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Why I don't want to play FFXIII-2 Anymore.

Many people didn’t like final fantasy 13 and for good reasons. Super linear, bland, etc. Blah Blah Blah. But, 13-2 seems to go above and beyond that with horribleness. Now, as a veteran of Anime Purity I will always argue[To the death] that the Japanese voice acting is always going to be better than that of its American counterpart. Some games however, do an OK job of this. FFXII-2 is not one of them. The main issue that I have with dubbing games in English is the fact that Americans aren't as animated as the Japanese are when they speak. Now we are very animated but, not with the same gestures that the Japanese use when they speak. So, never the less you see TONS of odd movements either while a character is still or making some odd motion that is completely foreign to us Americans because it simply does not exist in our culture. Serah is a pathetic squeamish character that is at best a cardboard standee in place of her older, better, stronger sister. Now, I'm not saying that you should switch to the other Character Noel (I’ll get to him later) and it be a better game, but I'm saying she is pretty much everything bad about women in games and possibly in general. She is cowardly, stupid, distrusting, weak, and fully of useless words that do not only distract from the game but, detract from the game as well. When I heard that SE was making FFXIII I was very excited. Once I saw me, I was even more excited. Once I heard that it was being ported to 360 I quickly began losing all hope in the game and franchise. Now, it's not a matter of fanboyism here but, the fact that the game was severely cut to fit the size of M$'s outdated storage system on the 360. With that in mind many reports came out about hot SE had "An Entire game worth of content" that was left out. Entire cities, places, boss, etc. Hearing that I became hopeful that one day all of this content would see the light of day. Upon hearing about FFXIII-2 I got excited again. Then the trailer of lighting with a modified Gun-blade in a suit of armor surface. "This game is going to be AWESOME!!!" is what I thought when the content started streaming about for the game. Then I started to see more and more about Lightning's waste of disc space sister Serah that was engaged to the skull-capped lunatic from the first 13. "Why does she have a bow?" "What she is playable... err ok." Then BAM!! She's the main character??? Seeing as she was literally a waste of space I could not imagine how someone so helpless and mentally challenged as her could be a party leader. Flame shield up, I liked Lightning She was a strong woman who, to some degree, was pretty well rounded and likable. While she wasn't a new Squall replacement for me she was pretty cool. XIII-2 opens deceptively with you playing as lighting but, then takes it all away from you and replaces it with some kid named Noel. I wanted a better version of 13 with the most of the same characters from the first one.

Once again, I managed to come up with a better Idea about what the storyline was for 13-2 in my mind before I had even seen the game. From the looks of everything, Lightning was obviously some leader of an army against this evil purple haired warlord and that the game would take place before or after 13 and show the rise and fall of this unnamed villain. Everyone would return to go all medieval on this guy. It would be great! All the Eidolons would come back and there would be this huge war spanning everything that was skipped from the first 13!

No.

THIS GAME'S ABOUT TIME TRAVEL!!

Ok, Chrono Trigger did that and that game was awesome.

Well, this one is just a poor excuse to use the same areas over and over by filling them with minor differences and bland characters.

This game is not awesome like Chrono Trigger.

I don't feel like even mentioning 13-2's plot. It's bad and uninspired just like everything FF at this point.

Instead of bringing back the character’s from the first 13 they have replaced the empty slot in your party for Monsters! HOW DUMB CAN YOU GET? No, I shouldn't ask that. Never mind, they beat me to it with 13-2. So instead of making new things monsters, etc. The monsters (or the ones that I saw before getting so sick of how terrible the game is) are merely recycled ones from the first 13!! There are more monsters but they are simply pattern variations of other monsters in the game. What's that? A goblin? No this is the Gollbina and it looks just like the goblin but, it is purple instead of green. So, it's a new monster! DUH!!! Kill me please.

