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Top 5 War Movies.


Below are my favorite interpretations of real-world wars. My taste in war movies are strictly modern movies, so you wont see any black and white WWII hero movies.


5. Black Hawk Down (2001)



Conflict: Battle of Mogadishu 
Based on a True Story: Yes 
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by Ridley Scot
Cast: Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor, Tom Sizemore, Orlando Bloom
Awards: Best film editing and sound in 2001 
 
 
 
 
Black Hawk Down shows the Battle of Mogadishu, a battle in 1993 were U.S. Rangers and Cavalry were on a mission to capture a violent warlord responsible for genocide. What was expected to be a 1 hour  "tag him and bag him" mission turned into a day-long struggle to survive. The entire city U.S. forces were raiding was hostile. In short supply of men and resources, the soldiers find that they were caught in a trap within the in the city fighting thousands of Somalians. The conclusion of the fighting left 19 American soldiers dead, and over 1,000 Somalian civilians and insurgents dead, and the targeted warlord wasn't captured for another three years. 
 
The film itself has little drama and is merely a 90 minute battle sequence. But it does have some well-directed action which is rare in the field of modern-military movies. 

 

Real-World Results of the fight:

 
The Battle of Mogadishu has had many long-term affects on American military. Osama Bin Laden used the battle as a recruiting tool, showing off weak U.S. intelligence and overall weakness. The event has also made the military weary of any African operations. A lot of people blame this event for the lack of U.S. intervention on Darfur genocide and certain terrorism operations in Africa. The mission was considered to be the greatest modern military failure and defeat.  
 
Also, one of my Drill Sergeants who trained me was in this conflict. That's kind of cool. 
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: Never find security in Helicopters.
 

4. Saving Private Ryan (1998)

 
 
 
Conflict: WWII
Based on a True Story: The characters and plot, no. Obviously the setting and events totally happened.
Based on a book: No 
Directed by: Steven Spielberg
Cast: Tom Hawks, Edward Burns, Tom Sizemore, Matt Damon 
Awards: Nominated for 11 Academy Awards, Best Director.
 
The main plot of the film revolved around a team of soldiers looking for a lost 101st private whom is the last surviving brother among the Ryan family, the other three brothers died on D-Day. Obviously taking place in WWII, Saving Private Ryan's set in the initial invasion of Nazi occupied France. Saving Private Ryan is probably both the most graphic and artistically accurate among military adaptations. The film is most known for its realistic and well-produced Normandy Beach landing scene, were U.S. soldiers stormed Omaha beach. If you haven't seen what is widely considered the best battle scene of all time, I highly recommend it. Keep in mind, it's a 24 minute opening. You'll be hard-pressed to not say "fuck...dude" after the horrific scene concludes.  
 
How I'll apply this movie to my life: I will never clear something called a "murder hole"
 

3. We Were Soldiers (2002)

 
  
  
 
Conflict: Early Vietnam War.
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Randall Wallace
Cast: Mel Gibson, Madeleine Stowe, Taylor Momsen, Sam Elliott 
 
We Were Soldiers tells the true story of a group of Cavalry Scouts (1st Cavalry) fight in "the valley of death" during the Battle of Ia Drang on November, 1965. This was the first major conflict in Vietnam involving U.S. troops. Not long into the fight, the soldiers are ambushed by the enemy. Think of this as Black Hawk Down...but in a jungle. This is probably one of the more depressing war movies I've seen. The film depicts the heavy losses the cavalry took during the battle and the affects of their wives back home. In fact, the movie does a good job with the roles played by both Col Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) and his wife Julia Moore during the war. Moore lead his men into battle, and his wife back home let her friends know how their fallen husbands. Both of them constantly having a difficult time but playing their role. Unfortunately I can't watch this movie with my girlfriend because it makes her sad.
 
As a fellow Cavalrymen, I feel like I have some weird personal connection with the event. This movie does have a lot of neat Cav Scout history in it if you're one yourself, or are interested in those soldiers. 
 

Real world results of the fight:

This battle was widely used as a lesson for both sides. The American Army and Marines starting using more helicopters, artillery and combat air support. The Viet Cong learned that in order to defeat Americans they had to attack in close combat, quickly and aggressively in large numbers. The battle was considered a draw with neither side making any real progress in the war. U.S. took nearly 350 fatalities and over 300 wounded during the two day battle.
 

How I'll apply this film to my life: Fire is bad.

