Tom Hawks brought both of them out, they have the same gritty/grainy style, and share a similar tone.
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@EpicSteve:  Sold then! I'll pick it up next time I'm shopping online. I'm surprised I haven't picked it up before; I'm actually quite fond of Hanks as an actor.