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I am curious, let say hypothetically the PS5 comes in at $100 more expensive than the XSX (I can't imagine any world where they could go higher than that) would $599 be a breaking point for some people?

Would it steer you towards the cheaper diskless edition, make you have to wait to save more money/wait for sale or go as far as making you consider buying an Xbox Series X instead?

I guess I am mostly wondering if there is anyone out there, with what we know so far, that is still deciding which console to buy? Would a higher priced PS5 ruin your current plans? Has the Xbox price announcements and/or the All Access program made you think twice?

Personally I think Sony will go $550 standard and $450 for diskless. They can then say they have a full powered console cheaper than the competition: "starting at $449". Obviously this still much more expensive than the Series S but I don't think Sony really cares about it since I don't believe they could come close to beating it on price.

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I am not the biggest DC fan but have enjoyed, to different extents, all the of the Arkham games (including Origins). In a way I am more excited about this than Rocksteady's Suicide Squad game, sure thats largely due to the fact that it is coming sooner, but I think it showed pretty well on its own. Seems like they have made some interesting changes to the gameplay, but I guess it remains to be seen if they will be a benefit overall... I am glad they aren't just totally sticking to the formula again.

I was really surprised by the 2022 date for Suicide Squad. It feels like it been already a very long time since Rocksteady's last game. Provided it doesn't slip it will be 7 years since Arkham Knight. I know they did the VR game too but don't know if that was like an all hands on deck thing or kind of a side project.

Sure its just a CG trailer so far, and they are still a long way off release, but I was somewhat put off by all the zombie-ish enemies they were fighting. Again not a huge DC fan so it could be some sort of cool reference/well know enemy that I am just unfamiliar with but it did sour me somewhat.

I liked the look of the characters, the writing and acting (for the trailer at least) seemed good. I do wonder though how they will handle a character like Deadshot in terms of game play... if he "never misses" will he just have a bunch of auto aim??

Before the news of Rocksteady doing a Suicide Squad game leaked I was hoping that, when they said they weren't doing another Batman game, they would be let loose to work on some sort of new IP. I am a bit disappointed that they are still constrained to DC but I have faith that at the very least they will make a fun game... even if I personally don't have any built in love or nostalgia for the universe or the characters.

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I just played a decent amount of the open beta on PC. Completed every mission (that I know of) once, mostly with Ms. Marvel but played all available heroes. I didn't play anything in co-op, just in single player.

I have to say I was very underwhelmed when it was first revealed, after being quite excited to see what a studio the caliber of Crystal Dynamics could do with a Marvel game. Unfortunately, I found the way the characters looked to be quite jarring, the writing seemed poor, the voice acting uninspiring and the gameplay looked to be serviceable at best.

Now having played the beta I can say that my initial impression was largely and disappointingly spot on. The writing doesn't seem great (so far), there are some super talented voice actors in this game (Laura Bailey, Nolan North, Troy Baker) but for whatever reason their performances feel quite bland. Especially compared to their performances in previous games, the Last of Us 1 and/or 2 for example.

The graphics are subpar and it seems very unoptimized. The gameplay seems ok. I didn't feel like there was a huge amount of variety between the heroes. It felt a little better, at least with Ms. Marvel, unlocking more skills but there still isn't a lot of nuance to the combat. The loot doesn't seem to be particularly interesting and I didn't see any unlockable costumes that got me excited either. It seems that there are daily and weekly challenges and some sort of battle pass looking thing per character.

The thing that sort of surprised me was that when actually playing the game, the issue with the way the characters look didn't really bother me... or at least I got used to it pretty quickly. I don't really need them to look or sound like the characters in the movies, especially after playing 100's of hours of Marvel Heroes. Saying that, it did feel a bit jarring when they do make some reference to the movies that they are different. Also there are at least 2 distinct lines from Ironman during combat that reference Ghostbusters which felt a bit weird and out of place.

I like that it will populate your squad with up to 3 other heroes but it doesn't appear that any of the computer controlled characters (when playing single player) will level up or acquire any loot? A lot of the missions are very generic. Unfortunately there is really nothing else (in the beta at least) that is even close to the, I guess, complexity of first mission you play on the bridge. I enjoyed to boss fight on the recommended gear score 20 mission but then there is also a mission type where you are dropped into a facility and all you have to do is beat up 4 generators (or whatever) to succeed. The enemies will spawn endlessly (I believe) so you can just ignore them completely, destroy the mcguffin, the enemies will despawn, mission over. All done in a couple of minutes.

Overall I don't really know if I am going to pick this up. I know I sound pretty down on it but I am also the sort of person that thoroughly enjoys games that have a bunch of generic side quests/activities/tick boxes such as the newer style Assassin's Creeds, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. I know this game is structured differently but I still think that I could find some enjoyment. Plus I am a Marvel fan and that goes a pretty long way too.

