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@superharman: This is how Return of the Obra Dinn managed to be above Spider-Man already. Looking at the individual top tens, it’s clear the majority of the staff preferred Spider-Man over Obra Dinn. The first round of voting skewed the early results:

Abby: Return of the Obra Dinn

Dan: Dead Cells

Ben: Tetris Effect

Jason: Monster Hunter World

Brad: Red Dead Redemption 2 (Into the Breach)

Jeff: Call of Duty: Black Ops 4

Vinny: God of War

Alex: Into the Breach

Jan: Hitman 2

Vinny had to go God of War after Dan, who had it #1 on his personal list, skipped it in favor of his #3 game. If Dan had said God of War, that initial list could have been the same, with Vinny going Spider-Man, and Dead Cells being tacked on afterwards.

That first round was pure strategy of how to get their games of choice in the top 10. If Abby had said Red Dead instead of Obra Dinn, I don’t think the latter makes this list. She knows Red Dead will be on this list from either Brad or Alex, so she made the smart pick.

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@nixnutz: The format this year makes it so you can skip the first three days. Those podcasts are just going through the highlights (and low points) throughout the year. The last two podcasts have the 10 awards. Still a lot to listen to, but much better than previous years.

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I'm surprised there hasn't been more negative reaction to Dan 'hijacking' Biggest Disappointment.

That said I'd have to agree with him, I was really disappointed by RDR2 after seeing everyone squeeing all over it and then renting it to find out the controls were THAT BAD. I can only assume those that loved it had a case of Gaming Stockholm Syndrome after playing it long enough, or something...

Hearing Dan turn on RDR2 during several Beastcasts and the deliberations they had, I totally see why it made the list.

The one I didn't expect to make this list was Fallout 76. It was exactly what I expected coming from its announcement. The pedigree didn't sway me before it launched, so it didn't sway me during their deliberation.

I thought Sea of Thieves might be something not for me, but I could see why people would be disappointed in it. I was disappointed in hearing that A Way Out wasn't good, so I avoided it. It could also have been a game I liked if I had played it, since not everyone likes the same game, as the RDR2 discussion showed. We're merely relying on Alex's opinion on it (and I should say that his tastes tend to line up with mine the most on this site).

RDR2 being on the most disappointing list makes sense when over half the staff found it disappointing, even if the rest thought highly of it.

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One too many spoilers for a game that hadn’t even been released at the time. I ended up fast forwarding that part, then Ben drops another spoiler out of nowhere during emails. You guys need to realize we don’t get these games early too.

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Both of these lists are better than what the staff had for GOTY.

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This is one of the few Wii U exclusives that I never picked up, so I'm glad it's getting ported to the Switch. I'll be buying two copies. One for myself, and one for my nieces and nephew.

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If you're not a fan of PubG, you can skip the first hour of the podcast.

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With the exception of any PC games, everything on an Alex GOTY list is an instant buy for me. Luckily his tastes align with mine so often, that the only one missing this year was Assassin’s Creed Origins.

It’s not on the proper list, but I’m even considering picking up Tekken 7, and I’m not really into fighting games. Maybe if it goes on sale.

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@bladeofcreation: Besides not bringing it up until Vinny’s argument against two games Dan liked, Dan’s question was valid if one of the arguments made in favor of Dream Daddy was that it did new things for the genre, especially since he was highlighting something else they said: that neither of them have experience in the genre to be making that claim. You reducing his question to a simple “but what does it do that’s new,” or that he was “saying that it needed to do something new,” is not accurate of what his argument was, and ignores an important part.

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I think Vinny was sincere about how he felt about Dream Daddy. But I don’t think Damian or Dream Daddy make their respective GOTY lists without Vinny. Abby’s arguments for both were not hitting home for anyone when compared to other games. Some of you might think she made sound arguments, but watching all the videos, it didn’t look like she swayed anyone, with the exception of Ben wanting to check it out more. It was only when Vinny elaborated on how it impacted him, that Jeff was on board, even though he disliked the game. After Jeff gave the nod, everyone else but Dan was swayed.

Something similar happened to that when Vinny saw how much Nier affected Alex, and was willing to compromise to have it at #2. Abby couldn’t let that go for various bad arguments, followed by some “I appreciate” statements that don’t seem sincere to me. It’s at this point she finally goes for the pervy card to knock it down , and Vinny joins in.

I don’t think Dan was dismissive about Dream Daddy as some are saying. One of Abby’s bad arguments in favor of Dream Daddy was that it did new things for visual novels and dating sims. As others with more experience in the genre have said in this thread, she was wrong. Dan didn’t get into questioning what new things were done, considering both Vinny and Abby have no experience in the genre, until Vinny argued that Lost Legacy was just a better version of Uncharted and Yakuza 0 was just a better Yakuza. I thought that was a weak and more dismissive argument than Dan’s, who simply turned Vinny’s own argument against him. Meanwhile, Dan wasn’t the one being dismissive about a game being anime or JRPG.