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From everything I've played so far, and I'm about 125 hours in so far, I haven't seen anything that I would call transphobic at all. I'm starting to think it's all based on the marketing and nothing that's really in the game, I guess.

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@plan6 said:

It is important to remember that CDProject Red went public is 2018, three years AFTER they released the Witcher 3. And from all reporting, that is the change that caused this game to get kicked out the door in an unfinished state. Unreasonable time lines from the people at the top, even as they were told the game would not be ready.

I wasn't aware of that. It makes sense, though. I think CDPR took what was a great book series that hadn't crossed over, and by the time The Witcher 3 came out...I don't know, I can't think of as small beginning that led to such a meteoric rise in financial and critical success as that. The hype building towards that game, and then it's release was kind of nuts, too.

But, they became a huge financial success with that game, too. So, the company then going public afterwards...does explain alot.

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@fugoy said:

I always saw this as CDPR trying to do the ultimate make good move of just allowing refunds all the way down. The problem is retailers fucking HATE doing that and have so many different plans in place to prevent them that just saying to them "Let people refund our game" pisses them off extraordinarily.

True.

I think it hurts retailers, like the people in suits who run them hurt...physically pains them...the idea of giving back money they've just gotten. It's always the idea of looking reasonable while trying to do whatever they can from not having to give the money back.

Which, I think is probably the thing that triggered Sony to delist it. CDPR was publicly promising refunds, something that Sony did not want to have to do. That much is clear. So much so that they were starting to look bad with the widespread stories of Playstation owners being denied refunds.

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#5  Edited By firecracker22

Well, yeah...we knew the first batch of DLC was going to be free anyway.

I think whatever talks or hints at the larger, expansive DLC later down the road is going to be so fucking precarious they'll need some fucking masterminds on how to even approach the subject with consumers. And that's assuming they've fixed the stuff with the game by then, because I cannot imagine a scenario where they don't do so and still try to spin out a new expansion.

I'm pretty sure, for example, that they've gotta unveil a sixth attribute. No idea if that was going to be an update or something rolled out with a story DLC, like some of the new abilities and mutations in The Witcher 3's Blood and Wine DLC.

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@panfoot said:

The only other times I can remember something like this happening was Arkham Knight PC and Afro Samurai 2(which was straight up cancelled and I think killed the studio, the game was there only release...or well, was there only release for as long as it existed). Real curious to see if Microsoft follows suit.

Yeah, that's the only thing that comes to mind that even comes close. And the shitstorm that came with Arkham Knight's nightmare of a PC launch was pretty big. It's mostly forgotten now, because it seems like the game runs like a dream now as far as I know...but at the time, when it was happening...jeez, I remember how pissed so many people were.

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@plan6 said:

You will still get updates. New people can’t buy it.

Whew.

As long as that's the case, I'm good.

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#8  Edited By firecracker22

@junkerman: Hmmm. Not sure if it matters, but I think Cyberpunk 2077 and Valhalla both come with free PS5 versions outright, I think. Valhalla already has a next gen version, but the next gen PS5 version for Cyberpunk is supposed to come out next year.

Maybe. I guess now that it was delisted maybe that might not happen? Maybe? Shit, I don't know.

So, that might be worth noting in the equation, maybe.

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So....this means that the next patch for the game I won't get, right? If the game is delisted, then the updates won't get pushed out since it's technically not an official PS4 game...?

Definitely feels like this is Sony sending a fuck you to Sony. I get the vibe that lately Sony was seeming like the bad guys with people because of the refusal to offer refunds. So, kinda feels like they just went nuclear here.

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