 

 

2. Hurt Locker (2009)

 
 
   
 
Conflict: Post-Invasion Iraq
Based on a True Story: Conflict only, plot is mostly fiction. A lot of the events in the movie were inspired by real-world events witnessed by the writer.
Based on a book: No
Directed By: Kathryn Bigelow 
Cast: Jeremy Renner, Anthony Mackie, Brian Geraghty 
Awards: Various independent awards and honors. 2010 BAFTA -- best film, editing, directors, screen play, cinematography, and sound. Nominated for 9 Academy Award including Best Picture and Best Director.

Unlike my past-listings, Hurt Locker isn't depressing, it doesn't show large amounts of American-related deaths, it isn't even a major war-turning conflict, nor does it focus on the violence of war but the absence of violence in war. The movie revolves around a three-man EOD team, risk-taker Sergeant First-Class James, no-bullshit Sergeant Sanborn, and rookie Specialist Eldridge. The main theme of the script is the addictive nature of combat, set up by a simple powerful quote from author Chris Hedges: “War is a drug.”
 
The film focuses on the dynamics among the men when the set out on missions. Hurt Locker is jammed-packed with intense memorable moments that'll leave you on the edge of your seat. This isn't really an action movie, but more of a thriller. 
 
How I'll apply this film to my life: Just shoot at bombs with .50 cal and call it a day.
 

1. Band of Brothers (2001)

  
 
 
10 -- 1hr Episode mini-series. 
Obviously not a movie, but my current title for this blog is short and good enough.
 
Conflict: Allies invasion of Nazi-occupied France, then Germany toward the end of the series. 
Based on a True Story: Yes
Based on a book: Yes
Directed by: Various people directed different episodes. Most notably, Tom Hawks, Phil Alden Robinson, and David Frankel.
Cast: David Schwimmer, Damian Lewis, Ron Livingston, Donnie Wahlberg
 
Band of Brothers is a mini-series depicting Easy Company's (101st Airborne) role in World War II. It stars with their jump-training, then leads into D-Day, Market Garden, Battle of the Bulge the Holocaust and eventually the entry into Germany and the ending of the European war. The series is praised for its historical accuracy. The real-world Easy-Company soldiers were used as technical advisers for the series, and each episode was approved by the surviving soldiers before airing. All the show's characters are based on actual members of Easy Company. Each episode also opens with pre-recorded interviews of the surviving soldiers telling their tale of the episode's interpretation you're about to watch.  Each episode had a $12 million budget. 
 
I could go on and on regarding how awesome Band of Brother is, but it's something you should see for yourself. This is one of the only examples of film in which I honestly knew how the characters felt and what they were thinking. The action is well-directed, and the show is also well-paced. Some scenes are light-hearted and funny, others are depressing and horrifying. From the presentation to the acting, Band of Brothers is fantastic in nearly every way. 
 
It's easy to see why Band of Brothers is highly acclaimed and is considered HBO's best series to date. It tells a gritty and realistic tale of heroes and their struggle against the German army. It honors the soldier's tale and reveals some of the darkest events in American history. I tip my hat to everyone involved in this project and the men of the 101st. 
 
Real world results of the fight: Easy Company was arguably the most useful tool during the war. They've killed countless Nazi soldiers and captured important towns, roads, and other strategic strongholds. They've saved the lives of other units many times and have endured grueling circumstances. 
 
How I'll apply this series to my life: Well, I'm doing the Airborne thing. Close enough, right? 
 
You should also watch: Apocalypse Now, Generation Kill and Full Metal Jacket.
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I wasn't that much of a fan of The Hurt Locker and We Were Soldiers, but everything else on your list, I couldn't agree more with. I definitely cannot wait until The Pacific comes out, Band of Brothers is one of my all time favorite series.

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Edited By Bombs_Away

Quite surprised no one's given Kelly's Heroes a mention yet. That film's a classic. Overall pretty cool list man.

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@EpicSteve said:
" @Binman88 said:
" Definitely agree with BoB at the top. Watched the series over a weekend in early 2008 and was fascinated every step of the way. I also agree with your second place for The Hurt Locker. Different from your average war movie, and I found it thrilling from start to finish. I would personally place Black Hawk Down third on that list (possibly joint second), because I was bored to tears half an hour into We Were Soldiers - obviously you have your reasons for liking it. Never seen Saving Private Ryan, funnily enough, despite it's popularity. "
Duder, Saving Private Ryan is practically Band of Brother the movie. Speilburg and Tom Hawks brought both of them out, they have the same gritty/grainy style, and share a similar tone. "

TOM HAWKS!!!!
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@Bombs_Away said: 
I love Kellys Heroes its a great film.  
 
