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No holiday releases my ass

For the month so far people are bitching and moaning about games getting pushed back till after Christmas. 
everyone is saying we don't have anything to get this year anymore. That's bullshit there is still more games coming out in OCT and NOV then came out all year. 
this is my list of must haves:  
 
August:
batman AA
 
September:
Guitar Hero 5 
soul caliber broken destiny 
disgaea 2 dark hero days 
 Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
 The Beatles: Rock Band
  
October:
 Alpha Protocol  
 Demon's Souls  
 Brutal Legend  
way of the samurai 3 
tekken 6  
 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 
 Borderlands   
 Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time
 
 
November:
dragon age 
call of duty  MW2 ((but I'm not getting it till next year))
assassin's creed 2
 
If that's not enough for you than your a horribly spoiled brat that I hope never to meet.

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For the month so far people are bitching and moaning about games getting pushed back till after Christmas. 
everyone is saying we don't have anything to get this year anymore. That's bullshit there is still more games coming out in OCT and NOV then came out all year. 
this is my list of must haves:  
 
August:
batman AA
 
September:
Guitar Hero 5 
soul caliber broken destiny 
disgaea 2 dark hero days 
 Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
 The Beatles: Rock Band
  
October:
 Alpha Protocol  
 Demon's Souls  
 Brutal Legend  
way of the samurai 3 
tekken 6  
 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 
 Borderlands   
 Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time
 
 
November:
dragon age 
call of duty  MW2 ((but I'm not getting it till next year))
assassin's creed 2
 
If that's not enough for you than your a horribly spoiled brat that I hope never to meet.

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I agree, when people bitch about how nothing is coming out this year, it makes no sense. Oh and you forgot about Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising.

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I've never heard of that one but if you like right on

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I was under the impression that the point was most the biggest titles planned for the november/december launch period have been pushed to 2010, not that nothing is coming out. I'm pretty sure the whole 'nothing in 2009' thing is a joke, using exaggeration. In any case, there's no way in hell I can buy everything good coming out either way. Maybe I don't hang around the sort of people that you do. I thought everyone said it for a laugh.

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@Novyx said:
" I was under the impression that the point was most the biggest titles planned for the november/december launch period have been pushed to 2010, not that nothing is coming out. I'm pretty sure the whole 'nothing in 2009' thing is a joke, using exaggeration. In any case, there's no way in hell I can buy everything good coming out either way. Maybe I don't hang around the sort of people that you do. I thought everyone said it for a laugh. "
the only ones that I can even think of being moved to 2010 were dark void and bayanetta. 
I was not going to get those anyways.
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Don't forget Borderlands, thats still set for release in October.

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Was The Beatles Rock Band pushed back?

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@CL60 said:
" Was The Beatles Rock Band pushed back? "
no I just don't like the beatles this is my must have games. 
it would be like 6 times longer if I was just listing everything
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@CL60 said:
" Was The Beatles Rock Band pushed back? "
Nope, still a September release along with Halo 3: ODST.
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I agree. The three or so games that I am actually anticipating for this holiday (Dragon Age, Modern Warfare 2, and Assassin's Creed 2) are still coming out. 
 
...Of course those three games are the reason that everyone else pushed their game back.

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@ArbitraryWater said:
" I agree. The three or so games that I am actually anticipating for this holiday (Dragon Age, Modern Warfare 2, and Assassin's Creed 2) are still coming out. 
 
...Of course those three games are the reason that everyone else pushed their game back. "
hey I love assassin's creed but I don't anyone got out of the way for it
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No one said there was no holiday releases. 
 
Plus, I didn't realize there were people that exist that still buy Guitar Hero games.

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Assassin's Creed sold really well. And publishers aren't pushing back because they don't think their quality can compete with that of Assassin's Creed 2 (because that's impossible to quantify, pre-release), they're pushing their games back to avoid having to compete for a spot in the marketplace with the likes of the games ArbitraryWater brought up.

