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@gundato said:

Can't really grok the OP. Are you saying the GB terms have updated or just in general?

Yeah they've been changed since they are now fully changed over to Red Ventures.

Also not wrong about the FB style data mining... but it is good to not give out more free data as well when you can help it, that be my take on not using stuff like FB any more than needed, if you do "need" to.

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@sakesushi:My first thought as well... but if you've ever/or do have premium guessing they gotcha info which is probably what you're referring too as well. So yeah who knows what's better. Guess that's part of what I'm saying, who knows anymore less you're a lawyer.

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@efesell said:

I just assume everyone already has my information.

You're probably not wrong, but I do like to at least have the illusion if nothing else that I can do a little something about how it gets used. Which in the end, maybe that's all we have anyhow once it's disseminated to all the 3rd parties and the 3rd parties of the 3rd parties... maybe we should just party ourselves and forget about it at this point!

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#6  Edited By tonal

Just wanted to let people know that care or haven't seen all the changes to the new privacy policy stuff, that it's up. In case you're like me and don't check the site super regularly. I don't remember the old ones, but pretty sure there was no "do not sell my information" section. Can't say that engenders a lot of happy fuzzy feelings in me personally... but guessing I'm not the average user these days. Reading through them quickly seems like there are somethings that might be a bit different from the old ones... but all the policy things are not great on the internet so maybe there's not really much difference at all. Also "cookies" link at the bottom does nothing at all for me, weird.

Love to hear what other people think, especially if there are people who are more qualified and/or more knowledgeable about these things that would like to discuss them!

I personally filled out the form to not sell my info, does anybody else do this stuff? Really interested to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject!

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I don't care, just give me content and I'll see if it's enjoyable for me or not.

To me the worse thing that could happen from all this is they don't make much content, because of the change over to the new company, move, etc... it's content that makes GB, the less they are able to make the more people will be likely to turn off and forget about the site since there is so much out there vying for peoples time especially these days.

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A lot that you say is very different to how I would say and think about the things you've analyzed... but I can definitely see that you are coming from a place where you want to do something good and help people in someway, so even though we might look at it pretty differently I hear ya struggling to make a difference, so stay true to yourself, keep thinking deeply in to things and make the best decisions that you can!

Some quick random thoughts that come up when I read your post: Shouldn't everyone if they know about what's going on with the network and/or the choices that are made be held to some level of responsibility? Aren't you by these standards complicit at some level if you are willing to be any part of something that is questionable to someone? Where is it that we draw lines in the sand? I'm serious when I say, life is basically one big contradiction that continually plays out over and over when you dig in and simplify it's constituent parts...

You gotta draw the line for yourself... but where's the line for drawing lines for others? I don't know, I just sound like an A**hole when I say crap like this, but I'm going to take my own advice and be me regardless...

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#9  Edited By tonal

@serryl said:

I don't get why some streamers interrupt themselves every 30-seconds to thank someone for a tip. I also don't get why those audiences choose hearing shoutouts over actual content.

Cause that's how they get more people to give more money! And for the audience, that's why they pay the money... it's pure out and out psychology. I was just thinking about this the other day about how this is so similar to other tactics deployed in games and most commercial products of any kind.

What's the real difference between the "whale" of a loot box, or a gotcha game... and the "whale" of a particular Twitch streamer? Amazon and Twitch sure ain't about to dissuade anybody in the chain of their phat bank rolling in... regardless of the grey area of possible morality of the psychology behind it all... I'll betcha on that one.

But hey, I'm not sure in the long run where I actually stand on the overall picture, cause I don't want to be one to tell people how to spend their money... I guess for me it all comes down to education, critical thinking, etc. if you know what your getting into then just get into it however you like, regardless if it ends up killing you, if you choose it, it should be your choice and you should be able to make that choice. But, how many people are actually making the choice? I definitely don't think a restructuring of the US at least (can't speak for other countries) to put MUCH more weight and emphasis on critical thinking skills and the likes could possibly hurt our country any more than we are hurting now.

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@sicamore said:

It's not possible to be popular and have a "good" community at the same time. The US elections have proven that approximately 50% of people suck, so statistically, trolls are unavoidable. If a community prides themselves as being welcoming and positive, it's a guarantee that they're tiny.

So people suck if they don't follow your political views? Sorry but that's way too black and white. I know people hate centrist points of views these days especially on the internet, but the real world doesn't function in black and white most of the time.

For example, I didn't vote for either of the 2 parties, because for me as long as we are locked into this 2 party WWE match, cause that's all it really is... no real good change will come to this country. So for me with your same attitude I'd have to say that like 98% or more of the people in the US suck... there are a lot of very valid reasons why people can vote for a candidate, even one that does suck and they can still be amazing people even when they don't align with your own views.

This hardline division we are having more and more in this country and the world, if we can't do something about it VERY soon will be the destruction of this country and maybe more. I know that sounds really over the top... but I really do think it's one of the worst problems in modern society.

And guess what, the 2 party WWE style governing system we have currently sure does foster that hardline division of "your either with us or against us!"

Maybe it's time to opt out of the fight and work together sans political parties and get some actual stuff done.