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I'm doing well, and after 14 years, I still love this site so much. Thank you, everyone. Giant Bomb forever. <>

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@theht said:

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"Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again! Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!"

The incarnation of hatred and evil named "Demise" in Skyward Sword was defeated, but he made the point that darkness and hate will have many incarnations in the future. One of those future incarnations is Ganon. That doesn't mean Ganon is a resurrected Demise; it means he is another form of the same enduring evil.

Consider that it is similar to Final Fantasy 4's Zeromus. He claims upon defeat that he will rise again and again in other forms. The point being, both Zeromus and Demise represent specific incarnations of an amorphous "hate" and "evil" which plagues the world. And it is upon great heroes to face that burden on and on forever. As long as there is evil, there will be heroes to overcome it. A classic trope in fiction and real life.

So, even though Demise was defeated, he was only one incarnation of the evil in the Zelda world. That evil had other forms before and will have new forms in the future. That's the eternal struggle between good and evil in Zelda.

Hmm, I wonder if when he says "an incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind", they meant to imply that if the bloodline of the goddess ended and the spirit of the hero never manifested again then the cycle would stop and the world would be free from another incarnation of Demise's hatred.

Almost the opposite of "as long as there is evil, there will be heroes to overcome it", where instead it's "as long as there is good, there will be evil for them to overcome". I suppose that's just another side of the same coin though. The enduring proverbial point then being that there will always be good and bad, and they will always be in opposition. The whole endless cycle itself being a representation of that idea.

Except the whole bloodline thing makes it less abstract than that. Which brings me right back to wondering what would happen if the bloodline ended.

Accepting that it couldn't, for whatever nonsense reason, then what causes a new conflict in the cycle to begin? Since Link is always younger than Ganon, I'm assuming the manifestation of hatred always comes first, and then the hero follows it. So what causes the manifestation of hatred to come about when it does? Is the cycle bound by some particular schedule? Does the state of the world matter? Is the state of the bloodline relevant at all, beyond merely existing?

In any case, it's a fun little way to tie all these games together. Totally unnecessary for enjoying these games personally, but neat nonetheless.

Yeah, the closest thing I can think of is a curse. Like, "you are cursed, and it will follow your bloodline forever". Which, to me, is not a matter of the evil coming about due to Link or his bloodline, but whenever evil arises, his bloodline will be cursed to always have to face it. The classic hero's burden.

Skyward Sword presents the rise of Hatred as an inevitable part of a cycle. So, there are legends about its return, and in response, the rise of heroes. The curse seems to just confirm that this particular bloodline bears the burden of facing that evil.

It seems like not all generations see a rise of evil, but each generation is ready for that possible fight. Link's uncle in Link to the Past tries to take it on after Link's father died, but he wasn't the one meant to rise to face the challenge. The family as a whole serves to help keep the darkness at bay and potentially have their children sacrifice for that cause.

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While I'd say the truth of the nonsense in gaming is crazier than the fiction, it was obviously an absurd, exploitative take on an ongoing tragedy in gaming. The show organizers promoted it so victims might watch, and when they did, the show depicted analogs of them being sexually assaulted, gang-raped, and successfully driven out of gaming.

In the end, they presented a sadly common authority message that, considering the difficulties and problems in gaming, women and minorities should probably stop trying and just quit. And for extremists in gaming, they should keep ratcheting up their efforts until that happens.

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Welcome to the Giant Bomb(and GS) team, Will! With Alexis gone, you're probably gonna now get paired up with Drew by fans, but don't let them railroad you. Forge your own path, duder!

I look forward to everyone pawning off any site problems from here on out onto you.

You're gonna do great! <>

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My face just fell off and flew into the future this is so awesome.

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Those Melee Top 8 Finals were amazing. Videogames are awesome.

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@aurahack: They should make this real just to mess with NASCAR fans. Reach out to the truth at high speeds!

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@amafi said:

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@amafi said:
@conmulligan said:

@thatpinguino said:

@truthtellah: Yeah I haven't seen anyone put together an instruction guide for dealing with internet jerk tactics before in a proactive manner. Most of the armchair experts just give you the old, "don't feed the trolls" response, but I think we know that plan doesn't work on dedicated harassers. The I like that the stuff Crash Override has been espousing allows you to keep your life mostly normal.