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@trophyhunter said:
the only ones that I can even think of being moved to 2010 were dark void and bayanetta.  I was not going to get those anyways. "
Just for the sake of completeness, here's the list of games I think you could call "Big Releases" that got delayed out of the fourth quarter, courtesy of 1Up
 
Bayonetta and Dark Void (grouping them together because you did mention then them)
BioShock 2
Dead 2 Rights Retribution
Heavy Rain (my biggest heartbreaker)
I Am Alive
Infinite Space
Mafia 2
Max Payne 3
Red Dead Retribution
Red Steel 2
Singularity
Splinter Cell: Conviction
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@TheKidNixon said:
" @trophyhunter said:
the only ones that I can even think of being moved to 2010 were dark void and bayanetta.  I was not going to get those anyways. "
Just for the sake of completeness, here's the list of games I think you could call "Big Releases" that got delayed out of the fourth quarter, courtesy of 1Up:   Bayonetta and Dark Void (grouping them together because you did mention then them) BioShock 2 Dead 2 Rights Retribution Heavy Rain (my biggest heartbreaker) I Am Alive Infinite Space Mafia 2 Max Payne 3 Red Dead Retribution Red Steel 2 Singularity Splinter Cell: Conviction "
your crazy if you thought I am alive was coming out this year 
that game is barely even a concept
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I think that and probably Max Payne 3 are the two that least surprise me, mainly because the most we've seen of either is concept art and a general sense of what it is. Still, I Am Alive was initially scheduled to be released this holiday season and had a press release bumping it back; I suspect it to come out next fall really, as 2010 Assassian's Creed replacement.

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@TheKidNixon said:

" I think that and probably Max Payne 3 are the two that least surprise me, mainly because the most we've seen of either is concept art and a general sense of what it is. Still, I Am Alive was initially scheduled to be released this holiday season and had a press release bumping it back; I suspect it to come out next fall really, as 2010 Assassian's Creed replacement. "

is I am alive similar to disaster report?
if so then holy crap sold!!
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Why does everyone forget Uncharted 2????

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@MeetThePyro said:
" Why does everyone forget Uncharted 2???? "
I did not like the 1st one
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Indeed, AC sold 8 million copies, not bad when you consider it had no multiplayer at all.  Halo 3 sold about the same.  AC2 doesn't seem to get mentioned in the same breath as MW2 and ODST for some reason, I don't know why, I can see it destroying ODST in sales.
 
I don't think the publishers are trying to avoid any specific game, rather the sheer overcrowding of releases which means that their second-tier games are gonna get no media coverage, no decent shelf space in stores etc.  That and half of them probably just aren't ready yet.
 
All of the delayed games fall into one of two categories:  'Unsurprising' (Conviction, Mafia II, Starcraft 2, Bioshock 2) or 'Nobody cares that this got delayed' (Dark Void, Bioshock 2).
 
They are completely flailing around with Bioshock 2 trying to find a hook for that game.  They based the sequel on Bioshock's hype rather than it's sales and now they have no idea how to avoid a train wreck.  It's gonna flop whenever they release it, they should have just gone straight to Airshock or whatever. 
 
Mafia 2 is Gears of War with tommy guns.  Dark Void is Gears of War with a rocket pack.  Conviction is Vegas 2 with a scruffy Sam Fisher - when it's finally released, people will realise that it only looked great when compared to Ubisoft's last 4 attempts at it.  Don't get me wrong, they're all likely to be good games (except Bioshock 2), just not the "Oh no! We might as well cancel Christmas! >:(" good that some people are making them out to be.

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@Jimbo: Nice overgeneralizing and assuming of games well before they are even released =/
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yeah mafia 2 is just your generic open world crime game

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well really you can sum up every game in like one of three ways

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@trophyhunter said:
" well really you can sum up every game in like one of three ways "
I realize that, but it has and always will annoy me how people are so quick to write a game off well before it's been released, and well before they've even played it. 
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@kmdrkul said:
" @Jimbo: Nice overgeneralizing and assuming of games well before they are even released =/ "
They've shown enough to know where they decided to lift their gameplay mechanic from.  
 
