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               (Or are they really deluded enough to think these two games are decent?) The games I speak of, of course, are Halo 3 and The Ooze. Yes, both these games are hideously overrated. Now I know what many of you are thinking: of me dying a horrible death for insulting your messiah. Just remember that I didn't start the Flame War. And in an attempt to keep the hatred to a minimum, I'll start with The Ooze and end with Halo 3. So as I alluded to in the last sentence, The Ooze. It was a Genesis game released when the system was pretty much dead, so don't expect major quality. Anyway, there was a story here, but I decided to make up my own: you play as Fred Fredburger (oozified, of course (at 1:39)), who....eh, the story they provided was better than the one I'm trying to come up with. As I said before, you play as a pile of ooze, and you have several ways to attack your enemies. You can shoot ooze balls at your enemies, strike them with your oozy appendages, or collect an instant death poison power up. Speaking of power ups, there are only a few I found: aside from the poison thing, there's super speed, DNA for the "good" ending (more on that later), and extra ooze. Ooze acts as your health and form of attack, and it's really fun to roam around levels as a huge nuclear mess.
               Wait, "roam around levels"....isn't that where the big flaw comes in? Exactly. What could've been a good game was ruined by awful level design. Most of your time will be spent looking for switches to activate or random holes in the architecture that lead somewhere. Some of these switches and holes are hidden out of vision with no hints as to their existence! Who designed these levels, sadists with an unusually random train of thought? Naturally, this means the game is hard. You'll spend a lot of time on this game, just figuring out where the hell you're supposed to go. So you'd think that this would make for a decent ending, right? Well, The Ooze suffers from Ghosts 'n Goblins Syndrome, throwing a crap ending at you for 100%ing it.
               While I'm bashing the game, I might as well bring up exploding enemies. Aside from collecting goo orbs, you also collect extra ooze by beating enemeis. However, kinda late in the game, you encounter exploding enemies. "No problem, right? I'll just collect a large amount of ooze, stay at a distance, and attack them with my oozy appendages." Not gonna work, Mr. Optimistic. Some of these enemies are actually dragged into you as soon as you beat them. And they explode within an inch of your life (literally). The only way to avoid this is to shoot your goo at them, which again, uses up health. Either way, you're gonna lose health.
               It's a shame that The Ooze sucks so hard, because there were some good ideas behind it. After all, who doesn't want to control a poisonous puddle of muck, destroying everything in that dares cross their path? And the idea itself is well executed, as I mentioned earlier. Graphics are decent, and the music pushes the limits of the system, so you'd think the game would be great, right? Too bad crap level design ruined the whole thing. So I give it the Chakan Award for Bad Genesis Level Design.

               *sigh* Well, it had to come to this eventually, didn't it? Gonna review Halo 3. I know a lot of you are going to bash my head in like a furious Sonic, but I'm going to state my opinion anyway! But first, a bit of useless backstory. On my experiences, obviously. Through a series of tough negotiations, I was allowed to borrow one Xbox 360 game from somebody. I chose Halo 3 just to see what the fuck everybody loved about it. Before I played the game, I found a poster in the box unclaimed. Why do I say this? Well, I already had a Halo 3 poster. Being the massive idiot I am, I now have two Halo 3 posters adorning my walls.
               However, none of this answered my original question: what's so great about Halo 3? After playing it for a few days (ooh, short game, not getting off to a good start), I can safely say that I still don't know what people love about it so much. I must admit that I didn't play the two previous Halo games, but why should I?; a truly great game doesn't have to use other games as a crutch. Given the previous, I had no idea what was going on storywise. Apparently, some purple chick was stolen, and bad aliens are trying to do something with their god that involves proposal rings of death. So some good aliens (who rebelled against the bad aliens) team up with you to win back th-I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF THIS!!! I seriously had no idea what was going on throughout the entire game, and although stories don't always hold back a game, it really helps to know what the hell you're doing.
               Whatever, I didn't understand the story, let's move onto something else. How about the mandatory gameplay explanation? Well, this is a first person shooter, and you get a variety of weapons, ranging from swords and hammers to rifles and grenade launchers. Too bad you can only carry two at a time. Why is there this asinine weapon limit on the player? To make it feel more realistic? First off.....no. Real soldiers are trained to carry pounds upon pounds of heavy equipment daily; I think Master Chief can live with another weapon. Second, why realism? Realism isn't always good. And this wouldn't be so bad if all your weapons could pick up and restock on ammo, but no, only a select few can. So you're forced to scavenge weapons on the fly, a strategy which usually gives you a shit weapon. I fail to see the appeal in this, one of the series' hallmark concepts.
               The other hallmark of the series? The cover system. Rather than a simple HP system that would encourage conservation, strategy, and not running in like Rambo, you get regenerating health. If you're low on health, don't worry; just find something to hide behind, and you'll get it back. It doesn't even have to be decent cover, since enemies suddenly forget of your existence if you happen to hide behind a nearby pebble. It removes all strategy from battle, all of them devolving into one common tactic: pump the aliens full of lead until they're completely magnetic, hiding behind anything if you lose enough health. However, unlike the limited inventory, I can see how this might have worked. If Bungie decided to make a Vietnam based shooter, where the atmosphere and scenarios would have encouraged active cover and plodding combat, then I (and gamers worldwide) would most likely enjoy it more. After all, how many Vietnam based shooters have you played? Exactly. But instead, Bungie wanted to have their cake and eat it, too (original meaning heauh), by making it a crappy action-oriented FPS.
               Wait, I can hear it now. "Vincent, you can't call Halo 3 crap!" Yes, I can. Shut up. "But there have to be some good things about it, like the graphics." No, and I told you to shut up. The graphics are OK. At times, it looks a bit like Ninja Gaiden II, and I thought that game had decent graphics...most of the time. Howevecr, Halo 3 has some sort of lighting problem; the game constantly osscilates between "surface of the sun" and "dear God, I'm blind." I tried turning up the

