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#1  Edited By ververdan0226
@EVO said:
" Lemme guess: you're drunk? "
Really??
 
Anyway, trust me, I'm done spewing morals.
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#2  Edited By ververdan0226

  Yep. Fucking religion again. Another topic.
 
I don't believe in either God or Christ. But I can derive some meaning from what the writings around his alleged existence have come to mean. That really is the most important thing.
 
Don't argue. 
 
If there is a God and he's happy for the race he created, he should look down and be proud that people having these arguments. Forgive me for being crass (for I really dislike doing so), but God would be a judgmental prick if he got angry over people having intelligent intellectual conversations about his existence. Faith is exactly what it is, faith. To all people who use "there is no scientific evidence of God's existence" as an argument, please back down. I have no faith and I dislike what religion does to a lot of people, but the point of faith is having faith in something that is beyond science; my argument is no more valid than that of anyone else. Religion is good, it saved a troubled girl I once knew from commiting suicide. I don't like that girl as an individual, but I'm happy she could find peace and continue to live. No one is right. Stop bolstering the ego by trying to do so. Just accept that there are converse arguments and move on. People trying to justify their arguments for or against, or even a simple presentation of the facts like ChristOnIce did, just let it go. I'm not proving anything to anybody with this paragraph; heck, maybe someone resents me for it. That's fine, but nor are you by replying with opposition.
 
 Yeah. Move on. Live life. Enjoy life. Do what ever you can to make yourself happy and content, be it religion or atheism. The world is flawed, that's not gonna change. I urge people to just make their way through it happily via whatever means possible. I'd like to think I'm beginning to do so.
 
Intellectually stimulating conversations like this are good, going to bed with a defensive mindset or wounded pride is not. I love you all, no matter how much I might resent you should I meet you in life. If you resent me for this, looks at what you say while you're typing. I respect you for having a voice, but resentment is based on the mind, not the situation. That's my argument. What's yours?
 
Because I'm happy. Or so I make myself to believe.

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#3  Edited By ververdan0226

Woah now. Check out the link.
 
Thoughts? Sorry, I have to duck out in a minute, so I can't write too much....

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#4  Edited By ververdan0226
@ErgoProxy77: You bring up a good point that this discussion has made me realize. Religion is certainly irrational, that should be evident even to those who believe in God/ a few gods. But I myself am not distinguishing religion as an divine and altruistic spiritual entity within the body. As mentioned in my post a few minutes earlier, maybe my brain is looking for a word to describe my attempted goodness of being when put in contrast
 
That brings us to the ultimate point of this thread: is there really any concrete definition of what spirituality is? Does the definition need to change? Am I falsely trying to make clear my thoughts? Here's the dictionary.com definition:
 
 incorporeal or immaterial nature
 
Do people agree with that? I certainly don't, but hey, we're having a discussion.
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@ChristOnIce: You may be very correct. Maybe it isn't spirituality. Maybe it's just being a good person. Maybe I'm merely turning to the word spirituality to try and make tangible any ideas I may have worked up inside my brain. Maybe my subconscious is simply grasping for a word. I don't know.
 
Thanks for all the great discussion guys!
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@Manatassi: I have a faith in myself, not a god. Though you bring up an interesting, for it is certainly hard to give an explicit definition as to exactly what Faith is. Don't think I can say, it'll be interesting to see how others do.
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#7  Edited By ververdan0226
@21stCenturyJesus: Indeed, I probably could at this point as well. Well, at least an essay. 
 
Haha, nice ironic handle by the way...
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#8  Edited By ververdan0226

... you avoid the site, come back after a month with no intention of staying and make a topic about the difference between spirituality and religion before making a Houdini-esque escape the next day.

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#9  Edited By ververdan0226
@ParanoidFreak: Get down with what exactly?
 
@armaan8014: I share your sentiments, as indicated by my post. Have you read Eckhart Tolle's A New Earth? Completely changed me, and not in a religious direction...
 
@HatKing: I'm an atheist as well, the OP is referencing spirituality despite the absence of religion. Any thoughts pertaining to that?
 
@PDC_Emulator said:
" Spirituality doesnt try to rob you/rip you off "

Sadly, a valid point.
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#10  Edited By ververdan0226
@Cerza: Well said, I completely agree. :)