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Happy Monday Duders - Nintendo: Great Games, Big YouTube Mistake 02/02/15

I’m kicking off this month by playing a lot of Nintendo games. The reason… every week of this month I will have a theme relating to the things that I fell in love with in gaming. The NES was the first system that I ever owned and it hooked me on playing video games. My dad surprised me in 1988 by bringing home a NES with Super Mario Bros. and Duck Hunt and I cannot begin to guess how many hours I played of Mario

So many memories.
So many memories.

I was still very young at the time but the only console I had was the NES until 1993 when I got both a Sega Genesis and a Super Nintendo but in that five year span before I moved on to the 16 bit era I would get 3-4 games throughout the year; one for my birthday and a couple at Christmas. I played some of the greatest games of all-time and experiences that have stuck with me and shaped who I am as a gamer to this day. Metroid, The Legend of Zelda, Contra, and every Mario game that I could get my hands on. I loved the NES and to this day I still cannot resist a Nintendo system.

I have started my daughter on Nintendo games and many of the same that I played when I was around her age. She has my old SNES in her room right now with Super Mario Kart in the cartridge slot. That love of Nintendo is what led me to choose to play a number of games on my Wii U over the past week.

MY WEEK IN GAMING

1. Bayonetta 2

THOUGHTS: An absolute blast. Bayonetta 2 is a beautiful disaster of a video game that takes you right to the edge of being out of control but allows you to feel like you know exactly what you’re doing at all times. The combat feels great and the effects on the more powerful attacks are absolutely stunning. It brings me back to the fluidity I felt the very first time I played a Devil May Cry and even more-so with God of War.

VERDICT: I am about 8 hours in and nearing the end but I can already definitively say that I love it. There are so many reasons to own a Wii U and Bayonetta 2 has jumped near the top of that list. It is an incredible thrill ride that you have to see to believe.

2. Punch-Out

THOUGHTS: It hits every one of the best nostalgia notes. The returning fighters are iconic and instantly recognizable, even their special attacks and weaknesses are exactly the same while the new fighters feel a little too cartoony (I realize how dumb that sounds in a game with a human hippo) but even though they may not be as well designed as the original characters they still fit just fine in the mix.

I always loved this video review by Ryan...

VERDICT: You could have picked this up for half-price last week at $9.99 but even at full-price it is totally worth it.

3. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

THOUGHTS: I want to start by saying that this game is damn hard. That’s from someone who has played to completion and really enjoyed the other entries in the series, from the Wii entry back to the originals on the SNES. There is a level of tightness with all of the characters that makes this series so much fun to play. You always feel like you can do exactly what you’re thinking with your jumps. The mine cart levels are vicious and the length of the boss battles still seems a bit too long but variation in level design is incredible in certain spots.

VERDICT: It can be extremely frustrating at times but if you can get by that then you’re in for one of the tightest platformers of the last few years.

4. Mario Kart 8

THOUGHTS: One of the most recognizable and easiest to pick up and play party games of all time because most people, of all ages, have seen or played a Mario Kart game at some point and immediately know how to play. If you’re looking for a casual, couch multiplayer games to play by yourself or with friends there aren’t many better than this or any other game in the series. The blue shell is still the devil.

VERDICT: If you own a Wii U then you absolutely must own this game. It is the best Mario Kart game that I have ever played.

THE WEEK AHEAD

The second week of February will be all about a genre that I really grew to love with horror games. I didn’t really play a game that I considered scary until Resident Evil on the PS1 but I will say that one of, if not, the most atmospheric game I played before that was Metroid. I’ll get more into that next week but until then here are some of the things that I plan to play.

OPINION TIME

NINTENDO CREATORS PROGRAM:

I would be remiss to shower love on Nintendo for some of their recent and past successes without mentioning the controversy that has surrounded them for the last week. The Nintendo Creators Program was revealed a few days ago and was immediately met with a strong backlash from many YouTubers who say it is unfair and after reading the terms associated with I have to agree. You are sharing revenue with Nintendo when if you made a video that didn’t feature one of their games you would be taking for yourself. Google get their share then Nintendo will take a percentage of your ad revenue. This is a mistake by Nintendo, but for me it is less about taking money from the creators and more about not seeing the bigger picture.

I'm coming for that sweet YouTube money!
I'm coming for that sweet YouTube money!