Where I would rank this game.
Where I would rank this game.
brightn ess both on my television and the game itself, yet neither fixed the problem. Maybe there should've been a feature to bring down the contrast, maybe? Aw, who the hell am I kidding, nothing could make this game better. I tried listening to music from good games while playing it, thinking that would make the game better, but like Duke Nukem 64, it fixed nothing. The deployable cover system remained useless; the final boss was still piss easy; the combat was still mindless and patronizing; and the story was still more confusing than the damn Voynich manuscript.
               Seriously, what has happened to gaming that this is considered good? This game is not good at all. I'd say this is what happens when you apply film philosophies to the video game medium, but that would sound pretentious. Besides, Final Fantasy XII displays that with far more gusto than Halo 3 ever could. No, wait, I will say that is what happens when you do what I just said. The story is up its own ass far enough, and the music is the passive ambiance crap you see (OK, hear) in big name movies. Why do you think I listened to all that music? I came into this game expecting a fantastic adventure, but I wouldn't rank this in my top 10 games of all time. I wouldn't even put it in my top 20. I don't know where I'd put it, but it definitely goes below my crap threshold (the point where games stop being good and start sucking). So I give this game the Kefka was Onto Something Award for Destruction of Humanity, and await your inevitable complaints, whether they're directed at my actual opinion, or towards the length of this blog. And of course, there are alternatives...

  

(Oh, that reminds me of a few things I forgot, like how the vehicles control like crap, or how your allies can't be trusted with 4th grade safety scissors. Just had to put that in here.)
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In pseudo-relevance, I played Oni on my PC today. :P

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Because I used to play it? DURRRR think before you speak. and I say what I say about you because it's obvious, you say the game has terrible multiplayer and singleplayer, yet you've barely even done anything in either of them, and I bet you never even used forge...EVER."
Oh, USED to play it. Sorry, but maybe you should have included that vital piece of information in your post. And again, ad hominem. Avoid it. I played the single player campaign to the end on Normal difficulty, what more could you want? Playing it on a higher difficulty is like being given a selection of poorly cooked pizzas to chose from, the only difference between them all being how long they were left out. And when I said I didn't play multiplayer, I meant I had nothing to do with it, Forge included. What's the point of Forge if I'm only doing single player?

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"In pseudo-relevance, I played Oni on my PC today. :P"
Don't know what that is, only the vaguest clue. (Had something to do with crows :P.)

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Blah blah blah I like food

Crap, all one paragraph when I post it! Going to have to replace it with something stupid and short, yet doesn't insult the author!

On subject: at least somebody came forward with it. But I honestly came into it wanting to know what people loved about it. I hadn't played a Halo game before, if that counts for anything. I usually want a game to get to the top, I really do (that's what I expected with Panzer Dragoon Zwei, for example). This one didn't.

And which points? The ones I followed up with or the original argument? And my argument is that, "if the developers advertised it as such, then they must want me to focus on this instead of that." Seems like a somewhat valid argument; worked for severalgamesbeforeit.

