I think it was a great game. However, I actually prefered 6. The story in 6 was more engaging to me, and I liked how all the playthroughs tied in together.
I've come to accept that WWE is a different thing. I'm looking forward to the match you mentioned (mainly for Brock vs Braun) and still enjoy WWE on a regular basis. NJPW is awesome, but it scratches a different itch to WWE.
You keep saying that Xcom is mediocre, and that people only liked it because they haven't played other games of that type. I think that is a troublesome statement to make, when I know a good deal of people (myself included) who have tried other games of that genre, but only Xcom scratched that "itch" for us. Just because someone doesn't like the things you like, doesn't make them wrong, and to label that due to not being bothered to "try other things" is a tad silly.
I dislike boiling down the dream daddy love due to a racial thing also. Of course people are going to be more interested in things that are made by people from a similar background to them, it makes them relatable. There is a lot of eastern culture I don't relate to, the same way they don't relate to western culture. And that's ok!
I think a lot of people on this forum should try to accept that people have different tastes. Someone being passionate about something should be celebrated, not chastised.
Ultimately it always come down to personal experience. Your Xcom argument is interesting to me, because it DID get a lot of people playing that style of game that otherwise wouldn't have. I also think it was an excellent game (having played those games since the original on the Amiga).
The same thing applies to Dream Daddy. Dream Daddy was a lot of peoples first real experience with that style of game, and it really resonated with them. You can disagree with their opinion, but you can't disagree with their experience with the game.
Zelda definitely has flaws. But it also has the most impressive blend of ambition, polish and sheer fun I’ve seen in my 30+ years of gaming.
The flaws come at the expense of what it sets out to do. When Zelda soars it creates new heights and BOTW soars much more often than it hiccups.
I feel like the nitpicks have been parroted to such an extent that it affects the game like no other before it. It’s a game that begs you to get lost in its world. A game that begs you to turn off any waypoints and take in the sheer amount of design prowess and dedication that went into crafting said world. The implementation of verticality and landmarks that always give you a sense of place and purpose without beginning to consult a map is on a level of its own. La creme de la creme.
And yet new players are going in thinking “well, I heard weapons break easy”, or “yeah it does rain a lot here”... taking what they’ve heard and spoiling a game that deserves to be played blind. With no distractions or presumptions.
Personally, it is without a doubt the game of the year and among the greatest of all time. I find it sad that some can’t shake “the dirt” as Jeff put it and enjoy it for everything that it does exceedingly well. It’s THE benchmark.
It's awesome that you had that experience with it. It sounds like yours and Dan's views on it match really well. I came into Zelda (I got it on launch) hoping for that. It was my first Zelda since Ocarina, and at first I was enamoured with it. For all of 5 hours. the next 10 felt like a slog, and I doubt I will go back to it
The weapon system is something I am not a fan of, but that isn't my main issue with the game. My issue is the core game itself is dull. There are some good shrines that I enjoyed, but the dungeons are just bad. And that is what I want out of a Zelda game, great dungeons. BOTW does the open world stuff better than any other Zelda I have played, but when the core game is so boring, it just feels like padding.
I just wish I had the same experience with it that you and Dan describe.
Abby claiming that Dream Daddy "revolutionizes" dating sims/VN genre while also claiming that she played very little of the genre strikes me as hypocritical. I still likes Abby, I thought she brings a new voice & perspective into a rather close knit group, but I really hope she would open up her taste a little.
If you listen to her argument though, it was more this was a game that got a LOT of people playing a dating sim that otherwise wouldn't have (myself included) due to the nature of the story it was telling.
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