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Uploaded Endurance Run: Persona 4 [HD Remix] Part 04, then realised I re-uploaded Part 03. Well that was fours hours wasted :/

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DBZ isn't for me so didn't try it for long. I liked the way it looks, but it felt a little off compared to what I've been playing recently (P4U2/GG Rev 2). I was playing on pad rather than my PS4 stick, so that probably accounts for at least some of that. Getting a network error during training which threw me all the way back to the title screen put me off trying to put more time into it.

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@andrewj71: http://www.personaproblems.com/

You can gloss over it, but the translation is undeniably mediocre.

Using the JP audio isn't really glossing over it; it's a step towards making it better. Because you read it as a translation, rather than something someone literally said, the stiff phrasing doesn't stand out as much. You also don't have the issue of voice actors trying to make questionable lines sound natural (and I though the English voice direction as a whole wasn't great).

I'm also always baffled when people say the dungeons and combat are a huge step up from 4. I couldn't disagree more. I found most of the dungeons aggravating and way too long, whereas in 4, I could basically just turn my brain off for them until the boss.

The visual design is a huge step up, and the way they are actual spaces to explore rather than being a randomised corridor crawl is an improvement, but the way they are used isn't great. The puzzles can make the dungeons annoying (if I'm going into a dungeon, it's because I want/need to fight -- putting other gameplay in there isn't necessarily an improvement), and they go on _way_ too long (the last one being particularly egregious -- five mini-bosses IIRC and a puzzle setup that means you can't fight half the time makes it drag).

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@luck702: I hate to admit that I agree but there's only so many times I can hear a person open a sentence with "I think" before that gets *remarkably* grating.

Like in that bit where she was making a case for Dream Daddy and she did it about 10 times in a row, I gave it a pass because I figured she was going for emphasis.

And then for the next four hours it seemed like almost everything she said started with "I think" and it became distracting.

I think (sorry, I had to :P) most of the crew have picked it up from doing previous GOTYs, but it's a case of learning how to argue/debate your position. You can open with "It's very good", but you need to be ready to back that up with more concrete arguments. You should stop hedging with "I think..." and just commit to "It is...".

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a new difficulty, a healing item set, a skill card set and (strange thing to unlock for money) the japanese voices.

These are all free DLC for the base game (as well as a few of the costume sets); they are just bundled with the Ultimate Edition as well.

So, to those of you who have played it: Am I missing out on anything important/worthwhile if I just grab the Standard Edition?

Not really - it's mostly cosmetic (and unlike the P4G cosmetics not even referenced by the characters in-game IIRC) or battle music changes (tied to Joker's costume). There's a few new Personas added which are nice to have (skill sets are a little different to most of the P5 Personas, and you can summon them for free once which can save money in the early game), but they really aren't needed.

I bought most of them because I enjoyed rolling with Yasoinaba (P4) Ann, Gekkoukan (P3) Makoto, and Teddie!Morgana, and the extra Personas were nice to have (as was varying up the battle music to P4G/P4U's), but if you aren't already invested in Persona/wider SMT, you'll probably not get a great deal out of it.

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@start: That episode has been dodgy since it was posted IIRC (at one point, the image slideshow at the end would just cause the video, but not audio, to freeze on a single frame unless you skipped to a specific time [which would just show a different static frame], or at least it did on the version I originally downloaded -- seems to work now).

If you download High instead of HD (it's still 720p, just 3200kbps instead of 4000kbps), that version seems to have rendered fine, so may be the version to use unless/until HD is fixed.

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The only place, IMO, it really got shortchanged was Best Styyyyle (it is Styyyyle personified). Best Music was too close to call between it and Nier:A, and I don't think it rates in the other categories, despite how much I love P3/4 (story has framing issues and is too familiar, the characters are less interesting than P4, the latter parts of the game just turn into a slog and at times are just boring).

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@df:IMO, PUBG shouldn't be anywhere near a GOTY list, but there are major differences (and the 2016 PLEASE STOP winner isn't relevant because it's specifically "Shipping Unfinished Games on Disc" -- with the disc, there is a presumption that you can put in it and play, rather than disc+download enormous patch):

  • PUBG is sold as unfinished, whereas SimCity and No Man's Sky were sold as completed products. There is a reasonable expectation that PUBG will continue to improve and that features will initially be missing (as least there was before 1.0 was declared), whereas Simcity 2013 and NMS were sold as a complete bill of goods with no promise of further work.
  • PUBG is fun (at least to many - personally I'm not a huge fan) despite its limited and janky state; SimCity and NMS had issues that made them disappointing even though they ostensibly had their full feature sets.
  • PUBG is upfront about what you are getting - it's an early version of a game that'll probably turn into something better. NMS, on the other hand, promised the stars and barely hit the moon, and SimCity was built on the expectations and premise of the series to which it failed to live up.
  • PUBG isn't broken, per se. It's janky and buggy, but for the most part it's possible to play as intended. SimCity was broken (server issues made it impossible for many to play; features were disabled in an effort to make the game playable), and NMS promised features that weren't there.

It's fine to like neither of these practices (I think the state in which the Xbox version of PUBG launched is inexcusable, and should not have been sold), but they aren't really the same situation. If PUBG is still buggy or incomplete post-1.0, then the situations become more comparable (though it still, AFAIK, isn't broken nor promising features that don't exist).

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@platypon said:

I lost faith in GOTY votings when Overwatch beat DOOM (2016) in 2016. Multiplayer game of the year? Sure, i can see that. But overall, a multiplayer only game that requires a constant internet connection shouldn't win the award for GOTY, especially when it should be worth about $25

It didn't, at least on this site's list (1. Hitman, 2. Doom, 3. Overwatch). But why shouldn't an online-only multiplayer game win GOTY? It's entirely possibly to imagine a scenario where it is the Best Game to come out that year, so it feels weird to put a bunch of arbitrary restrictions on it.

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@azteris said:

Can anyone find it on the US store? I can't.

Press release from Sony Music Entertainment yesterday had the following note:

It is with great regret that despite the successful release on the PSN of TINY METAL in Asia and Europe, that it is not yet unavailable in the North American region. This was due to an administrative error. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. We will post updates on our social media accounts.