Not a bad list except for We Were Soldiers but you have a good reason for liking it.
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Edited By therabidfrog

This list leaves out more than 5 decades of war movies. There are better films than these. 

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Edited By TheFreeMan

Good list, although I would have put Platoon somewhere in there, personally.

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@Meowayne said:
Grave of the Fireflies 


100 gold pieces for you sir. 
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Edited By Skytylz

Good list heres mine, i haven't seen hurt locker yet by the way

5: We Were Soldiers
4:The Patriot
3:  Band of Brothers
2. Black Hawk down
1.Saving Private Ryan

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I'm one of the few that never watched Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, and Platoon. I watch the trailers online and they look so rough.
 
I'd personally always argue for Saving Private Ryan to be #1 on any movie list. I don't know about The Hurt Locker... too many macho moments. Band of Brothers is amazing the first time watching, but playback is so tedious (I just fast-forward to action scenes).
 
My gut-reaction list would go...
5. Letters From Iwo Jima
4. We Were Soldiers
3. 300
2. Black Hawk Down
1. Saving Private Ryan

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@Hashbrowns said:
"Braveheart and Lawrence of Arabia, but I can see why they might not be classified as war movies. "

Lawrence of Arabia is fantastic, and wicked long, its by all means a war movie, the war is just very different from other wars. 
 
I like alot of the older war movies though, A Bridge Too Far, The Great Escape (I suppose thats a Prisoner of war movie), and Patton. But all the ones on your list are great too.
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1) The Longest Day - Saving Private Ryan may have the better D-day opening scene but The Longest Day is more thorough, also the movie has 42 star actors.
2) Paths of Glory - Easily the best WW I film and the best movie about a war before WWII
3) M*A*S*H* - Because if you are going to make a Vietnam film why not make it funny?
4) Glory - This isn't on here for it's message about racial equality it's a good war movie also.
5) Waltz with Bashir - I like to always have a dark horse movie when I make a list and this movie isn't getting the attetion it deserves.

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Battlefield Earth blows all these movies out the water.

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Gettysburg, Good Morning Vietnam, Sargent York, The Bunker and Pearl Harbor are some pretty good war movies.

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Letters from Iwo Jima, Black Hawk Down and Saving Private Ryan were all very good war movies that I've watched. There are obviously many that I still need to watch.

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I saw a bit of Saving Private Ryan today. my brother told me the beginning was one of the best battle scenes of all time. he was not lying. i mean, my god.. 

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To OP Saving Private Ryan is actually based loosely on a true story. There were a group of brothers who enlisted during WW2. Two survived and two didn't, so it's not quite the same but it is very similar.
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I actually agree with you, Band of Brothers was amazing.

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I like your choices here, though Band of Brothers is technically not a movie, per se. However, Apocalypse Now is one of my favorites ever so I would have liked to see it. Nice blog though :)

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YOU NEED TO WATCH "WALTZ WITH BASHIR" 
 
Sorry for the caps lock/bold lettering, but yeah, you need to see that film. Shit is powerful. Easily the best movie dealing with the effects of war (rather than actual conflict scenes) out there. So yeah, watch it. Pretty please.. 
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Das Boot. 
Thin Red Line. 
Apocalypse Now. 
MASH. 
Full Metal Jacket.
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@RHCPfan24 said:
" I like your choices here, though Band of Brothers is technically not a movie, per se. However, Apocalypse Now is one of my favorites ever so I would have liked to see it. Nice blog though :) "
lol. I'm surprised it took 60 comments before someone called me out on Band of Brothers not being a movie. I knew this going in, but I wouldn't really know how to title the blog while keeping it simple and understandable. 
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Good list, althoughI think it's kinda cheating putting Band of Brothers on there.

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i really really liked letters from iwo jima

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The Deer Hunter for me, I find the affects of war more interesting than the "pew pew" of it.

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Platoon remains my number one war movie by far. Nothing else comes close for me.

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You forgot Forrest Gump.
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@EpicSteve said:
" @Andheez said:
" Good choices  EXCEPT - We Were Soldiers................that movie SUCKED. "
Like I said, I have personal tides with that movie being in the same job, unit, and so forth. 
 
Those of you suggesting Das Boot, I haven't seen that movie. @chstupid said:
" Nothing before WW2? "
Can you suggest anything aside from The Patriot that's good? I would really love to see some WWI movie or something. "

I cant think of any WWI movies that were any good but I really liked Glory
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Joyeux Noel is an interesting WWI movie.
 
 

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Your missing Flags of our Fathers and/or Letters to Iwo Jima.
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How could no one mention

Hamburger Hill ! 