I don't think I am going to get it September 4th. I do plan on getting the both next gen consoles so may get it on PS5, mostly because I don't know if there will be too much else to play at launch anyway (congrats Sony, locking up Spider-man I guess worked on getting me to buy it on your platform...)

I do hope it develops into a great game, I just don't think it is one yet.

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I just finished the game and could be completely off base here but I kind of got the impression that Dylan may have had some level of control or influence over the Hiss.

When its flashing between the characters it lingers on the shot of Dylan holding his hand (shaped like a gun) to his temple, then it cuts to shots with Trench and Jesse holding the actual Service Weapon to their own temple. When Dylan "fires" it then cuts to Trench and Jesse on the floor, dead.

I think it makes sense in a sequel, it feels like they left the ending open enough for this to be a possibility, it would be Jesse facing off against her brother (and the Hiss)... and/or more likely trying to redeem/save him.

I don't really have any solid ideas about the lockdown. Does it explicitly say that the Director enabled it? I only thing I recall is that they can disable it. Its possible the Oldest House has its own security protocols in place to put itself in lockdown for emergencies.

I haven't gone through most of the collectibles/case files just yet so these and a lot of the other theories I am trying to formulate in my head at the moment are possibly already disproved. I plan on going through it all tomorrow night but look forward to discussing everyone's thoughts as people get to the end!

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I'm curious as to whether anyone else watched the recent Gamescom Stadia Connect (or any other coverage) and are more or less excited about getting in on it now?

Regardless of the whole service not actually being announced for Australia (where I live) yet I feel the more that Google talk about it the less I want to invest in it. This most recent Connect announced a bunch of new games coming to the platform, nothing surprising and honestly if the some of the big name games (Cyberpunk, Watchdogs, Doom, etc) weren't coming to the platform then they shouldn't even bother launching the service to begin with.

Ignoring all the other business stuff around digital rights ownership, their current business model and Google's willingness to kill services left and right, the single most important thing that is the backbone of this whole platform being able to work is whether the streaming part actually works. It doesn't matter that all these (potentially) great games are coming to the platform if the tech doesn't work.

Obviously the biggest problem that Google face with this product is that it relies completely on networks that they have zero control over. Having a connection with low latency and high bandwidth is so crucial to having a good experience and without including data caps too (yes I know I am ignoring a lot of real issues that seriously threaten the success of Stadia) Google's reassurances of basically "ISPs will sort themselves out" give me no confidence in the product. I don't need to be reminded again and again that your server hardware can play all the games at 4K on the highest graphics settings, its ok I believe you there!

I get that its probably impossible to actually show in a believable way that the tech really works the way they say it does in a video but I feel that's really what they need to be demonstrating now. I know there have been opportunities for hands on demos at events in the US and Europe but it seems like they are set up in pretty controlled environments and not real world situations (apart from that Assassin's Creed/Project Stream demo thing they did).

In theory, I am fortunate enough to have good enough internet that I should be able to easily play at 1080p, probably even 4K, but at this stage I won't be buying in until there is enough real world evidence that it works... but who knows Google may just kill the whole thing before that can become a reality here in Aus anyway.

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I am really struggling to get excited for this... ever since the first showing at E3, which watching it again is totally just a trailer cut together from all this cinematic and gameplay footage. Makes me wonder why they didn't show this gameplay there? (maybe they did but I don't remember seeing it during the Square press conference) Its possible people may have been more positive about the product overall, at least at that stage?

I agree with what others are saying about the looks and voices of the characters. I feel like they either needed to make them more similar to the movies (yes I know that would make things very expensive if they could pull all the actual actors together) or make them look more different. Its weird, I love Nolan North as a voice actor. I don't usually mind when he just does the "Nolan North Voice" but for some reason it feels really off with Iron Man. I think its because I am so used to hearing him as Deadpool instead.

I haven't really had this issue with other Marvel games before though, I got over it very quickly in the PS4 Spider-Man game and played a tonne of Marvel Heroes before it was shut down and having different looking and sounding characters to what I was used to in the movies never bothered me.

Also the constant quipping and references seemed really forced. Again reminding you of, at least from what has been shown so far, the far superior writing and versions of the characters from the movies. Making this feel more like a classic licensed, cash-in game. This game seems to have much better production values than those obviously, but I can't shake the feeling.

The gameplay seems unoriginal, not that I expect them to reinvent the wheel but it kind of adds to the overall lackluster showing the game has had so far. It also feels really old school to see quick time events in there. Reading the details from Game Informer in the comment above makes it seem like they are toned down later in the game and this stuff is just for the tutorial level, which seems to be the right choice. In fact that one paragraph has told me more about the game than the initial trailer and this follow up gameplay trailer have. For some reason I thought coming out of E3 was that this was a MMOish/Destinyesque type game. Seems more like a single player game that has some missions you can play co-op. Have they said how they are going to handle if multiple people want to use the same character or they aren't worried about it?

