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President_Barackbar

I am sorry Vinny McCaravellaburgito, I don't understand.

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@yummylee said:

@authenticm said:

I wasn't even aware there was a controversy over Far Cry 4.

That didn't take long.

Same, this is the first I'd even heard of it.

It wouldn't be modern video games without SOMEONE over analyzing even the most minute detail.

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What bothers me most about Steam sales recently is their huge push of Early Access titles. I find it kinda shady that a bunch of unfinished titles are trying to suck people in with super low prices. I feel like it ends up being detrimental to the developers of these titles as well because you have people buying into these games because they are on sale and not because they necessarily want to support the game and are 100% familiar with the concept of buying an unfinished game.

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An alicorn...thats like an acorn right?

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I'm TOTALLY interested in this, I used to do a college radio show about video games and I've missed it ever since I graduated.

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@kevin_cogneto said:

I'm even more fascinated, by the way, about how the Mexican-American War isn't taught in American history classes at all. It was the soundest military victory in our history, it's the reason that the continental United States has the borders it has, and yet as far as our schools are concerned it's as if it never happened. The Louisiana Purchase we learn all about, because that was a fair transaction between two sovereign nations. The acquisition of California, well nevermind about that. It doesn't fit the narrative that we teach children about America, after all. The America of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would never take territory by force like Attilla the Hun. And they have the gall in Arizona to pass draconian immigration laws trying to keep out Mexicans, when those lands belonged to the Mexicans and Spanish for hundreds of years before us. If we taught out kids history a little better, maybe they'd be a little more enlightened about these sorts of things when they grow up.

As someone who is a student teacher of history, I can tell you definitively that the Mexican-American war is a part of the social studies curriculum in American history. Currently in California and other Common Core states it is taught at the eighth grade level as a part of the eighth grade Early American History class. I can't speak for other non Common Core states, but I know for a fact it is a part of the new national Common Core standards, though I wouldn't be surprised though if states outside the Mexican Cession never made it a part of their curriculum. At least in California it has always been taught.

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@president_barackbar: I find it seriously hard to believe that Samantha Allen's piece being linked here is the cause of the flamewar in this particular comment section. I'm pretty sure it's enough that the topic was mentioned at all. If there are two things people love, it's fighting about opinions on the internet, and self-righteous indignation. Most of these people were not casually browsing through the articles, enjoying themselves, and were suddenly shocked into action by her terrible, spiteful words. They came here spoiling for a fight. Hey, I've done it myself in the past. Let's not pretend that either side of this "debate" isn't guilty of that. Or of hyperbole and aggressive language, or even straight up bigotry, for that matter - you may have missed some of these deleted comments, but I haven't.

As far as Allen's article itself goes, well, your criticism of its content is sort of fair - it's certainly vitriolic, although you and I may disagree about how much of it is warranted. But I don't think that Giant Bomb has any stated goal of presenting an even-handed view of anything. This article is just a collection of stuff that Patrick has found interesting over the course of the week; take it, or leave it, as you please. If you're looking for some sort of "fair atnd balanced" coverage, then I sincerely think that need might be better served elsewhere - but I wholeheartedly disagree that Patrick is somehow fomenting dissent amongst the users by linking to someone else's opinion.

Also, I think it's worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure no one in Allen's camp is interested in converting anyone who is on the fence about or against equality.

Yeah buddy, they came here spoiling for a fight. As far as I've seen within these comments, the only person who has been outright nasty towards anyone is evajolli who states they support the article. No one who has offered a dissenting opinion about the ARTICLE (and I do mean the article, since I haven't seen anyone attack the idea of equality) has been rude or condescending at all. As for Patrick, I would prefer if his coverage of issues like this, which includes suggestions for things that are WORTH READING, would perhaps not try to present people who have a different opinion than the authors he suggests as wrong or morally bankrupt. Again, to your last snide point, I have yet to see anyone here actually attack the idea of equality.

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@homelessbird: It's not just that. Now we get giant flame wars between people in the comments all the time when stories like this are highlighted. Patrick obviously believes that the GB audience needs to be accosted by people like Ms. Allen or he wouldn't have presented it as something to read. As Hailinel pointed out, there is a much more reasoned article that was written by someone else who didn't just immediately jump to the worst possible conclusion. We as a society need to realize that you can't throw around words like "sexist" and "misogynist" because you think it makes you look like a social crusader, these are SERIOUS accusations. This also does nothing to change the minds of people who are on the fence or against gender and LGBT equality, it only serves to push them further away.

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And of course, OF COURSE it's the dudes with anime avatars.

How dare you try to generalize like that. That is totally inappropriate and contributes absolutely nothing. Are we just going to start making generalizations about people's avatars now and how they feel about social issues based on a tiny picture that says nothing about the person other than they liked the picture or character? That is totally not fair and I would seriously reconsider that stance if I were you.

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I fucking love the idea of a completely fictional virtual pop star being in concert. It brings us one step closer to the glorious techno-dystopia Jeff keeps talking about.

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This kind of stuff has to stop. The content of that Samantha Allen article is so completely spiteful and unproductive I'm honestly shocked to see it presented as worth reading for any other purpose than how not to have a productive discussion about social issues. I can honestly say that after this, I do not support this feature anymore and really am starting to question Patrick's role here. Giant Bomb is not a place I come to so I can feel worse about myself, but Patrick insists on promoting nasty attack articles like that Samantha Allen piece as a worthy use of my time. He just seems way too extreme at times.

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@thenihilisticidealist: But also, don't be a martyr. You can have whatever beliefs you want, but you must also realize that those beliefs have consequences. You aren't being unfairly criticized.