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Same boat here, if the NX has backwards compatibility maybe I'll buy that and get all the Wii U games I've wanted over the years for cheap.

I'm not saying they hate it, I'm just saying they don't place a high value on it. And it's not just the storytelling here; it's the world building, atmosphere, and art design. The way the storytelling shapes to the choices you make, not simply in dialogue but how you progress through the game. Do something somewhere else, kill some random goon, and it turns out you killed someone's brother you meet later. Stuff like that. I don't think #10 is high enough on the list just based on it being probably the second best written game ever made, not taking into account the other things I mentioned. But hey, opinions and all that, it's fine. As annoyed as I get with GB there still isn't a more down to earth podcast to listen to about games.

@gdb: Because W3 is the best written game ever made right alongside TLoU and RDR, and they don't care. They're far more enthusiastic about MGSV. It's not a revelation that GB by and large places more value on mechanics and gameplay than anything else the medium has to offer.

If a game can pull me into its atmosphere with an authentic sense of place, great characters, and thought provoking stories I almost completely stop caring about it's gameplay (as long as its serviceable). A game as fun to play as MGSV or Rocket League is ultimately forgotten the moment I turn it off, but my favorite games like TLoU, Stalker, Witcher 3, RDR, or Half-Life 2 stay lodged in my mind for their palpable sense of place and stories they told. The idea that that's not the "video game" part of video games is crazy, movies and books don't allow you to interact with the world and be a part of the story being told to you.

When people say it's wrong, that means they disagree with it and at times the logic behind the choice. I don't think anyone actually thinks any list is objectively wrong, we all know it's ridiculously subjective and arbitrary. Lists for video games are even sillier than films because of how specific each person's experience is, also in cases like this where the people involved didn't complete or even play games that other people on the table played.

@golguin: I'm a big Lovecraft fan so Bloodborne's atmosphere made more of an impact on me than DS. After Rom it became so creepy and unsettling in a way the other games never were.

@assirra: The fact that one side quest won two awards here means the game is almost irrefutably worth finishing, except for I guess Dan and Jeff since they despise it. Dan's "It must be bad because none of us finished it" looks even more absurd in this context. The Baron quest addressing alcoholics as real people instead of cartoon villains was amazing, but Hearts of Stone and several other moments are even better. The whole thing is an embarrassment of riches if you care about characters and narrative, every quest is basically GRRM quality fantasy writing or damn close to it.

You probably played without the 4G enabler. Makes literally all the difference in the world, makes the game go from an unstable shitshow to very very solid. After spending 50 hours with Fallout 4 I just want to play New Vegas again with mods. Such a dramatically better game in every department aside from the shooting. I'll take a janky mess with amazing writing over well-performing soulless bullshit any day of the week.

That was beautiful. Holm just dominated her, biggest upset I've ever seen, only time I've ever wished I bet on sports.

Looks absolutely god awful. The humans look like they're in a TV movie and the dialogue is bottom of the barrel Metzen trash.. The Orcs look cool but that's it. Sad that Duncan Jones wasted 5 years on this, he's too talented to be a hired hand.

God damn. Most anticipated game of 2016, barely edging out Doom 4 and Deus Ex MD.