This is a way to market your games for free. The people making the videos that feature Nintendo games are usually some of the more generously kind content creators that you will find on YouTube because they legitimately love the company. You can find a video that bashes Nintendo but those that heap praise on them are much more prevalent. In taking a few bucks from a couple of creators here and there Nintendo has sacrificed a ton of free marketing for their games. That’s a huge mistake and one that I hope they realize before it’s too late. When you start to turn your backs on your most loyal fans then you are in major trouble… I have faith that the big “N” will come around but until then they have started a fire with some of the largest YouTubers on the internet and their enormous fan bases, and that, is not good.

Here's my comment request for the week:

What was the first console that some of you Duders ever owned or what you system made you fall in love with gaming?

As always, thanks so much for reading and have an incredible week!!!!

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Great blog, thanks for sharing! This reminds me of hailinel or videogameking's blogs but I haven't seen their stuff in a long time. Do they still frequent the website?

I had a lot of fun with the Punch Out remake. I was just renting it and gave up after the initial run through of the characters when I got my ass kicked by the upgraded Glass Joe. I was playing through a lot of Wii games and didn't want to put forth the effort to become any good.

It sucks that Nintendo is stuck thinking that YouTube videos will lead to lost revenue from potential players.

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@brendan said:

Great blog, thanks for sharing! This reminds me of hailinel or videogameking's blogs but I haven't seen their stuff in a long time. Do they still frequent the website?

Hailinel got banned, VGK went back to his home planet.

Fantastic blog as usual. Nintendo has always had a bad relationship with Youtube. Remember when they said that they would never do another story mode in Smash Bros because Brawl's was put on Youtube?

BTW Wonderful 101>Bayo 2

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Punch out would have been great if they didn't make you use the god awful motion controls and could just break out a D-Pad. As it stands Super Punch Out is still the best Punch Out.

@corevi: Hailinel got banned? What for? And Videgameking actually quit the site? Mildly depressing.

@jbg4: To answer your comment request. I would say the NES and Legend of Zelda were the console/game that made me seriously become into gaming. I played plenty of games and other consoles before that, but they were just something fun to do. I can still remember the original 8bit zelda music from the title screen and even probably recall the exact note it switched to nighttime on. I got that into it.

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Punch out would have been great if they didn't make you use the god awful motion controls and could just break out a D-Pad. As it stands Super Punch Out is still the best Punch Out.

@corevi: Hailinel got banned? What for? And Videgameking actually quit the site? Mildly depressing.

You could do exactly that. There was a control option that was just the Wiimote sideways like an NES controller.

I don't know what he was banned for, just know that he was banned.

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@corevi said:
@brendan said:

Great blog, thanks for sharing! This reminds me of hailinel or videogameking's blogs but I haven't seen their stuff in a long time. Do they still frequent the website?

Hailinel got banned, VGK went back to his home planet.

Fantastic blog as usual. Nintendo has always had a bad relationship with Youtube. Remember when they said that they would never do another story mode in Smash Bros because Brawl's was put on Youtube?

BTW Wonderful 101>Bayo 2

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I just think that Nintendo doesn't fully understand what YouTube is really doing... I'm not sure how they are so far behind in that regard.

ALSO, thanks to Club Nintendo and having a ton of coins I never used I now own Wonderful 101... so look for that to pop up in this blog soon enough. I always wanted to play it.

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Great blog, thanks for sharing! This reminds me of hailinel or videogameking's blogs but I haven't seen their stuff in a long time. Do they still frequent the website?

I had a lot of fun with the Punch Out remake. I was just renting it and gave up after the initial run through of the characters when I got my ass kicked by the upgraded Glass Joe. I was playing through a lot of Wii games and didn't want to put forth the effort to become any good.

It sucks that Nintendo is stuck thinking that YouTube videos will lead to lost revenue from potential players.

Thanks, I really appreciate it when someone enjoys them... they drop every single Monday.

Yep, those guys were always fairly entertaining... I'm probably more boring but hopefully I can fill a little bit of that role.

Also, yeah in the settings you can totally set the controls to use the WiiMote sideways. It feels great controlling it that way too

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@corevi: Meh I tried using the Wii Mote that way, still sucked and felt like it had input lag. When I said Dpad I meant a Dpad :P. In fact Punch Out (and of course Wii Sports) are the only Wii games I own that don't support the Gamepad, I hate the Wii mote controls that much.

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@karkarov: The D Pad on the Wiimote is fantastic. I don't know what you're talking about.

Also you should play No More Heroes.

