@lyisa:
It is a dating sim though. On it's base level once you take away the whimsy, and jokes, and d'aw moments it is it shallow and objectifying because the purpose of these characters are to either be sought after or rejected by you. They serve no other purpose. They don't help you in combat. They aren't enemies or allies. thats the nature of the genre. I'm pretty sure If I took the time to go through every dating sim ever made on the Visual Novel database I would find many that does every bit of sweet world/neighborhood building, soft hearted humor, and character development and then it could still devolve into an X-rated orgy because it's a dating sim.
The only thing that gives Dream Daddy any separation is the writing and plot elements with your daughter. But that wasn't the argument for Dream Daddy or against Nier. The argument against Nier wasn't that it didn't have heart or a meaningful relationship in it. And it's pretty hard to argue character and story things that when you traded in a game less than 10 hours after starting it. Like Abby spent the majority of the year hearing Alex, Austin and Danica at Waypoint and others go on and on about how amazing the game is and how it's on top 10 lists since February and you only play 8 hours of it over 10 months? I can understand not doing route B or beyond but to have so many assumptions about a game you barely played is just kinda bad.
You talked about power and agency but aside from the more aggressive dream daddy characters what agency does a character in a dating sim have? They get picked or they don't. You don't discover a character makes a sweet mancave in their spare time if you spend the entire game never talking to them.
As for the achievement thing...correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember The Sims 3 having an achievement for when your sims relationship status with another sim gets high enough and you have sex you unlock and achievement. I gotta wonder if that was a big deal for Abby and made her stop playing Sims. Isn't that a gross achievement?
Oh wait we just had a quicklook in November for an expansion! Apparently that wasn't a big deal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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