Fallout 3 came out with a fat one. Well designed and full color. In Canada where you get both English and French versions you can barely get the box closed.
(ps: Do American copies come with Spanish versions?)
If I could could posit the following circular logic: Young man- What does this old man know about videogames? Old man- What does this young man know about art? "
This can easily be turned into linear logic:
Young man - what does this old man know about videogames? Old man - what does this young man know about art? Old man dies. Young man becomes old man. Old man - what does this young man know about videogames? Young man - what does this old man know about jetpacks? Old man dies. Young man becomes old man.
Also, Ebert says it himself in his article "Why are gamers so intensely concerned, anyway, that games be defined as art?" That right there is as strong a case that games are art as anything. If they weren't why would we care?
So.. why are gamers concerned that games be defined as art then? "
It doesn't matter why, the desire alone makes it so. "
but that's the problem, don't you think? It doesn't matter but it's this big of a deal? "
It's not a problem for me personally. Perhaps it's a problem for others looking for a purer definition of art, but I prefer it wide open and on an individual level.
Also, Ebert says it himself in his article "Why are gamers so intensely concerned, anyway, that games be defined as art?" That right there is as strong a case that games are art as anything. If they weren't why would we care?
So.. why are gamers concerned that games be defined as art then? "
It doesn't matter why, the desire alone makes it so.
@ryanwho: I've read the article, and I've followed his feelings on this (and other things) and my problem is always the same with him. He tends to only regard higher art as art. Even if videogames are in a "chicken scratches on a cave wall" point of their evolution I strongly argue that "chicken scratches on a cave wall" are very much art, one could argue that that's as high as art gets.
Also, Ebert says it himself in his article "Why are gamers so intensely concerned, anyway, that games be defined as art?" That right there is as strong a case that games are art as anything. If they weren't why would we care? Furthermore, one can argue that simply by people caring like this it becomes art.
I respect your decision to respect Ebert and his opinions but I never have and I doubt I ever will, so for me yes, old man, jaded and out-of-touch.
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