Fwiw, I loved Mafia, Splinter Cell and even The Rocketeer wasn't too bad... ok The Rocketeer was pretty terrible.
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Uncharted 2 and Borderlands should be on your list, they're at the top of mine

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@trophyhunter said:
" call of duty  MW2  
If that's not enough for you than your a horribly spoiled brat that I hope never to meet.
"
You could've just stopped right there and the arguement would have been just as valid.  But yes, you still have a great point.  Lets just say we bought each of your favourite games this holiday, at 50 bones a pop, thats still over 400$ you're going to be putting down for.   
 
Spoiled brat is very much true.
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@Matthew said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" call of duty  MW2  
If that's not enough for you than your a horribly spoiled brat that I hope never to meet.
"

You could've just stopped right there and the arguement would have been just as valid.  But yes, you still have a great point.  Lets just say we bought each of your favourite games this holiday, at 50 bones a pop, thats still over 400$ you're going to be putting down for.    Spoiled brat is very much true. "
call of duty is not that great I'm actually going to wait till I've beaten all the other games on my list before I get it
I would call it a disaster or something worst if call of duty was the only thing to come out for the rest of the year
I also have $500 in my pocket right now just waiting for those game
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Even with the delays of some high profile titles, this Fall still definitely packs a good punch of quality titles.  Hopefully I will have enough money for all of them that I want. 

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The only game that I am really disappointing over is Splinter Cell: Conviction.
 
But there is so much still coming that in the end, doesn't really matter. I am buying Alpha Protocol, Brutal Legend, Dragon Age and Modern Warfare 2 for sure. (Not to mention my Fifa 10 :-P) 
 
Then other games like The Saboteur I am still keeping an eye on. I like the concept, though who knows if its any good.

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@trophyhunter:  You should really make a quick edit and add the Beatles: Rock Band in under September. Who cares about GH 5?   :P
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@JJWeatherman said:
" @trophyhunter:  You should really make a quick edit and add the Beatles: Rock Band in under September. Who cares about GH 5?   :P "
can't you people read that is the list of games I'm getting 
I like the songs in GH5 so I'm getting it 
I hate the Beatles and can make up my own opinion that amazingly can be different from the giantbomb staff 
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e@TheKidNixon said:

" @trophyhunter said:
the only ones that I can even think of being moved to 2010 were dark void and bayanetta.  I was not going to get those anyways. "
Just for the sake of completeness, here's the list of games I think you could call "Big Releases" that got delayed out of the fourth quarter, courtesy of 1Up:   Bayonetta and Dark Void (grouping them together because you did mention then them) BioShock 2 Dead 2 Rights Retribution Heavy Rain (my biggest heartbreaker) I Am Alive Infinite Space Mafia 2 Max Payne 3 Red Dead Retribution Red Steel 2 Singularity Splinter Cell: Conviction "
I believe you forgot Mass Effect 2 and (no surprise here but for the sake of completeness) Starcraft 2.
 
I am fine with a bunch of games that are coming out this year and, as mentioned before, you didn't include Uncharted 2 up there, a surefire hit for the season. I, for the millionth time, will say that I am looking forward to Professor Layton and The Diabolical Box as well, though that is only coming out in a few weeks.
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I have my own list of games that excite me this holiday season.  However, I do think it's appropriate to wonder how smaller titles and newer IPs will fare in the crowded marketplace of Christmas part deux this spring.  Titles which tried to avoid competing with the likes of Modern Warfare 2 and Halo ODST will now have to work against Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2 and other high profiles franchises for our post Christmas buck.  

