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#1  Edited By VACkillers
@acura_max said:

Without any gameplay footage, I still remain skeptical, but it looks like the game is going in the right direction.

Yeah I hear ya on that... I'm skeptical as well but I'm also very very optimistic about this game because I certianly didn't expect the game to be what those screenshots are.

I also forgot to add a link to the no MTs so here is gamespots news on that:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/rollercoaster-tycoon-world-announced-for-pc-has-no/1100-6421744/

http://www.destructoid.com/rollercoaster-tycoon-world-is-a-return-to-form-features-robust-online-modes-and-offline-play-280413.phtml

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Do you have a link to said news? Went to ign and found nothing :(

I'm super excited for that game and I hope they don't mess up. I've been playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 for some reason this week-end and it is still pretty good.

Sorry about the delay in posting I normally don't check on other forums here cept for the PC section heh...

http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/rollercoaster-tycoon-preview/

There are quite a few postings around now about the hands-off preview. They stated about no MTs and no DLCs at gamescon I'm sure you can find it and there was also twitter post by the Atari CEO who also stated that fact. I think the whole issue and the flak they got with the RCT4 Mobile was a big wake up call in many respects but I'm just glad they listened. Super Super hyped up about this game.

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Now that we have actually been able to see exactly what the game is like now and I have to see I'm super impressed right now, im glad they didn't go down the route of making the game Isometric like the first 2 games because I really wanted it to be like the third game, just better, newer and 64bit so the sim doens't slow down when you reach over 1k peeps. Just going by the screenshots we are going to get exactly that. The level of detail is really high and the fact you can coop with your friends to build a "Mega Part" is just awesome as well as offline mode too! I think that is just simply great. No mention of missions or sandbox yet but I am hopefully more details will come out soon enough.

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I also did a build for you though its an AMD/Nvidia build and though not the most powerful cpu out there its more then enough for gaming and streaming with 6 cores its probably an i5 equivalent but some would argue that and most people wont like it haha but its more then capable of what you were asking in the original OP my friend runs the exact same setup and able to chew through games no problem even on BF3/BF4 and the like. You can add an after-market CPU cooler if you wish it would only cost you an extra 30$ but its not really essential for AMD builds as it is for Intel in my experience. Can always downgrade the motherboard too if its a little high just make sure its an AM3+ motherboard. All free shipping and all from the same place, which can save you a lot on the shipping if you buy all from one place.

Because its an AMD build able to go slightly better on the powersupply and harddrive as well, don't like those WD blue drives, those are built for storage only really, not with an operating system and used as a main drive, same with green drives as well but each to their own just my preference and was able to load in an Antec NineHundred case as well which is better then what some people have loaded as the case, you don't wanna be struggling to fix a card like a GTX 760 into a tiny case, it can be a real struggle so need to keep that in mind as well as smaller cases have terrible air flow.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vFfRwP

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@mb: of course, its an intel chip so every chip is dual threaded. I have to strongly disagree with you that the i3 blows away the 8350. Absolutely no way.

http://www.cpu-world.com/benchmarks/browse/960_61,960_63,990_80,991_80,993_80,1030_96,1034_96,1035_96/?c_test=50&PROCESS=Show+Selected

http://www.cpu-world.com/benchmarks/browse/960_61,960_63,990_80,991_80,993_80,1030_96,1034_96,1035_96/?c_test=51&PROCESS=Show+Selected

http://www.cpu-world.com/benchmarks/browse/960_61,960_63,961_61,961_63,962_61,962_63,965_61,965_63,993_80,1026_96,1027_96,1030_96,1033_96,1034_96,1035_96,1084_96,1093_61/?c_test=51&PROCESS=Show+Selected

The last benchmark is very telling, clearly showing how comparable the 8350 is with basically only a 200 point difference between an the 8350 and an i7 3770k which is absolutely nothing. There is no way that an i3 is better then an i5, never lone an i7, and the 3770k is not that old either.

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telling ya right now, an i3 does NOT out perform an 8-core CPU and you talk till you're blue in the face. It doesn't beat it in FPS especially in CPU intensive games like ROME II Total War and X-Rebirth. I dare you to post FPS on a little old i3 compared to an FX 8350. You are joking right? intels are better at handling data faster where as FX's can handle WAY more data at a time. Especially if you plan on doing anything like TwitchTV, or any stuff along side just playing games there is no way an i3 will out beat that cpu not in a million years. i3s are bottlenecked by the GPU plain and simple.

