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But these versions aren't just a package with all of the DLC, If they were I wouldn't have this conversation. They include graphical enhancements and sometimes new gameplay. Something in my opinion should be updated into the original version and not re-released as a seperate game. The main problem here for me is that developers are treating a PC the same way as a console, which they aren't. If you want a next generation console you need to buy one, if I want a better PC I just buy a new video card. In order for me to get the improved graphics (which I think should be taken as a grain of salt) I need to re-purchase the game instead of getting it as an update. Usually I get it at a discounted price because I already have the game, but still.

I have gotten the impression that in this year's dry gaming season on the next generation of platforms, which I assume is now called current generation? Instead of spending time on new exciting and refreshing games they are doing these remastering of older games. Now that concept is completely fine to me, but the problem is that these games are only a year or two old. I mean do we really need to see an already great game on the Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 now boasted to run in a higher resolution on Xbox One and Playstation 4? Games like Tomb Raider, Last of Us, Metro 2033, Metro Last Light and Sleeping Dogs. You know what, fine. I am sure plenty of people thinks that is OK as long as the price is right. More people get to play it too so that's thumbs up. But the old-gen to new-gen thing isn't exactly what I am going to write about. No, It's these "old" PC gen to the "new" PC gen, yes.

So why do I have a problem with these? Because usually games on PC for the last year or two are already running in higher resolutions, textures, greater shadows, more density and of course higher framerates. So what is the point of these remastering-definite-complete-redux editions coming out for the PC? I already know the answer to this and probably you do as well.

For me it all started with the Deus Ex Human Revolution: Director's Cut. A game that does not necessarily fit perfectly in in what I am going to write about. 75% off on Steam because I already had the original. Great! So what do I get? "Improved" graphics (and I put graphics in quotation because it was a direct port from the Wii U version and it looked terrible in comparison), better gameplay, the ability to sneak past boss fights, all of the DLC (which I already had so, uh, thanks?) and listening to the developers talking poor English. What a great deal that was, well no not really. But you know, It is still Deus Ex and it's a good game I think. But my point is that I spent €9 for an "upgrade" that was really a downgrade, so now we have Sleeping Dogs: Definite Edition coming out for the next (current) generation of platforms and the PC, aswell as Metro 2033 & Last Light, also coming to the PC, again!

Both Metro 2033 and Last Light looks amazing on the PC, and now it is coming as this "Redux" version running it in 1080p at 60fps. Well guess what, the original did that already on the PC platform so I have no idea what is up with these remastering. But wait, we get all of the DLC including "never seen content and new animations." But I am not going to spend (€20! and that's 50% off) on this package for both games just for that. And these games are also boasted "better graphics". I don't understand this, It was already pushing new PC hardware off the roof when it first came out, so now we get even better graphics? Or do we get a Deus Ex: Director's Cut Syndrome, where the developers are saying one thing, but the graphics is designed for a console and the PC version will actually look worse?

And finally the Definite Edition of Sleeping Dogs was just announced. And the same freakin' thing here, it will come out on the PC. For people who played Sleeping Dogs on PC, it was already running in 1920x1080p at 60 frames per second (you could even get it at higher resolutions than that aswell as higher framerates) It also came with this "high resolution pack" for free, and if your hardware is good enough you can enable SS-anti aliasing, and that game still looks at this date & time very good. I guess I just need to wait for these games to come out before judging. Hopefully they will actually be *gasp* better.

So why not do this: Release remastered games on platforms that needs it. Let the "improved graphics" be a free update to the already version (see CDprojekt Red as Reference). And release new content as a seperate DLC for a price? Well that's my thoughts. I guess people will be split about this. I cannot speak for you but I am corious about what you guys think. Feel free to share your thoughts about these new remasters, both for consoles and PC if you wish.

Very interesting, but unfortunately it did not work for me as I don't use a secondary internet browser, I only use Internet Explorer and it is already set to default operating browser.

For anyone using multiple browsers try this out:

• Option 1: go to "standardprograms" by typing it in search (swipe right on Windows 8). At the top it should say something like "set standardprogram", and in there I think you should see Chrome. So click on that and set it as standard. Restart Steam and see if it helped.
• Option 2: Click the Chrome menu toolbar and click settings. It should be a section for "Default Browsers" and in there you should be able to change Chrome to the default browser. Now restart Steam Client.

I think I got the information I needed. And to conclude; it seems pretty much the games I want on PC (Dragon Age: Inquisition, Far Cry 4, Assassin's Creed: Unity, The Sims 4 and The Witcher 3 [49,99 as pre-order]) are same prices as consoles (€60 £50). So I think this is, or will be, normal pricing for AAA games on PC. Because of this I will be waiting or purchasing retail because every game are actually cheaper there, and they also include these pre-order-things aswell as steelboxes, manuals, maps, soundtrack et cetera.

Thank you all for contributing.

OK, so it's just with Ubisoft and EA games? I did only pay 39,99 for Divinity (great game by the way). I do would like to know why they increased the price to 60 though. I mean do they cost more to develop? And what I find strange is that I can get both Unity and Far Cry 4 for much cheaper retail, with boxset and pre-order bonuses, I just don't understand why digital has to cost so much more when they offer less.

So I was strolling Steampowered today and saw you could pre-order both Assassin's Creed: Unity and Far Cry 4. To my surprise both games cost 60 Euros, which is the equivalent of 80 US dollars. This isn't exactly the first time I've seen this, it was the same with Watch Dogs - another Ubisoft game - however that game had a 49,99 price-point if you pre-ordered it. I used to see new PC games at 30-40 Euros, but now they're at least 50, and if it's available to consoles, 60. So when did PC games cost just as much as a next generation console game? Or is this something Ubisoft are pushing forward now? Whatever it is I don't like it especially from a developer who can't develop games properly for PC's.

For both these games I will definitely wait for a price cut as they wont see me paying full price, but what about you?

If someone could give me a hint(s) on how to deafeat Braccus Rex then that would be great. I've tried for hours total and I cannot do it, I am at Level 9. Since this is a spoiler free thread I just want tips, or feel free to send me a private message instead.

Going through adobe's download page for Flash Player just redirects me to troubleshoot Windows 8 Flash Player. Doing some research, it seems this particular issue with Steam happened indeed after the recent update and more people have reported it: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3250695 .While there's probably some ways to temporarily fix this, primarily for Windows 8 users, I think Valve has to release a new update that will target this problem. I mean it's not a major issue. Until then I will keep this thread open for suggestions to users who wants this fixed without Valve and to people searching after this recent problem.

Did it happen after the recent update for you too? The one that should:

• Fixed potential exploit reported in CVE-2014-4609

I am also just using Internet Explorer, and I also forgot to mention that this happens on every game tab featuring a video. Setting the PC in hibernation or doing a system restart doesn't help, so I think something went wrong when they updated the Steam Client for Windows 8 users and/or people not using Chrome. Are you using Windows 8 too?

So I was looking up information about Divinity: Original Sin and I was thinking on purchasing it from Steam. I went to the game's Steam page through the installed client and this strange thing happened: "You need the latest version of Flash Player plugin to view this page correctly". I couldn't even check out the pictures. It was working just fine before so this must have happened after an update? I got an update today. What's even stranger is that I have no plugin installed since on Windows 8 you get Flash Player built in, but it was working just fine without it. So does anyone else have this issue as of late? Or is the flash player messed up? I am using Windows 8.1 Update with flash player 14.0.0.145. Steampowered website seems to work as it should though.