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@JasonR86:

1) How far within your body is the heart normally located? If it is only a couple of inches in, then I don't find it that unlikely that one of the stabs could have got past he bone and muscle and nick the heart. I don't really know much about human anatomy, so I really can't scientifically say it is possible. It's just looking at my pocket knife(which I just measured and it is around 3 inches), it does't seem that unlikely that it could nick the heart. Though since I can't argue scientifically, I'll give this one to you.

2) I don't like it either, but in the end the day the bully made the choices that led to his death. The kid wanted no part in this fight and I can't really blame him to much for being so freaked out that he was not able to tell difference between bully trying to hurt him and a bully punching him in self defense.

@JasonR86:

1) Not sure how long my pocket knife is, but I think it could kill someone if stabbed in the heart area.

2) The difference is that the bully put himself into that situation. If he hadn't have hit the boy he would have never gotten killed. From what I understand of the law, it basically says you can protect yourself with deadly force until attacker stop attacking you. If the the bully was still hitting him, even if it was in self defense, the boy was justified in the stabbings.

Now if the bully tried to run and the boy continued to stab then I totally agree, he should be punished. If all the stabs happened during the fight, the boy was justified.

@JasonR86:

1) The article describes the fatal blow nicked his heart. I don't find it improbable that a pocket knife could nick a heart.

2) Never said the bully went into a defense posture. I said the bully when on the offensive to protect himself. The kid not knowing he was punching him in defense instead of to bully, the kid kept stabbing.

@Wrighteous86 said:

@damnboyadvance: There are a lot of things I might do in the heat of the moment that I wouldn't do otherwise. That doesn't mean I wouldn't expect to be legally culpable, at least partially, for my actions in most of those situations.

You're all acting like we don't understand that the kid wasn't able to control his impulses and went a bit nuts on the bully. We're arguing that it shouldn't be an acceptable defense in court. There are plenty of people who have killed people breaking into their homes, and they got punished for it because the judge thought they went "too far" to justify self-defense. We don't know the details of this encounter, but they'd have to be pretty extraordinary to justify 12 stabbings.

@mariokart64fan: The bully's friends should be able to stab him now.

its pretty darn fair to me,

the guy killed their friend ,

Off the top of my head I can think of two situations where the 12 stabs would have been justified.

1. Given that the knife seemed to be a small pocket knife, the bully might have not even realized he had been stab until the fatal blows. Not realizing he had been stab he continued to beat up the boy. Since he was still being hit the boy kept stabbing. I read countless stories of people getting shot or stab and not realizing it until the fight is over, so I don't think this is that far fetched.

2. Once the bully realized he was being stabbed, he fought even harder to protect himself. Since the bully kept fighting, the kid kept stabbing.

Like you said, in the end we don't know the details of the fight so it hard to say whether the number of stabs was justified.

I honestly don't think that Betheda would make an MMO. Given how risky MMO seem to be and how successful the game they make are, they have no reason too.

Also, the horde aren't evil.

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Stories like this are why I will never use origins.

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