As far as the comment about games using mroe cores for years, yeah spot on m8, defintely a broken damn record I hear yeah, the problem with the last generation of games was the games themselves were held back because of the dramatic limitation those consoles had, so the PC ports were not as good as they should have been and now the new consoles have arrived with all the horsepower they can muster, both the X1 and PS4 have 8-core cpu's in them with at least 5 available for processing power for games. This will be the generation of multicore cpu's I can almost guarantee it. Games will be made and created to use many many more cores now then before, and the fact that both consoles are so close to PC architectures its safer to say more now then ever before that games are definitely DEFINITELY going to start using way more cores then before. The GPUs in the consoles are far from the best, not as good as I would have hoped so that raw processing power will have to comes from somewhere and whatever the GPU needs help with the CPU will take over. This is a given really. X-Rebirth is one of the first games of the new generation that really uses every single core you have and its still not enough (regardless of the issues that one game has with performance) Planetary annihilation is another that you will most likely need 32GB of RAM and minimum 4-core CPU if you have any hope in hell playing multiplayer. I couldn't even imagine the types of specs were are going to need for The Witcher 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition is another potential one. Star Citizen will use every core you have as does Elite: Dangerous because of the sheer amount of stuff that it's rendering in places like Asteroid fields. Multi cores are here and here to stay. While the i3 can do calculations faster, it is seriously going to struggle as a dual core cpu. We are afterall, looking for 3 years down the line for the OP not only just now. Price of the I3 is only a biscuit cheaper anyway, so not worth it when you consider what you get.

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Definitely a lot of opinions in this thread lol... all good to be honest... I wouldn't compare an i3 to an 8350 though, its an intel so thread to thread speeds it will still be a little faster, Intel chips access data faster because you have the cpus that are dual threaded, where as AMD chips are out and out cores, so the AMD chips are able to handle more data, at a slightly slower rate, so when games start coming out and actually making use of more cores you see a significant increase in AMD performance over a dual core i3. As I said before I rival most mid-ranged I7s when it comes to FPS so yah I'm extremely happy and pretty future proof for the next 3 years and when its not upto notch, well, it was only 170$. not 300 so its an easy cheap upgrade for me not quite the same when going with intel. Intel is still the best I can defintely give in to that, but in an era where more actual cores is going to be a thing you'll need I wouldn't settle for an i3 and gamespot just did a good article on this very argument you should probably check out OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewrPDqFuT3Y

You'll see in this video just how good intel is at specific software as it clearly woops AMDs ass on a lot of those CPU bechmarks if not all of them, but when it comes to real world gaming, there is absolutely nothing! between i7 and an FX8350. Very good side by side comparrison because a lot of the testing rigs that other websites do use the most expensive and best equipment on the market that most ppl will never be able to afford like 500$ motherboards. About the best advice I can show ya really beside my personal experiences.

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@pcorb: totally respect your opinion. And I really wasn't sure on the GTX 750 TI, I just know it runs well for Titan Fall and that only just came out, all I have to go on for that. When it comes to the 8-core though yes nothing uses the full 8 unless your doing very specialized stuff like streaming, encoding, video or music editing stuff like that. I just wanted to give my opinion because of his very limited budget and what he was wanting it for, thus the best case scenario would be that. People do cream AMD for their lack of performance but with my 8320 I outperform most midranged I7s to be honest and for a CPU that is half the price of an I7 you can't really beat that. My experience with this chip has been nothing but absolutely outstanding and I haven't even overclocked it yet, its paired up with 16GB DDR3 1866 RAM and a GTX 760. Total price for the machine was barely over $800. Total bargin lol.

As I said before, totally respect your opinion, and thats the general concenses of most people, but with my personal experience with owning one, totally the opposite. FPS in things like BF4 on high is 60 / 40FPS on X-Rebirth (extremely hard to reach above 30) Minecraft with 15 mods and SEUS shaders at fullscreen 1920 is 60FPS / Crysis 3 is a steady 50 FPS on Ultra / Far Cry 3 is 60+ on Ultra / UT3 FPS is in the 100s with highest settings possible.

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For what your describing you might actually be better off just going for one of the new consoles. That card will be okay for now but I wouldn't hold my breath that it'll be able to play all next gen games without any trouble for the next 3 years. For budget CPUs I would go with an 8-core AMD chip, people will suggest Intel but they are better granted, but you'll at least have an 8-core CPU in your machine which no game even uses 50% of it right now as it is and its almost half the price of an i7. i5's I don't suggest because their longitivity is not great for the seeable future in my opinion no way. Going with an AMD will give you some extra cash to splash out on a decent GPU rather then struggling to find a happy medium between CPU/GPU pricing. Intel motherboards are also twice as much as AMD unless you buy a really shit one. Not too familia with the R9 270x but i believe its one of the weakest AMD GPUs in that new lineup. Might be better off going with the GTX 750 ti which runs Titan Fall well, thats all I know about the GTX750. Do a search online for GPU benchmarks and you should get a good idea of what price/performance ratio you can expect from the cards. Intel is the CPU you'd want, IF you can afford it, otherwise the AMD FX8320 or FX8350 are REALLY under-rated cpus and would be adequate for another 3 years.

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