It was a badass war movie on par with Platoon. 
 
My absolute favoritewar movie 

The Great Escape


 also Good Morning, Vietnam not so much fighting but sill I loved it
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@phlegms said:
" YOU NEED TO WATCH "WALTZ WITH BASHIR"  Sorry for the caps lock/bold lettering, but yeah, you need to see that film. Shit is powerful. Easily the best movie dealing with the effects of war (rather than actual conflict scenes) out there. So yeah, watch it. Pretty please..  "
Yes.
@RoujinX said:
" Thin Red Line. "
And yes.
 
Great list, though.
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Letters from Iwo Jima    
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Some of the aforementioned excluded movies would be on my list, but the biggest omission by my reckoning would be Glory.  That movie makes me tear up every time I see it.  I only read the first two pages, so maybe I missed it.

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Band of Brothers is by far the best.
So much so that I can't even really be bothered to think of the next four.
 
Can't wait for The Pacific.

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I made a lengthy list back in this thread: Favorite Epic War Movies. But, if I was to narrow it down to just 5...

  1. The Longest Day (1962) -  All-star retelling of the Normandy landing in 1944 
  2. The Deer Hunter (1978) -  Robert DeNiro, John Savage & Christopher Walken go to Vietnam and are deeply changed from the experience  
  3. The Great Escape (1963) - All-star cast attempt to escape from a German P.O.W. camp during WW2. 
  4. Patton (1970) -  George C Scott plays the controversial general who defined armored warfare for America during World War 2. 
  5. The Guns of Navarone (1961) -  Gregory Peck must sneak into a hidden German artillery emplacement and destroy it before it fires on an Allied convoy. 
 
And, I'm going to add 5 more because sometime war is fun!  
  1. Operation Petticoat (1959) -  Cary Grant leads a crew of misfits aboard a US submarine patrolling the Pacific Ocean in WW2.  
  2. Stripes (1981) - Bill Murray and Ivan Reitman join the army and steal the latest weapon...an R.V.
  3. Kelly's Heroes (1970) -  Eastwood leads a group of misfits behind enemy lines to steal a 40,000 bars of Nazi gold. 
  4. Buck Privates (1941) -  Abbott and Costello are recruits in the Army Airforce just prior to US involvement in the war.  Andrew Sisters co-star.
  5. Father Goose (1964) -  Cary Grant is a drunken misanthrope forced into being a spotter for the Royal Navy then he rescues a school teacher & her students... 
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I think there's a reason why everyone else has Full Metal Jacket and no one else has The Hurt Locker. I mean it's a decent film and I don't want to crap on the topic, but...Full Metal Jacket.

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@PenguinDust: 
You're old, eh?
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I have yet to watch The Hurt Locker but I recently read an article about soldiers impressions of the movie, and they say it is one of the more inaccurate depictions to date.
 
I still want to see it, hope it doesn't interfere with my potential enjoyment.

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Wow... no: 
 
Platoon 
Apocolypse Now 
Deer Hunter (my favorite) 
Das Boot 
3 Kings (fun flick) 
Red Dawn 
Tears of the Sun 
Full Metal Jacket 
 
All of these would have been good choices.
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I agree wit your list... except i would have included Jarhead... that film seems to rarely get the credit it deserves 

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@EpicSteve said:
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Those of you suggesting Das Boot, I haven't seen that movie. @chstupid said:

" Nothing before WW2? "

Can you suggest anything aside from The Patriot that's good? I would really love to see some WWI movie or something. "
Zulu... that film is pretty good
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Good list, even though I haven't seen "We were Soldiers" I would have included Letters from Iwo Jima on that list

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Before reading your post, I was thinking of suggesting Band Of Brothers even though it's not really a movie, but a 10 part mini-series. I was glad to see you put it on the very top of your list, as I think it might be the definitive war movie/series. That's how well executed I think it is!

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Nice list. I haven't seen Hurt locker, but the 4 others are genius.

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@EpicSteve: I'm not surprised Bravo Two Zero isn't on your list. Check it out, it's right up your alley.
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Black Hawk Down and We were Soldiers are both on my IPOD touch. Plus, the second the Pacific becomes availabe on Itunes, I'm buying it. I don't have HBO  :(.
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wait, how is the hurt locker better than saving private ryan?

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Saving Private Ryan is my all time favorite war movie, hands down.

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5. Band of Brothers
4. Apocalypse Now
3. Hurt Locker/Generation Kill
2. Paths of Glory
1. Brave Heart