This is two months too late, several deaths too short, and a strong reminder that when my sub comes back up, don't renew.
Wait, people died over "GamerGate"?
Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.
Well the organised campaign of hatred have led people to commit suicide, yes.
I would have thought this would be huge news, but I have never seen this anywhere. Do you have any more info?
There was a suicide of a trans employee at Riot that some anti-GG people tried to link to #GamerGate. There were some troll comments made under the #GamerGate tag though. No media outlet that reported on it linked it to #GamerGate or to her working in the games industry. I know there were some people calling it a hoax elsewhere online in the trans community, but it was later confirmed to have occurred. It was very sad to see people with various agendas on "both sides" behave so poorly over that one, though most people either didn't comment or were expressing condolences. That's the only actual death I'm aware of ever being brought up in relation to it. Maybe someone knows of other incidents.
What the actual fuck.
If that's the same trans employee I'm thinking of, I found out just hours after she tweeted about it, I saw her suicide note on Facebook. Never had met her, never knew her name until 3 hours after she passed, yet I was crying all night about it. Tragic. :( I doubt it was because of GG, though that might have added stress on top of the already stressful life transwomen have to deal with not just in this industry but all industries.
I knew Kate, and luckily very few people attempted to politicize her death. It was tough to read her suicide note, but it no room for politics, at least in relation to GamerGate. That said, some GG members did want to donate to charity in her name as a GamerGate group, but that was shot down because it had absolutely nothing to do with GamerGate.
@studibro: When I took that survey from a few weeks (or was it months?) ago, it said that 3% of Giant Bomb users who took the survey reported being female. THREE PERCENT D:
Oh, man. I really hope those results are off.
Well, I just recently joined to comment about the Letter, so, should be about 3.01% now!
@studibro: When I took that survey from a few weeks (or was it months?) ago, it said that 3% of Giant Bomb users who took the survey reported being female. THREE PERCENT D:
Damn. I was thinking it'd be like 6ish%. I think there's a higher percentage of Dota 2 players than that.
@spacekatgal: I assume you mean the staff? Cause there certainly are female users in this thread.
I assume it was a broad observation, myself being a female user in this thread at this very moment. Many of the arguments about the women who have been harassed and how valid their feelings on the matter are have, in fact, been commented on largely by men. It's just the cold, hard truth of the site's main demographic, imo.
I'd love to see some demographics information from Giant Bomb, but there is very little doubt that this thread is a grand majority male opinion.
Leads me to wonder how accurate that information would be. I know a number of users on the site that are women but choose not to disclose it or have 'male' on their profile because they are afraid of making that known on a game site. I tend not to put my gender on most sites when possible either, for that matter, because of the fear of getting harassed for it (not a cisgender man, which is as much as I'll say) so I definitely understand where they are coming from :(
It's totally understandable, and a totally shitty situation.
I think this statement is a statement written by a man to men about an issue affecting women. Everyone's heart is in the right place, but there's a lot this whole conversation is missing.
This, by the way, was why Samantha advocated for GB hiring women. So the site would have that perspective.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'd like to think that if there were a woman on staff, "silence isn't complicity" wouldn't have made the cut. It's disappointing that I have to go to other places (like Isometric!) to get a different perspective, but hopefully GB will get there some day.
This is largely the same criticism I had for the way that the hiring panned out. I have nothing against Dan and Jason, and I do like them and their work a lot. But at the end of the day, what it boils down to is the addition of two guys that are largely the same as the existing staff for a variety of reasons. I would have much preferred more diversity in the hiring.
I'd love to see GiantBomb add a little more diversity, even if it's just testing the waters by having more guests or hiring some freelance writers (especially because hiring is so limited for the site)
@spacekatgal: I assume you mean the staff? Cause there certainly are female users in this thread.
I assume it was a broad observation, myself being a female user in this thread at this very moment. Many of the arguments about the women who have been harassed and how valid their feelings on the matter are have, in fact, been commented on largely by men. It's just the cold, hard truth of the site's main demographic, imo.
I'd love to see some demographics information from Giant Bomb, but there is very little doubt that this thread is a grand majority male opinion.
Question: Was any of the YouTuber/Twitch games coverage attacked in GamerGate? Stuff like Yogscast with its targeted coverage, or Day9 covering Kingdoms of Amalur (not sure if that was paid). Wondering since I honestly haven't kept up with a lot of it, and I know some of the YTers do make direct profits from the developer for their coverage.
Not that I know of. And that's one of the reasons that you can't really take the "ethics" stuff seriously, what's happening on YT and Twitch right now is WAY more serious than any ethics violation that's been uncovered in the traditional press (which is basically zero).
Big fan of your stuff during the Games Done Quick streams btw. The Half Life 2 stream was fantastic, and you and Duke Bilgewater reacting to the Ryan shoutout during the Hotline Miami SGDQ '13 stream was just fantastic.
Dude thanks :D. I'm part of the GDQ staff now so I'm spending a lot more time working on the events, it's super cool and I'm really happy I got involved in the scene way back when. The GG stuff hits kind of hard since I want to enter the games press or take a community management position - even after this whole debacle gained steam.
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