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I'm coming for that sweet YouTube chump change!
I'm coming for that sweet YouTube chump change!

In all seriousness, I doubt it is for the money. According to the rules they have 3 days before they approve of any video uploaded, so this is a means of controlling the message and their laughable attempt to police opinions of their games.

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@tuxfool: Yeah it was more a sarcastic caption on that picture in the blog... I know they don't care at all about the money, the content creators do but Nintendo is all about making sure there are as few critical videos out there as possible and while I understand that, it still sucks.

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@karkarov: The D Pad on the Wiimote is fantastic. I don't know what you're talking about.

Also you should play No More Heroes.

I do like that D-Pad pretty good, it feels really close to the NES controller for me which I am so insanely familiar with.

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@corevi: Meh I tried using the Wii Mote that way, still sucked and felt like it had input lag. When I said Dpad I meant a Dpad :P. In fact Punch Out (and of course Wii Sports) are the only Wii games I own that don't support the Gamepad, I hate the Wii mote controls that much.

I do think that it would be cool for them to have implemented GamePad controls into these Wii games. I would really like to see what they could have done with that and the Metroid Prime Trilogy.

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@karkarov said:

@corevi: Meh I tried using the Wii Mote that way, still sucked and felt like it had input lag. When I said Dpad I meant a Dpad :P. In fact Punch Out (and of course Wii Sports) are the only Wii games I own that don't support the Gamepad, I hate the Wii mote controls that much.

I do think that it would be cool for them to have implemented GamePad controls into these Wii games. I would really like to see what they could have done with that and the Metroid Prime Trilogy.

That would involve actual work though, and at that point they might as well uprezz them to 1080p and then suddenly they aren't $10 but $40

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@jbg4: Yeah, I just adjusted the caption to be more on the nose. You'd have better luck explaining the internet to a dinosaur than to Nintendo.

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Great blog man. Working my way through the first Bayonetta to get to the second one now.

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Good article, makes me want to try write one myself.

I'm in two minds about the Nintendo thing. It's free marketing sure, but the way they see it is that people are making money off of their products. And yes, that's not entirely true, most of the youtubers who have a following are getting their views through their personality and not what they happen to be playing. But then if that's true, and if the youtubers believe that, they should just forgo using any Nintendo games and use other games instead. The closest thing I can think of to it is buying a guitar. You're in a band, you buy a Gibson, you make money off playing that Gibson. But when you buy a game you're told it's against the rules to profit off that game. When you buy a Gibson it's just yours and you can do whatever you want.

My first console was a C-64 if that counts as one. If it doesn't, then it was the NES which I had all the way up to the Playstation 1.

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Good article, makes me want to try write one myself.

I'm in two minds about the Nintendo thing. It's free marketing sure, but the way they see it is that people are making money off of their products. And yes, that's not entirely true, most of the youtubers who have a following are getting their views through their personality and not what they happen to be playing. But then if that's true, and if the youtubers believe that, they should just forgo using any Nintendo games and use other games instead. The closest thing I can think of to it is buying a guitar. You're in a band, you buy a Gibson, you make money off playing that Gibson. But when you buy a game you're told it's against the rules to profit off that game. When you buy a Gibson it's just yours and you can do whatever you want.

My first console was a C-64 if that counts as one. If it doesn't, then it was the NES which I had all the way up to the Playstation 1.

I would be more understanding of that mindset regarding Nintendo if seemingly every other publisher wasn't running with it. I was honestly expecting the first company to go down this road to be Activision who would stand to make more money than anyone based on the insane number of CoD YouTubers out there but they just let it go because they know that millions of eyes are being put on the product thanks to.

I wish Nintendo would realize that and see that with the larger YouTubers like PewDiePie or Boogie2988 who have spoken out against this that it will only hurt them in the long run.

I have never played a C-64. I own an ridiculous amount of consoles right now old and new but have never been able to get my hands on one. Some of the GB streams where they have played C-64 games have piqued my interest but not enough to pay 50 or 60 bucks to buy one and then fight to get it to work.

Thanks for reading!

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@jbg4: I'm not surprised it's Nintendo though. Sega (japan side) has had these issues too. It seems to be a corporate-culture thing over there.

