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That Kotaku blurb makes me want to vomit.

At least it's better than The Verge review who are complaining about the depiction of women in a period piece set in 1899... while simultaneously calling being a mother a "side role".

True, but when I said they aren't forced to do it, I was including that there's no sense of pressure/shame/guilt being bestowed upon them.

If that is the case, and they are being paid, then I think the crunch is fine. If people want the dollar let them get it.

1. Was this overtime paid?

2. Were people forced to work overtime?

3. How many of the people complaining about this own electronics like the iPhone made in Foxconn factories notorious for workers committing suicide?

Seems like a lot of people are getting upset over speculative information and not caring about the Asians being exploited every day as long as they keep supplying your latest gadgets. I know this is 'whataboutism' but it's still a relevant point. When a Telltale or Rockstar happens it seems to cause a furore but you're consuming content/products made in worse conditions every day.

I'm willing to bet most of the gaming journalists I see taking issue with what Rockstar said are still gonna buy the game and use it for site content & CPM. If you are gonna kick up a fuss at least stick to your convictions or be quiet if you still plan to profit from it, it feels very disingenuous.

If the answers to those first 2 questions are YES and NO, I see absolutely no problem with a 100 hour work week. They got a nice bonus for their hard work. Good for them! Get that dollar, a lot of companies pay a nice bonus when working outside of your regular shift. I get 25% extra during the day and 50% more at night.

I would also show restraint when bringing up what former employees of Rockstar said, you don't know if they were terminated or simply a bad fit at the company. It's kind of like reading Glassdoor reviews for your new job, how many of those bad reviews are from people who were just... bad? I'm not defending Rockstar because I don't know what is true and what isn't, it's just something you have to consider unless there's an overwhelming amount of negativity.

I don't understand people who want "crunch free development", if people chose to work those hours and got compensated then why are you trying to take away money from them? What business of yours is it? Ideally, Rockstar management told people there's gonna be a crunch period and if you agree to power through it you'll be paid a nice bonus through overtime. Again points 1 & 2 are very important in this conversation.

https://www.pcgamer.com/every-penis-in-assassins-creed-odyssey-rated/

I feel this is relevant to this topic. Can you imagine the outrage if this was about bust or rump size on female characters? From PC Gamer of all places, this isn't some niche horny site.

Men are allowed to be viewed as just meat spanning from Kotaku writing articles about the size of Luigi's cock to this nonsense. Bunch of hypocrites all over the net, I despise these gross articles.

This is the part where I would get called an MRA or accused of "whataboutism".

Damn it I am getting annoyed every time I see that PC Gamer link. This is why I stopped engaging on gaming sites because when stuff like this gets brought up there is so much unchecked hypocrisy and I cannot stand it...

No no no... I am going back in my bubble where I only listen to the Bombcast and Easy Allies and ignore garbage articles and forum debates, good day!! D:

Ann is also a model if I remember right so it feels out of place to complain about her being sexualised, that usually goes hand in hand with being a model.

@efesell: I'm sure a lot of us know women that wear clothing they complain about for being uncomfortable, e.g. heels and skirts on night outs, although can't remember if Ann found the suit uncomfortable because of the fit or just what she looks like in it...

@efesell: So what if they are wearing a bikini, some of the most horny anime and manga fans and/or doujin writers in Japan are women, pretending those people don't exist doesn't seem good to me. It's not nice when you aren't part of a core demographic and feel left wanting, but you don't have to engage with it.

I also don't remember being forced to use combat bikinis in any Persona game, the only thing I can think of is Panther's cat suit.

Some people just like seeing characters they like dressed in sexy outfits for a change. It's not for me, but never crossed my mind as 'gross', it's just pandering and making the most out of popular characters.

@acharlie1377: No problem, I don't really agree that any of it is a "problem" but I see the lame tropes, honestly most JRPGs are dumb like that in general to me. The better JRPGs in this world have some very good female characters (Persona!!) and the lesser ones rely a lot on the saving the process trope, it's tired but I don't think we need to eradicate it.