Yeah, it's actually kind of surprising that nobody's taken a stab at creating something like Crash Override's "Preventing Doxing" guide until now given how many high-profile people have been affected by doxxing efforts. It's great to see them focus on pre-emptive measures as well as after the fact support.

What? Surveillance Self-Defense: Activist or protester?

Actually written by experts in the fields discussed. In-depth. There's a TON of information like this out there. SSD is by far the best I've found though.

Fortunately, there's definitely some good stuff about protecting your identity online. (It's an especially popular topic amongst those who use the Internet to harass people, too!) Though, a more personal touch can help in handling crises, and more resources of support are much-needed. There's a lot of information online on all kinds of subjects, but it's not always readily available for when people need it most.

True. But EFF is literally filled with people who have dedicated their lives to this kind of thing since before the birth of the internet. I just thought the idea that this was the first time someone had made a guide to protect yourself online a bit baffling, is all.

Sure. I think the unfortunate thing is how some good resources are not actually widely well-known and there isn't a culture of acknowledging the necessity of it being well known. Usually it's passed around in a "stay safe from random hackers" or from governments sort of way, but there's less of a serious take when it comes to the fact that harassment online is still real harassment with a real impact.

When people are being specifically targeted, that has its own concerns along with more general online safety. It has been an ever-growing issue impacting some for years on end, and it's something we'll have to better figure out how to personally handle and broadly work against in the years ahead.

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@amafi said:
@conmulligan said:

@thatpinguino said:

@truthtellah: Yeah I haven't seen anyone put together an instruction guide for dealing with internet jerk tactics before in a proactive manner. Most of the armchair experts just give you the old, "don't feed the trolls" response, but I think we know that plan doesn't work on dedicated harassers. The I like that the stuff Crash Override has been espousing allows you to keep your life mostly normal.

Yeah, it's actually kind of surprising that nobody's taken a stab at creating something like Crash Override's "Preventing Doxing" guide until now given how many high-profile people have been affected by doxxing efforts. It's great to see them focus on pre-emptive measures as well as after the fact support.

What? Surveillance Self-Defense: Activist or protester?

Actually written by experts in the fields discussed. In-depth. There's a TON of information like this out there. SSD is by far the best I've found though.

Fortunately, there's definitely some good stuff about protecting your identity online. (It's an especially popular topic amongst those who use the Internet to harass people, too!) Though, a more personal touch can help in handling crises, and more resources of support are much-needed. There's a lot of information online on all kinds of subjects, but it's not always readily available for when people need it most.

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@thatpinguino said:

@truthtellah: Yeah I haven't seen anyone put together an instruction guide for dealing with internet jerk tactics before in a proactive manner. Most of the armchair experts just give you the old, "don't feed the trolls" response, but I think we know that plan doesn't work on dedicated harassers. The I like that the stuff Crash Override has been espousing allows you to keep your life mostly normal.

That's quite true. Keeping things normal or working on returning to normal is not always particularly easy depending on the kind of harassment you're receiving. It's common for people to give cold advice with little regard for the emotional aspect of it. And while "don't feed the trolls" is common, that doesn't account for systemic harassment or intentional efforts to not just get a rise out of someone but to get them to shut up. Few of these people are only ever going to act against -you-. Almost always they treat others in a similar manner. So when you ignore it, you're just leaving them to hurt others.

No one has to feel obligated to fight back against harassment when they're facing it, but in the end, a lot of problems which fuel harassment don't go away by ignoring them. When who you are is enough to get prejudice and hounding, you can't simply stop being who you are. In the long term, acknowledging and standing up to it may be the only way anyone else will recognize it, as well, and hopefully, people can slowly improve things for you and others like you.

More people need to realize that, for many who face prejudice online and in person, they're doing the best they can to just keep things "normal". For those who see what is happening, you have the chance to actively work to improve things and call out the problems you see. Those who are hurt aren't necessarily going to have all the answers for fixing things even if they wish they did, but since it's what they've experienced, they can usually tell you what's wrong and encourage you to try to somehow figure out ways to help. Think for yourself and consider ways to make things better.