C-64's are cool. I played mine all the way up until I got my PS1 and then my C-64 broke. I think I actually still have it lying around somewhere. It had some great games on it and some bad ones too. I barely remember the names of them but I remember that T2 game that was a cartridge and not a cassette, a game about an elephant on his holiday, Golden Axe and this game where you flew around in a space ship and could land on in different places, get out of the spaceship, enter those buildings/structures to get stuff and then get back in your ship. I think you could design the look of the ship too.

I also remember having a Batman game which I found out years and years later was impossible to beat because one of the screens had a ladder you to jump to but it was too high or the jump button would never work.

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I always found "it's the company's right to be stupid, stop whining and let them" to be an oddball response to consumer angst over company decisions.

I'm playing Puyo Puyo Tetris on PS4 and it's constantly popping up notifications to tell me the story cutscenes are being blocked. It's like they think their fourth-wall-breaking light anime fiction story about puzzle games is the real value of the game and not being able to play the ingenious game varieties.

It's dumb behavior on Nintendo's part, and that they have the right to be dumb doesn't mean I have to cheerlead it.

I totally agree with you and it seems that your sentiment is shared by many of the YouTubers that I watched talk about this matter over the last few days. I just have a hard time understanding why Nintendo could be so blind to the benefits of having so much free marketing.

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Eh Nintendo just seem to totally suck when it comes to marketing, it's like a special power or something.

The first console I played was a NES, I must've been like 4 or 5? I shared it with my older sister and I think the only game we had was Super Mario Bros & Duckhunt. I was so young I can barely remember it, I vaguely remember playing duckhunt trying to shoot the dog and apparently I got scared on the lava bits of mario and made my dad do it for me :P

I'm a bit fuzzy on the time frame but later we got gameboy colours and a PS1 and N64 (not sure which order we got them in tbh, think it was GBC-N64-PS1) which are home to my most nostalgia-inducing games though I don't doubt the NES has had influence on me becoming a 'gamer' even if I don't remember it much. My best friend had a sega megadrive and I went round her house once a week after school so I played a LOT of the sonic games too. Good times.

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Nice read. The NES was my first love too. There were various iterations of the Atari in our house when I was very young, but it was just something of a novelty to me. I played it, I liked it, but it didn't consume me, so to speak. It sounds trite these days, but it was just an absolute revelation when the NES blew up; I mean Pitfall and Burger Time were fun, but going from stuff like that to SMB and Zelda and Rygar and Blaster Master and Metroid etc., felt like it wasn't even the same hobby. It felt entirely new. It really was a huge leap forward on all fronts.

With that aside, I've carried tremendous love and admiration for Nintendo to this day as game designers and trailblazers, but they've had a reputation-- going back to as far as I can remember--for using unfair and aggressive business tactics. They of course were successfully sued in the 80s over their early practice of forcing third parties to sign exclusivity deals, preventing them from being able to develop for anyone else. And then there's all the cheap, stupid peripheral garbage they unloaded on unsuspecting and gullible kids like me, half of which I'm sure they knew didn't work for shit. And the same kind of goes for their modern consoles, which are typically junk spec-wise, but not priced like it. And now this Youtube kind of stuff. It's a business, I get that, but with them, it doesn't even seem like they make an effort to conceal the fact that they're trying to stick their grubby hands in your wallet.

So yeah, it makes me feel conflicted. I'll always love the big N. I still love their games. Miyamoto's still the man. But they could use some coaching on how to deal with their customer base.

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Wow, I bet Youtubers like PBG are pretty blown away by that Nintendo Creators Program.

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Wow, I bet Youtubers like PBG are pretty blown away by that Nintendo Creators Program.

He's one of the very ones that I thought about when reading through the specifics. I know that if the channel is large enough that it won't really have too big of an effect considering those videos will still bring in a decent amount for guys like that, plus he has Hidden Block and other associations that he gets paid from too.

Nice read. The NES was my first love too. There were various iterations of the Atari in our house when I was very young, but it was just something of a novelty to me. I played it, I liked it, but it didn't consume me, so to speak. It sounds trite these days, but it was just an absolute revelation when the NES blew up; I mean Pitfall and Burger Time were fun, but going from stuff like that to SMB and Zelda and Rygar and Blaster Master and Metroid etc., felt like it wasn't even the same hobby. It felt entirely new. It really was a huge leap forward on all fronts.

