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@supamon said:

@FlarePhoenix

@supamon said:

I'd say just stop before Buu saga. My memory is a little fuzzy so but I don't remember anything really remarkable that isn't repeated again and again besides the escalation in collateral damage.

Come on, the Buu Saga (well Fusion Saga specifically) has Buu fighting against a ball of candy. That was all kinds of awesome!

Haha c'mon! Buu turns nearly EVERYONE into food and eats them. Sure it's funny and amusing but it's the most jarring thing to watch where a lot of characters die anti-climatically as food.

Yes, but it is still awesome when the candy fights back. Am I wrong? :P

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@Renahzor said:

@PillClinton: I don't think either violent games or guns are "worse" than one another. And you're correct, our differences are I wouldn't be willing to force anyone to give up either, because in responsible hands they're both perfectly fine, and such are the protections afforded US citizens.

No, guns are inherently worse than video games and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Tools are nether good nor evil.

If an evil thing is something that can only cause harm in its use, then guns, nukes, anthrax, and more human-made tools of destruction contradict your point.

Real guns kill people. Video game guns do not. A company linking the two and focusing on "authenticity" in their entertainment product built around regenerating health, nameless enemies, and corridor shooting--that is a company acting unethically.

Do not buy this game or any like it.

Isn't the bullet the thing that technically kills people?

@Animasta said:

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@ajamafalous said:

@FlarePhoenix said:

Also, it was pretty clear from your post you wanted to watch them the easiest way possible regardless of legality.

That's not even almost true. I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post or any more replies from you because you're just acting like an asshole for the sake of it.

Even if you ignore the whole youtube bit , you still asked whether any other websites had it and you didn't specify streaming or downloading (torrent or otherwise). That is piracy.

so, did he have to specify? linking illegal content is forbidden on this site anyway so he was obviously looking for legal stuff.

and if you really think content holders have to spend so much time taking shit down on youtube, get real; I was watching a kim possible episode that was uploaded like early last year. Sometimes they literally don't care enough to take them down

Just because the rules are in place doesn't mean everyone automatically follows them. I mean how many youtube spam threads do we get, despite their being a rule against it and each and every time the thread gets locked? As I said, he asked about netflix AND any fan sites that may have it which means he was looking into both legal and illegal options.

I never said they had to spend so much time taking stuff down on youtube; I said that because so many different people will upload something if it is popular enough, content holders wouldn't have the time to track down each and every instance of their work on Youtube. Therefore the argument of "well if they really wanted it taken down, they would have taken it down" really doesn't hold a whole lot of water. Besides, time isn't really a factor: you can get some copyrighted videos that last less than a week, or you can get some videos that last a couple of years before finally getting taken down.

@supamon said:

I'd say just stop before Buu saga. My memory is a little fuzzy so but I don't remember anything really remarkable that isn't repeated again and again besides the escalation in collateral damage.

Come on, the Buu Saga (well Fusion Saga specifically) has Buu fighting against a ball of candy. That was all kinds of awesome!

@ajamafalous said:

@FlarePhoenix said:

Also, it was pretty clear from your post you wanted to watch them the easiest way possible regardless of legality.

That's not even almost true. I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post or any more replies from you because you're just acting like an asshole for the sake of it.

Even if you ignore the whole youtube bit , you still asked whether any other websites had it and you didn't specify streaming or downloading (torrent or otherwise). That is piracy.

@ll_Exile_ll said:

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@villainy said:

gamesages.com?

I think that was it, thanks dude

Was that it? Or are you just convincing yourself that was it so you don't have to think about it anymore? :P

No, that was definitely it

I'm just a little bored, so I was seeing if I could get in your head a little. Sorry about that :P.

@ajamafalous said:

@FlarePhoenix said:

@ajamafalous said:

Point out where I mentioned pirating anything, please.

@ajamafalous said:

Anyone know the best place to watch? I started from the beginning of Dragon Ball like four years ago and got to episode ~55 or so but then ran out of free time. I was just watching each episode in like three parts on youtube and that was kind of a pain. Is youtube where I should be? Are they on Netflix? Is there some other DB fansite that has them all archived?

I bolded the relevant parts for you.

Have you ever listened to a song or watched a music video, commercial, TV show's theme song, etc. on youtube that wasn't uploaded by the original copyright holder? By your definition that's piracy, and you're absolutely lying if you say you haven't. If the rights holders cared they'd take it down; NBC and VEVO do it all the time. I even mentioned Netflix so I think it's pretty clear that I'm willing to pay for it and I'm not looking for a fucking torrent or something. I'm honestly offended you'd even insinuate that.

Yes, everything you mentioned IS piracy. A lot of those videos do get taken down, but more and more people keep uploading them and it gets to a point where it is not worth the time and money to keep getting them taken down. Also, it was pretty clear from your post you wanted to watch them the easiest way possible regardless of legality.

Although I would like to see that in court

Judge: You are charged with stealing a car.

Defendant: Judge! Have you eaten a grape without paying for it at the supermarket? By your definition that's stealing, and you're absolutely lying if you say you haven't!

Judge: Well... umm... crap... you have me there. Case dismissed!

@ll_Exile_ll said:

@villainy said:

gamesages.com?

I think that was it, thanks dude

Was that it? Or are you just convincing yourself that was it so you don't have to think about it anymore? :P

@notdavid said:

@FlarePhoenix said:

As for DBGT, I'd say it is definitely worth a look but I wouldn't go in with high expectations. The series had an incredibly poor start, and the show was cancelled not long after it started (I'm not sure of the exact timeline, but it was fairly quick). The only reason the show lasted as long as it did was because they wanted it to still be airing when the accompanying video game was released.

Each saga has some interesting ideas, and the show does actually follow up on some plot threads DBZ opened but never went anywhere with, but the show unfortunately has a stronger focus on comedy than action. It also completely missed what made DBZ so awesome which was, in my opinion, the hand-to-hand combat rather than the beam-spamming (If I recall correctly, there is like maybe one or two fights that aren't just entirely beam-spamming).

I'm loving how lighthearted the first series is so far, and I like lasers. If GT is more of that, I'm on board.

I don't know if I would say lighthearted, so much as just plain drug-inducing. For example, there is an episode where Goku, Trunks and Pan are forced to dance against their will, an episode where Goku has to play a board game, and, I forgot to mention, Goku is a kid throughout the entire series.

@Petiew said:

@FlarePhoenix: I just obviously wasn't paying enough attention then. Fair enough point, since it could put a different spin on material someone is already familiar with. I guess personally I just couldn't suffer through all of that again. Coming home from school to see Saiyaman fighting thugs again killed me inside. (Not really, but I found it really tedious even back then.)

I don't know why, but all of that never really bothered me. I think because it was what I actually started with when I watched Dragon Ball Z. I remember the first episode I ever saw was "Big Trouble for Bulma" where Bulma is getting chased around by two of Frieza's goons on Namek. I didn't go back to the show for a while after that. In fact, the only reason I ever watched it again was because the next episode I just happened to catch was "Save the World". That episode, despite the fact I had zero context, hooked me into the show.

So, of course, the first complete sagas I really saw were the Other World Tournament, Great Saiyaman, and so on.