I would also hazard to guess a lot of this comes from the ...fact that women are (_biologically_) weaker than men and there's an innate desire for many to protect women which may contribute to these characters that need saving being created. But that's just me going quasi philosophical, although I do think that has some truth to it.

@suntoria: Well, not everybody is a dashingly handsome perfectly proportioned guy like most male protagonists. Yet it's always female characters being lambasted for not being "realistic" or representative of the average woman.

"male gaze" or not, men make up for a much bigger part of the gaming sphere and demographics are gonna be catered to whether we like it or not. That's just business.

Man, this is an annoying thread. So many bad takes from people who don't live in Japan, to the point I signed up just to call some of this crap out.

Men are sexualised/idolised as well. Why does everybody think it's OK to complain about Lara Croft being heavily "idolised" yet nobody says shit about Nathan Drake or Handsome Ripped Male Protagonist #231? Metal Gear Raiden's Skin Tight Ass.

It's OK to dislike the style and cleavage, as a male I personally don't care for it but I have seen a fucking lot of women/girls here very into it and I have never seen a country with more visible female gamers or nerds. Stop judging this country from your western lens. There is an over abundance of females here that love getting into some of the most ludicrous T&A showing cosplay imaginable.

Actually, it's awesome, I can go to a game centre and see guys and girls playing competitive Tekken or Gundam at 3am. Guys still outweigh girls but I appreciate the diversity here (well, not racial diversity... country is 98.5% Japanese).

This is not to say sexism is not a problem, domestic violence is higher than the average here but not too different to the US or UK and overall it's safer for women with less rape and violence.

One thing I have seen repeatedly is that women who cheat, are viewed as much worse than men who cheat, and this reminds me of the 'Becky' situation specifically. When men cheat, it's often laughed off, when women cheat, it's considered more shameful, exceptions exist.

But yeah, anime? Anime is not the place to start bringing up views on women in Japan. Stop using anime as a means for cultural critique because there are many strong female characters that shit over males and it is problematic to ignore actual problems in reallifein favour of getting annoyed over a character having "too much" cleavage.

The author of that post is not Japanese and the main point is about porno mags being on display at a waist-height shelf in convenience stores. Schoolgirls are sexualised heavily in porn, though actual schoolgirls are not forced to wear such short skirts and many choose to do so. There is a wide variation in skirt length.

As observed on many numerous occasions, men and women feel awkwardly incapable of participating in joint activities.

This is largely tied to adolescence and they grow out of it. With that being said, I see many, many junior high school (or younger/older) boys and girls mixing in activities together. Don't know what the author is bringing this up for as it's not fact.

One of the major convenience store chains announced a few months ago its intention to cover with plastic the adult-related publications in its magazine sections. The goal is to render sexually explicit magazines less visible, and thus protect children but also all customers who would prefer not be exposed to such materials while shopping for daily groceries.

Which is 100% fair, however, this did not catch on and Family Mart, Lawson and 7-11 (the biggest stores) still have them on display.

Japan is chock-full of red light districts and full of services for people to get their rocks off and if you are to look up Japanese Man Yuta's YouTube channel, you'll find no shortage of Japanese people who speak very candidly about all sorts of embarrassing matters. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVL6g0sGSZA

Japanese media is very varied with plenty of strong female leads. Don't know what you're getting at unless your metric is limited to pervy games being released on Steam.

I haven't seen a single relevant critique of Japanese culture in this thread, just a load of people insinuating that anime tits mean the entire country thinks of women as nothing more than, tits.

And while we're bring up issues of 'progressiveness': Japan has far more trans, crossdressers and other 'genderbenders' on national TV than the west ever has.

I'm not looking for a debate or another forum membership so I'm logging out now. Someone just needed to chime in who does live here because yes Japan has sexism but it's a more inclusive place (for genders at least...that's another issue entirely) than people in the west often give it credit for.

peace.