With that aside, I've carried tremendous love and admiration for Nintendo to this day as game designers and trailblazers, but they've had a reputation-- going back to as far as I can remember--for using unfair and aggressive business tactics. They of course were successfully sued in the 80s over their early practice of forcing third parties to sign exclusivity deals, preventing them from being able to develop for anyone else. And then there's all the cheap, stupid peripheral garbage they unloaded on unsuspecting and gullible kids like me, half of which I'm sure they knew didn't work for shit. And the same kind of goes for their modern consoles, which are typically junk spec-wise, but not priced like it. And now this Youtube kind of stuff. It's a business, I get that, but with them, it doesn't even seem like they make an effort to conceal the fact that they're trying to stick their grubby hands in your wallet.

So yeah, it makes me feel conflicted. I'll always love the big N. I still love their games. Miyamoto's still the man. But they could use some coaching on how to deal with their customer base.

Thanks for commenting... I love reading other peoples first console story. I was about to pick up an Atari when I was around 13 with a ton of games so I went back and played games like Pitfall and Pac-Man on there.

I buy every stupid peripheral that Nintendo puts out so I can't hate on them for me not having any self-control... haha... but really, I hope that they come to the realization that the people on YouTube who are making videos with their games in them are actually helping them more than hurting them.

Eh Nintendo just seem to totally suck when it comes to marketing, it's like a special power or something.

The first console I played was a NES, I must've been like 4 or 5? I shared it with my older sister and I think the only game we had was Super Mario Bros & Duckhunt. I was so young I can barely remember it, I vaguely remember playing duckhunt trying to shoot the dog and apparently I got scared on the lava bits of mario and made my dad do it for me :P

I'm a bit fuzzy on the time frame but later we got gameboy colours and a PS1 and N64 (not sure which order we got them in tbh, think it was GBC-N64-PS1) which are home to my most nostalgia-inducing games though I don't doubt the NES has had influence on me becoming a 'gamer' even if I don't remember it much. My best friend had a sega megadrive and I went round her house once a week after school so I played a LOT of the sonic games too. Good times.

I actually shared my SNES with my sister when I was around 9-10 because I was the older of the two but I played much, MUCH more than she did... there was something about the NES though. Super Mario Bros. was an incredible proof of concept for some of us who were young enough to have missed the Atari craze and at a time when home consoles were less mainstream.

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What was the first console that some of you Duders ever owned or what you system made you fall in love with gaming?

First games I ever played were in the Arcades, that's definitely what made me realize I like games.

The NES was the first console I owned, like many kids Super Mario Bros and Zelda made me a gamer.

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What was the first console that some of you Duders ever owned or what system made you fall in love with gaming?

First games I ever played were in the Arcades, that's definitely what made me realize I like games.

The NES was the first console I owned, like many kids Super Mario Bros and Zelda made me a gamer.

The only arcade game that I ever played before I got my first NES was Pac-Man at a pizza place/skating rink that had a few different arcade games. I can't really remember what other games were there by Pac-Man really stood out to me.

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@slag said:

What was the first console that some of you Duders ever owned or what system made you fall in love with gaming?

First games I ever played were in the Arcades, that's definitely what made me realize I like games.

The NES was the first console I owned, like many kids Super Mario Bros and Zelda made me a gamer.

The only arcade game that I ever played before I got my first NES was Pac-Man at a pizza place/skating rink that had a few different arcade games. I can't really remember what other games were there by Pac-Man really stood out to me.

I suspect similar experiences are true for a lot of us.

The amazing thing about Pac-Man to me, is that is completely holds up today (especially Ms Pac-Man), especially if you can play it on a working cabinet. You can't say that for a lot of games from that era (like Pole Position).

There's something about its' simplicity that is timeless.

I almost feel like it should be every young child's first game.

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@slag said:

@jbg4 said:

@slag said:

What was the first console that some of you Duders ever owned or what system made you fall in love with gaming?

First games I ever played were in the Arcades, that's definitely what made me realize I like games.

The NES was the first console I owned, like many kids Super Mario Bros and Zelda made me a gamer.

The only arcade game that I ever played before I got my first NES was Pac-Man at a pizza place/skating rink that had a few different arcade games. I can't really remember what other games were there by Pac-Man really stood out to me.

I suspect similar experiences are true for a lot of us.

The amazing thing about Pac-Man to me, is that is completely holds up today (especially Ms Pac-Man), especially if you can play it on a working cabinet. You can't say that for a lot of games from that era (like Pole Position).

There's something about its' simplicity that is timeless.

I almost feel like it should be every young child's first game.

Oh God, I really want to play some Pac Man Championship Edition DX now... dammit, I thought I had kicked that habit.