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@PenguinDust said:
" I have my own list of games that excite me this holiday season.  However, I do think it's appropriate to wonder how smaller titles and newer IPs will fare in the crowded marketplace of Christmas part deux this spring.  Titles which tried to avoid competing with the likes of Modern Warfare 2 and Halo ODST will now have to work against Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2 and other high profiles franchises for our post Christmas buck.   "
well starcraft is a PC game so like 80% of the people that are going to get that are either Koren or weren't going to get anything else but that
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There are still several games that I want to play coming out this year (Alpha Protocol, Brutal Legend, L4D2 and Borderlands) but there are more that I'm interested in that are coming out in 2010 (ME2, Diablo 3, Alan Wake, Deus Ex 3, FFXIII, SC: Conviction, Dark Void, Max Payne 3, Mafia 2 and APB).
 
Still the games of 09 will be more then enough to keep me busy until then.

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@RHCPfan24 Mass Effect 2 was never announced for 2009, as far as I recall. It just feels weird having it be a Q1 release, though it seems now that Q1 is the new Q4.
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@Jimbo said:
All of the delayed games fall into one of two categories:  'Unsurprising' (Conviction, Mafia II, Starcraft 2, Bioshock 2) or 'Nobody cares that this got delayed' (Dark Void, Bioshock 2).
I think this pretty much is how I feel about the delays nicely. And while your descriptions of Bioshock, Mafia, Void and Conviction may have been a little rash, I can't help but but feel the same way. Hopefully we'll get new info soon about these games to help sell them a bit better.
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@trophyhunter said:
" @JJWeatherman said:
" @trophyhunter:  You should really make a quick edit and add the Beatles: Rock Band in under September. Who cares about GH 5?   :P "
can't you people read that is the list of games I'm getting  I like the songs in GH5 so I'm getting it  I hate the Beatles and can make up my own opinion that amazingly can be different from the giantbomb staff  "
 Well that wasn't stated explicitly in your original post so I don't know how you expect people to jump to that conclusion.
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The rest of 09 is still looking good to me. As long as AC2 comes out I'm golden. 
Along with that, I still have Beatles RB, Batman AA, Borderlands, (used copy of) L4D2, and maybe Alpha Protocol. 
 
What bugs me is how weak-ass 09's been THUS FAR. I haven't bought a single game released this year (aside from DLG's). There weren't even real contenders for me regarding retail games. Now look at the sick list of '10 releases, and I'll be a happy camper come the new year. 
Hell, January 1st they release Darksiders (which I think I'll be the only one buying that). Good thing it's SP.

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What the fuck???? Where's Soul Calibur Broken Destiny? Where's GTP?? Motorstorm: Arctic Edge? Where's GTA: CW PSP?
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According to the latest numbers, you're the only person who still gives a shit about the PSP.

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@trophyhunter said:
" For the month so far people are bitching and moaning about games getting pushed back till after Christmas. 
everyone is saying we don't have anything to get this year anymore. That's bullshit there is still more games coming out in OCT and NOV then came out all year. 
this is my list of must haves:  
 
September:
 Guitar Hero 5 
 
October:
 Alpha Protocol  
 Demon's Souls  
 Brutal Legend  
way of the samurai 3 
tekken 6 
 
November:
dragon age 
call of duty  MW2 ((but I'm not getting it till next year))
assassin's creed 2
 
If that's not enough for you than your a horribly spoiled brat that I hope never to meet.

"
I can't believe you didn't put the E3 game of the show, Uncharted 2, on the list.
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Again HERE is where i made my list to save retyping it ever time some one makes this thread ^_^

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I really only care about Max Payne 3 and Red Dead Redemption anyway. Red Steel 2 im kinda on the fence about but everything else is pretty much meh.

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@trophyhunter said:
" yeah mafia 2 is just your generic open world crime game "
 
Way to show you didn't play the first. Mafia is one of the few video games that has a script and actors as good as a movie. Seriously, Mafia is one of the best games to ever be created, if you think it's a 'generic open world crime game', I really feel for this day and age of gamers. Next you'll say Deus Ex was just a generic sci-fi FPS.
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@trophyhunter: No Uncharted 2 in that list?
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There are a ton of great games to be released during the holidays, but I'm probably only going to be able to get, like, two of them :(

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@Jimbo: Way too much stupid in your post to even try to address any of it.
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uncharted 2! :D