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#1  Edited By heraldthemoth

I was just wondering why so many Americans seem to dislike Socialism - many call it "European Socialism".  Many equate it to Communism (which it isn't: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism).  Are a lot of Americans selfish? Are most okay with not giving money to the government to take care of other people who are down on their luck as long as they are doing well themselves? 
 
I get the feeling that the mentality is "Fuck the poor, jobless, or sick people. They can go kill themselves for all I care, because as long as I get my HDTV and nice car I don't give a crap." 
 
What are your thoughts on this? 

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@Bourbon_Warrior said:

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Actually it's 46 million give or take for the Nazis but who cares about facts right?

60-75 million total in WW2 which you could tack on to Hitler as he started it all!

The Nazis had nowhere close to 46 million deaths under their belt. And you can't pin all of WWII entirely on the Nazis. There was still the whole East Asian theater of war that was going on with Imperialist Japan wrecking shit up, you know. Yeah, who cares about facts, right?

Uh Yeah they did, the 11 million figure you are talking about is Jews being killed in concentration camps. The rest is Allie deaths, civilian casualties and Jews being killed on the spot. And yeah I can blame what Japan did on Hitler aswell as they became Allies in 1940 with Hitler saying Japan could take over Asia where Germany was going to take Europe. Germany supplied alot of weapons to Japan in this time. So it all stems from Hitler so next time check your facts before you create a Hitler aint so bad thread.

 
Dude, no. There has never been a figure as high as 12,000,000 for Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps. The generally accepted figure is 6,000,000.  The Nazis were responsible for near 11,000,000 noncombatants, which can be raised to slightly over 12,000,000 if you count the people who died from starvation, deportation, etc. Even if you include the total American losses in WWII (which was 400,000 + and more of them being caused by Japan) as well as the Russians (with 3,000,000 dying in Nazi POW camps being the generally accepted figure by historians), it still doesn't come close to that 46 million number you pulled out of your behind. 
 
And you can blame what Japan did on Hitler? You seriously need to take a history class. Germany wasn't the only nation that had supplied Japan, hell, Japan had been supplied by primarily by the USA before Japan and the USA got into conflict, thus the USA indirectly helped Japan in its capability to screw over China.  So you're saying that the Second-Sino Japanese war was Hitler's fault? The Rape of Nanjing was Hitler's fault? Unit 731 was Hitler's fault? You most likely believe in the boogeyman, huh? 
 
Get real dude, this isn't a 'Hitler aint so bad thread' as you say it is. In fact, in my OP I said anyone wearing Nazi merchandise would deserve to get their ass kicked if it happened to them. But there are PLENTY of reasons to despise the Nazis without having to make up false history like you're doing. 
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@Bourbon_Warrior said:

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Actually it's 46 million give or take for the Nazis but who cares about facts right?

60-75 million total in WW2 which you could tack on to Hitler as he started it all!

The Nazis had nowhere close to 46 million deaths under their belt.  And you can't pin all of WWII entirely on the Nazis. There was still the whole East Asian theater of war that was going on with Imperialist Japan wrecking shit up, you know. Yeah, who cares about facts, right?
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People can walk around with Stalin and Mao merchandise? What?
Yeah, I see it all the time here in California. It's mostly college students doing it, at least it's what I get from my own perception of things.
That's Che Guevara, not Josef Stalin.
I know the difference between Che Guevara and Stalin -_-
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Watch any action movie from the 80s and try and tell me that.

Even still, it's a short time period of when anti-communist movies were around. The percentage of movies coming out on a regular basis about communists are mere peanuts compared to the anti-nazi movies. Even the History Channel has a bigger fixation on everything Nazi related whereas they don't focus as much on communist atrocities. 
 
@EquitasInvictus: You make a good point. 
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People can walk around with Stalin and Mao merchandise? What?
Yeah, I see it all the time here in California. It's mostly college students doing it, at least it's what I get from my own perception of things.
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In modern times, people can walk around with Stalin or Mao merchandise and people wouldn't think twice about it. But if someone were to wear Hitler merchandise, he would get the crap kicked out of him lickity split (and rightfully so). A large part of that has to do with ignorance about the atrocities of the communists, because there are very few anti-communist movies about them. Hollywood mainly puts out anti-Nazi movies when targeting a specific ideology, yet rarely addresses the atrocities of communism even though communist leaders killed millions more people than the Nazis. There are many who were adversely affected by communism and many more people have relatives killed by commies than nazis, and I think they deserve more recognition from the media. 

 
Mao killed about 60 million 
Stalin killed about 20 million 
Hitler killed about 12 million 
 
Commies have 68,000,0000 + more kills than the Nazis at the very least.  

So why do you think there are so few anti-communist movies?   

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Eh, most were obviously staged which made them not funny. Also, the OP lead me to believe he was going to share mishaps of his own.

Overal, 2/10.

whatchoo talkin' bout willis? this thread is hilarious.