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@valeo: First: Hi, who are you again?

Second: We're in agreement then about what should/shouldn't be criticized and that the response in chat and somwhat on here was generally shitty towards Ben as a whole and not constructive in any way. Good!

Third: I do feel there's a bit of favortism towards gbeast. I made a general comment about my opinion of a gbeast stream and got trashed in thw comments for it. I see a lot more negative comments, most with little constructive value or bemoaning gbwest's decline in a general manner, and they hardly get called out. I ultimately/honestly don't think there should be such shit talking about either side and there shouldn't be "sides" to begin with. In retrospect I mostly made my comment on the gbeast stream out of annoyance at the double standards. I honestly don't care *as* much for gbeast personally, but that's just preference and they're not doing anything wrong per-se, and I know and appreciate Vinny et. al. work hard. (Still wish Dan was with Jeff and the rest, but it's his life)

Anyway commenting on this stuff isn't worth it so you're welcome. Feel free to lambaste me on this last one as you will. Going to stick to being positive and if I have a very specific complaint acknowledging it in a constructive manner. Practice what I preach!

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First - It says their name right above their post in case you are confused on who they are.

Second - A handful of people gave constructive feedback about trying to be more interested and focused on the game being presented and to please not swing the camera around so much and as a result get lumped in with people hating on Ben because of his voice by overprotective fans.

Thing - You have been constantly jumping on people who critique GBWest, Brad and Ben, how it's unfair, saying it's not a competition, and people aren't giving them a chance. Then you clicked on the last GBeast stream, didn't watch it, and posted a crappy comment about it being forced wackiness. A stream where the guys were having some drinks and trying to have fun to drown their sorrow's over the anniversary of Ryan's passing - a comment which you apologized for later in the thread, but are now acting like a victim over for saying you were trashed for your opinion.

FYI - Favoritism is the preferential treatment of one party over an equal or better second party. Certain people believing that GBEast is making more enjoying content than GBWest, or vice versa, is not an example of Favoritism. Favoritism is giving a job to a family member or friend and not because they are the most qualified candidate. I'm sorry if you are unhappy people do not enjoy the thing you enjoy as much as you enjoy it.

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Just starting to watch the stream, looking through the comments and seeing some things I really want to respond to, but I'm not going to because this is totally not the time or place for it. Thank you Giant Bomb, West and East. And Thank You Ryan Davis, you are missed Sir.

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@ripelivejam said:

@passivespiral: What I'm implying is gbeast often gets a free pass and very little in the way of criticism from the userbase.

I don't think GBeast gets a free pass, I just think a lot of people just tend to enjoy what they are doing more. Although, honestly, I never really think about East vs West. It's all just Giant Bomb to me.

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@ripelivejam: And I'm not really sure what your implying about Abby, like that dudes are just into her? But the girl crashing the boys club thing could have easily gone terribly wrong. She isn't the most experienced gamer it seems, but she's approached every game excited, interested, and open to the experience. And the GB audience has responded 100% with support and positivity.

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@passivespiral: Yes, but people are being shitty in their criticisms (theyre hung up on his fucking VOICE ffs, as if he can change how he sounds), and not even giving Ben a chance to improve himself as a host and presenter. Meanwhile Abby's perfect out of the gate for some reason. hmmm.,.

People responding by being shitty towards people that are being shitty is equally as bad and just results in everyone being covered in shit.

The handful of criticisms in this thread have been pretty fair, primarily focused on him being seemingly distracted/uninterested in the game, constantly swiveling the camera around making the game hard to watch, and people not connecting with his sense of humor which some find kind of snide or annoying. Watching his videos and posting feedback is giving him a chance - not giving him a chance would be people closing the web browser and going to do something else.

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I love Ben, his voice, his humor, and the way he streams content. Fuck the naysayers and their shitty judgemental opinions that aren't constructive.

Fuck the naysayers is really constructive and not at all shitty and judgmental response to people that have a different opinion than you about Ben, or any other GB staff, and their stream content.

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@rorie said:

They're on my personal Twitch channel so far. If I keep doing them and people want them on the site I can work on that, but for the moment they're pretty loose and just focused towards community people so I'm making it easy on myself by relying on Twitch to archive them!

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Does anyone know if @rorie community streams get archived anywhere? I'd like to check them out. I think he had a Wildlands one yesterday, but I don't see it on the site.

I think it'd be awesome if they were archived on the site, but I will totally go watch them on Twitch as well. Thanks.

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@passivespiral:

Am I misremembering or was the "happy birthday to everyone" thing originally done to avoid this sort of segment?

No, that is correct. I think the end of the show kinda drags now, but if people like their shout outs, it's not really a big deal.

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I like Jeff, but have never cared for the whole kiss on the cheek thing and agree with Vinny that it's gotten out of control as an end of podcast shout out segment.

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