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I don't know guys... even before I saw room 237 I also thought the film was about the white mans slaughtering of native americans. Not just because of the peace pipe can behind Dicks head. I took a film appreciation class, The Shining was one of the movies we had to watch. My teacher really encouraged us to dig deeper into the film.

There are a lot of themes of duality in the film. The mirror motif is extremely promonet. I always thought the movie was about the past and present, young and old, reality and fantasy. Its open to interpretation. Who is Jack and Grady? Are they the same person in an infinite loop of time? What was really going on with the hotel? Was it haunted? Was it all an illusion? Was it cursed by the indian burial ground (the indian burial ground is something predominant in the horror genre and is very much making a statement about the bloodshed america is built on (watch the TV show an american horror story).

Are we doomed to repeat history like Jack and Grady? Or will our children learn from our mistakes like Danny. This is all stuff that I saw myself after watching the movie a couple of times. There have been essays written on the film discussing its themes on family.

Ok so we will never truly know 100% what Kubrick's intent was in making this film but perhaps was his intent. For people to just want to dig deeper and deeper into the film looking for anything that stands out. Why was he so methodical with putting together this film?

I can not except that its just a story about a guy that goes crazy in the woods and tries to kill his family with an ax. There is just to much detail here for it not to be meaningful or significant in some way.

Also, in the movie Room 237 one of the interviewees briefly discussed some of the cartoons in The Shing. I watch The Shining before watching Room 237 and I started to notice that there are a lot of cartoons and references to cartoons in the film. I think its supposed to make us think about what is real and not real.

When watching The Shining I also noticed the apollo sweater. I was watching with my sister and was telling her about the crazy amount of detail in the film and the over analysis of the film. I made the joke that the Apollo sweater meant something even before watching room 237. I do think perhaps this is a symbol of a "blast off" moment. In which reality truly starts to break down.

I personally think that their is an incredible amount of depth to this movie. It is literally like a maze you can get yourself lost in if you try to dig too deep.

(puking noise)

No but really. I go to a community college. I don't know what I want to major in yet. What is the right or wrong thing for me to do? That is for me to decide and for me to find out... son of B.

I've only glimpsed over this but it looks awesome! I love stuff like this.

@probablytuna: Uh yeah... Sorry... I'm dumb.

@extomar: Agreed.

This is what I'll say... The virtuous drive is what keeps us from falling it to the endless abyss.

We are the rope stretched across the abyss. Our civilized humanity is a fine line we walk across. We put more trust in people then we do distrust. Why... because we have to in order for our lives to be sustainable and comfortable, for the superman! That is the virtuous nature of man. Faith that we won't fall into the meaningless abyss. Faith in ourselves as a whole. The virtue of man is to give themselves to the superman... God, I'm not making much sense am I?

Ok... I agree with you, perhaps I didn't explain the quote well enough... Humanity is a rope stretched across an abyss between animal and superman. The abyss is absolute meaninglessness (this is what I think "mad" people fall into). Our existence is our virtue. Without humanity, humanity has no virtue.

While I did say violence is inherent to all of mankind because we are still only animals. I did not say that our animalistic violent tendencies are what drive people to conduct mass murder. The abscess of purpose, meaning or virtue is what drives people to absolute madness. Soooo yeah, like I said, I agree with you. He was talking about the drive within man to become something more than just man.

Man is both over-going and down-going. People who sacrifice themselves and cause their own down-going for the betterment of of the over-going of the superman...

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

@thedudeofgaming: Thank you, (fist bump)

@fredchuckdave: Thank you but uuhhh... there are plenty of starving families in china working for nothing but the bare essentials. Ok they aren't dying of starvation like people in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Chad, Sudan, Angola, Haiti, Vietnam, Niger, or Yemen but the majority of people in china live below our standards of living in capitalist countries. Hell we have plenty of people going to sleep hungry even in America.

All I really know is that I'm not going to sleep worrying if I have enough money to eat at night. My luxury is brought to you in part by--exploited poor people who will work for next to nothing! Yea!

@themanwithnoplan: Yeah, everything he says in that video is so true.

@truthtellah: HA! Absolutely.

@rollingzeppelin: Mmmmm, yeah most of his ideas are quite outdated but I think he is still extremely fundamental to psychology and philosophy. Especially when it comes to his theories of god and civilization in relation to humanity. But what the hell do I know. You probably know more about modern psychology then I do.

Yeah you're right I should have expected people to disagree with my reasoning behind madness.