It really feels like this game would have made more sense if it came out around the time of the first Avengers movie or maybe Age of Ultron at the latest. In a post Endgame world its disappointing to go back to having just 5 of the Avengers, so far, to play around with (well 4 if you believe that Cap is actually dead).

In theory this is a game I have been excited about for many years. Finally a proper big budget Marvel game with a great developer at the helm. The PS4 Spider-Man was a very pleasent surprise but I have never really been a big Spidey fan. Hopefully closer to release they will show more that gets me excited but so far the story and characters seem really bland. The combat seems to be fine but its not enough to get me to buy... yet.

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Well, this one has even less to talk about than I expected... and my expectations were already pretty low. The cold open was a bit odd and felt very unlike Nintendo. Did we ever actually get an intro?

Daemon X Machina was up first. This thing looks promising. Never really played many mech games but this seems like it might be up my alley. An expansion for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was then announced. Pretty excited for this. Am most of the way through the main game and have really enjoyed it. First one in the whole series I have played.

Recap of some of the Pokémon stuff that was announced a few weeks ago. Love the Pokémon games so am keen to check this out... though I must have missed that this isn't a "typical" Pokémon game, that will be next year. I am very glad Dan is excited for Super Mario Party, because I am super not. Well to play it at least. If it leads to another Mario Party Party then I am all in.

Fire Emblem: Three Houses is up next. I love Fire Emblem games so will definitely be getting this one. Fortnight on Switch... nothing else to say here. A few other highlights of Overcooked 2, Killer Queen Black, Hollow Knight and Octopath Traveler… man this game has a look to it.

Finally we get what felt like an hour on Super Smash Bros Ultimate. I guess we now know that it’s a new game with every single character from the past games… with a couple of additions. I loved Smash on the 64 but never fell in love with any of the sequels. This looks like they are building on top of the previous title, which I enjoyed, but it didn’t blow me away.

Overall I was a little disappointed by Nintendo. Pretty light on things to show but they are usually pretty good with announcing things throughout the year so its not that big of a deal. Hard to believe that technically this now marks the actual start of E3. Can’t wait to be able to watch the Giant Bomb night shows!

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Ok so that's Sony done. What a weird press conference, I don't know what they were thinking with the formatting of this one. Opening with a shaky camera, with poor audio, in a weird room was hard to believe they have far and away the most successful console this generation.

Once we finally got to the Last of Us Part 2 trailer the room choice started to make a bit more sense. Man this game is pretty, seriously impressive tech. Didn't really need to be sold on it though. Just tell me Naughty Dog are making something and I am there.

Then it was a hard swing to an intermission with a panel to announce some stuff. Honestly forgot most of the things that were talked about here due to a combination of disbelief, confusion and tiredness. Shawn talking about the games being highlighted as the 4 pillars made me feel bad for Sony Bend. I don't think their game looks very good, seems crazy that Sony are making 2 zombie games at once, but felt bad for them none the less.

Another musical number before our first real look at Ghost of Tsushima. Man another really pretty game. They must have some graphics wizards over at Sony. Very excited for this. I have loved Sucker Punch's output over the years. Thinking I will play this in Japanese which is very unlike me.

Our brief glimpse of Remedy's new game Control, looks like it could be a fun Quantum Break. That was maybe a bit mean, I thought that game was ok. Eager to see more of it. I have zero interest in the Resident Evil 2 remake. Good to see they obviously put in some work for it but I could never get into that series.

Next Trover Saves The Universe? Rick & Morty but not Rick & Morty? I have gotten to the point where I think Justin Roiland's type of comedy(?) is not for me. I watched the first 2 seasons of R&M and liked them just fine but since then between the fan base and Accounting (which I thought was just complete garbage) I just can't get into it. More Kingdom Hearts 3... with Pirates Of The Caribbean? That was weird, pretty good likenesses though. Still no interest in actually playing the game itself however.

Death Stranding was up next. A huge amount of hype from people around this given how little we actually know about it. I agree with the sentiment of the GB staff though that it showed very poorly here. We are no closer to understanding what it actually is and it showed largely the same themes from last year. I wouldn't say I am a huge Kojima fan but mostly enjoyed MGS4 & 5, the only ones I actually played. This is definitely a wait and see for me.

Quick announcement that Team Ninja are making another Nioh. Never got around to paying the last one but its near the top of my backlog pile. Spiderman looks like it will be great. Very Batman-esque combat and traversal looks like fun. Getting some Protoype (which I liked) vibes.