I am a firm believer in the fact that you can judge an entire game by its demo and that you do not

Need to beat a game in order to review it. Honest to goodness it isn't the gameplay that is so off putting. I mean pick the Paradigm is a great game! It's just like rock, paper, and scissors. It's the dialog and horrible story that have caused me to put this disgrace down. Before you pull out the "weeaboo" comment, I'm not saying that the game would be better in Japanese. This is more like saying the medicine that makes you dizzy and gives you diarrhea is better if it is grape flavored as opposed to fish flavored. While the medicine will still make you have an upset stomach and make you dizzy it be as bad if it tastes better.

Simply put, this is like a band releasing B-sides to a commercial failure of an album. You hated the first album, you like the band's old stuff and you know these B-sides are from the same era of bad songwriting but maybe, just Maybe there will be something good in this that you will enjoy. They needed to make money off of the assets that they had left over from squeezing 13 on a DVD-9 for the 360. Good luck square, this game is terrible. I had such High hopes for the decent character Chocolina, until I heard her talk. She's hot and a shopkeeper, but she sounds like your friend's creepy grandma that likes to hug you too much and refers to herself in the 3rd person.

Hear me out square; you have lost your title. You aren't even a dotted out line of what you used to be. You are why Japanese games are dying. SO, stay quiet and make ONE MORE GOOD GAME!! ONE MORE CHANCE!! ONE!!!

But, until then, let Atlus do all the Japanese stuff and leave the other main games to us Westerners.

BTW: Edios was a bad company before you bought them. Other than Fear Effect and Deus Ex, that is. Those games are good.

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@MB said:

How many people really care about Final Fantasy anymore? I mean, the last good FF game was FFX, since then it's just been ridiculous.

FFXII and XIII were great games. I'm not sure what you find so ridiculous about them compared to FFX.

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@MB said:

How many people really care about Final Fantasy anymore? I mean, the last good FF game was FFX, since then it's just been ridiculous.

Considering millions of people buy each game, I'd say millions of people still care about the Final Fantasy series. We don't have solid numbers yet but it looks like 13-2 is close to if not over 2 million worldwide.
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@Hailinel said:

@MB said:

How many people really care about Final Fantasy anymore? I mean, the last good FF game was FFX, since then it's just been ridiculous.

FFXII and XIII were great games. I'm not sure what you find so ridiculous about them compared to FFX.

I find it a little weird that some people think X was the last good one. People complain about how linear 13 is but X was that way as well. I wonder what it that X has that was lost afterwards.

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Sucks to be you man.
 
Also I know I'm in the minority but I liked the linearity in Final Fantasy XIII.

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I can understand your complaints about Serah. I agree that she is a god awful character.

You claimed that you'd get to your complaints about Noel later, but you never did. He's actually a pretty good character. The only problem is that his story is told so close to the end of the game it makes it almost impossible to care.

Then you have Caius, who is an amazing villain. I'd go into deeper reasoning, but I don't want to spoil things for anyone who happens into this topic.

For me the part where your argument stopped making sense was when you mentioned Chocolina. How did you think she was going to be a good character in any way? You mentioned that she's hot and a shopkeeper, which are the only two things that she is in the game. Although, I don't find her attractive. I'm not really into chicks with bird wings... Her voice actress doesn't stop her from being any good, the fact that her entire concept is essentially nothing does.

Edit: Somehow I missed the part about you only having played the demo. I now understand why your argument is lacking.

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@mister1337: I disagree with every ill-formed non criticism you have of this game.

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Not enjoying the combat based on the demo is fair enough, though I wouldn't liken it to simply a rock paper scissors system. 

The credibility of your opinion however takes a nosedive once you declare how terrible the plot and characters are based on only the demo.
Many people seemed to have formed opinions on Noel and Serah without knowing anything about their characters and just stuck to them. Noel is the "Typical shonen hero" and Serah is some "braindead ditz" neither of which are actually true. Neither of them were developed as much as i'd hoped but I felt they were decent characters.
 
and you expected anything from Chocolina? Really?