Not my favorite conference so far. They have some really good looking games that I am very excited to play. Kind of hope they look at the Microsoft presentation from this year and copy that format for next year. This one felt like it was kind of thrown together, weirdly paced and a bit low rent. Very much not like the "premium" company image Sony usually tries to present itself with.

All done for today, up again at 2:00am for Nintendo tomorrow :)

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So, ummm, that was Ubisoft. To be honest I kind of liked the opening. Couldn't care less about the game but at least Ubisoft knows how to put on a show. I was hoping the Panda was Michael Ironside personally.

Beyond Good & Evil 2 continues to perplex me. I never played the first but even I can tell this is a very different thing. My guess is it will come out slightly after Elder Scrolls 6. The player collaboration/content creation stuff was putting up big warning signs for me to start with but may actually end up being kind of cool.

Good to see they are still very much supporting and adding content to Rainbow 6 Siege, not personally interested in the game, but cool for those that are. The whole announcement of the documentary felt weird and, its hard to explain, reflective in a away that doesn't makes sense to me for a game that is still pretty new. I like Trials so am excited to play more, this one looks good.

A hard tonal shift to The Division 2. Don't think the trailer was particularly good but am ready to get back into that franchise. Announcement of raids is cool but is ultimately content I will never get to play, unless they do matchmaking. Free DLC is much appreciated. Fell off Mario & Rabbids pretty hard, not sure if I would go back to it for the Donkey Kong DLC but I love me some Grant Kirkhope so that was cool.

Skull and Bones should be right up my alley. I love the ship combat from Assassin's Creed but the existence of Sea Of Thieves makes this a little weird for me. Would be eager to check out a beta. That Elijah Wood game Transference is not for me at all. Seems like any number of other scary games, VR or otherwise, you find on Steam. Just with maybe better production values.

I really don't know about StarLink. Seems like it should have come out several years ago when people were more enthusiastic about toys to life stuff. Could be ok if the gameplay side holds up but from the little that was shown here I am not convinced. The Star Fox inclusion is both unexpected and totally makes sense. But at the same time feels like they may be trying distract people from appears to be shaping up as a bit of a fizzer. Miyamoto is an absolute treasure.

For Honor, another one of those games from Ubi that was rough at launch but seems like they turned it around. Not personal investment in this game either but cool that there is more content for those that like it. I was super excited for The Crew 1. I was hopeful even after being super disappointed by the beta. I still bought the full game but didn't ultimately play it much, you can't have a driving game where the cars have bad handling... that's all there is! Sucks to hear that the sequel appears to be following the same route. I will probably give this a miss.

Lastly Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Man it looks a whole hell of a lot like the last one, that not a bad thing necessarily as I loved Origins, so am looking forward to playing this one. Weird though that it is set before Origins. Seems like the modern day timeline will tie it in somehow.

And then it ended. Was expecting a "one more thing" from Yves, all signs pointed to Splinter Cell, but not this year. Agree with the guys though that if it was supposed to be AC: O then that wouldn't have done it anyway. Another ok press conference overall. Not much in terms of new announcements but I guess that Ubisoft's MO these days is to launch a game and support the hell out of it, which as a consumer that enjoys a lot of their games is pretty awesome. Just makes for a slightly disappointing E3 presentation.

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This was an ok showing from Square. They have some good looking stuff coming and a couple of new announcements. Suprised that we didn't see the Avengers game, which makes me think that that thing is not close at all or is being saved for Sony, and nothing about the Final Fantasy 7 Remake, not that I really care about it though.

I am looking forward to Tomb Raider, its seems like more Tomb Raider mixed with Batman. I wasn't as high on Rise Of The Tomb Raider as most people seem to be but loved that first one. Haven't played FF14 and don't plan on starting now. The crossover with Monster Hunter World was pretty unexpected though. Also haven't played Life is Strange so Captain Spirit isn't doing it for me. First time I have seen anything from Dragon Quest XI but remember the 8-4 guys loving it. Will definitely be picking this one up, last one I played was Starry Skies and loved it.

Babylon's Fall looks promising but we really don't know much about it. Seeing a PlatinumGames logo on it has me both excited and cautious (hopefully this is made by good Platinum). I keep forgetting about the existence of Octopath Traveller so every time I see the art style it blows me away. Just hope the game part of it holds up. Again Just Cause 4 looks cool, just hope I enjoy it more than 3. I have no idea what to expect from The Quiet Man. Never played a Kingdom Hearts game and man some of the dialogue in this trailer was bad. Probably give this one a miss, don't think I was to go back and play all the previous ones.

Overall it was fine, a lot of what they showed did not have an Xbox logo on it which I found interesting. They can get away with a shorter, more sparse showing with the Nintendo Direct style presentation which I thought was pretty well paced and produced. Happy to be up at 3am to hear some Keith David :) On to Ubisoft!

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