Sorry, but the game was advertised for its story as well (or at least I've heard that the story was good), so I'll compare it to games with good stories. Want an FPS? Fine, BioShock. Again? Portal. Those games had better stories and came out around the same time.
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Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Because I used to play it? DURRRR think before you speak. and I say what I say about you because it's obvious, you say the game has terrible multiplayer and singleplayer, yet you've barely even done anything in either of them, and I bet you never even used forge...EVER."
Oh, USED to play it. Sorry, but maybe you should have included that vital piece of information in your post. And again, ad hominem. Avoid it. I played the single player campaign to the end on Normal difficulty, what more could you want? Playing it on a higher difficulty is like being given a selection of poorly cooked pizzas to chose from, the only difference between them all being how long they were left out. And when I said I didn't play multiplayer, I meant I had nothing to do with it, Forge included. What's the point of Forge if I'm only doing single player?

Exactly my fucking point, why the fuck are you commenting on the multiplayer saying it's terrible when you haven't even touched the damn thing.
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CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Because I used to play it? DURRRR think before you speak. and I say what I say about you because it's obvious, you say the game has terrible multiplayer and singleplayer, yet you've barely even done anything in either of them, and I bet you never even used forge...EVER."
Oh, USED to play it. Sorry, but maybe you should have included that vital piece of information in your post. And again, ad hominem. Avoid it. I played the single player campaign to the end on Normal difficulty, what more could you want? Playing it on a higher difficulty is like being given a selection of poorly cooked pizzas to chose from, the only difference between them all being how long they were left out. And when I said I didn't play multiplayer, I meant I had nothing to do with it, Forge included. What's the point of Forge if I'm only doing single player?

Exactly my fucking point, why the fuck are you commenting on the multiplayer saying it's terrible when you haven't even touched the damn thing."
Because naturally, many of the same problems I encountered in single player will not be fixed. Is the health system revamped? Do I get to carry more weapons? Have the vehicles been fixed? Plus there's the fact that the community is full of immature 12 year olds, and that a multiplayer game is only as good as the people you're playing with.
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Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Because I used to play it? DURRRR think before you speak. and I say what I say about you because it's obvious, you say the game has terrible multiplayer and singleplayer, yet you've barely even done anything in either of them, and I bet you never even used forge...EVER."
Oh, USED to play it. Sorry, but maybe you should have included that vital piece of information in your post. And again, ad hominem. Avoid it. I played the single player campaign to the end on Normal difficulty, what more could you want? Playing it on a higher difficulty is like being given a selection of poorly cooked pizzas to chose from, the only difference between them all being how long they were left out. And when I said I didn't play multiplayer, I meant I had nothing to do with it, Forge included. What's the point of Forge if I'm only doing single player?

Exactly my fucking point, why the fuck are you commenting on the multiplayer saying it's terrible when you haven't even touched the damn thing."
Because naturally, many of the same problems I encountered in single player will not be fixed. Is the health system revamped? Do I get to carry more weapons? Have the vehicles been fixed? Plus there's the fact that the community is full of immature 12 year olds, and that a multiplayer game is only as good as the people you're playing with."
You are so ignorant it isn't even funny. So now all games with singleplayer the multiplayer is exactly the same as multiplayer? Hmmm. Interesting.
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CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Because I used to play it? DURRRR think before you speak. and I say what I say about you because it's obvious, you say the game has terrible multiplayer and singleplayer, yet you've barely even done anything in either of them, and I bet you never even used forge...EVER."
Oh, USED to play it. Sorry, but maybe you should have included that vital piece of information in your post. And again, ad hominem. Avoid it. I played the single player campaign to the end on Normal difficulty, what more could you want? Playing it on a higher difficulty is like being given a selection of poorly cooked pizzas to chose from, the only difference between them all being how long they were left out. And when I said I didn't play multiplayer, I meant I had nothing to do with it, Forge included. What's the point of Forge if I'm only doing single player?

Exactly my fucking point, why the fuck are you commenting on the multiplayer saying it's terrible when you haven't even touched the damn thing."
Because naturally, many of the same problems I encountered in single player will not be fixed. Is the health system revamped? Do I get to carry more weapons? Have the vehicles been fixed? Plus there's the fact that the community is full of immature 12 year olds, and that a multiplayer game is only as good as the people you're playing with."
You are so ignorant it isn't even funny. So now all games with singleplayer the multiplayer is exactly the same as multiplayer? Hmmm. Interesting."
don't even bother anymore. the dudes getting really desperate now with each post.

a quick note to the topic creator: i don't think developers have the last word on how their games are advertised. i'll leave it at that
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You are so ignorant it isn't even funny. So now all games with singleplayer the multiplayer is exactly the same as multiplayer? Hmmm. Interesting."
If the multiplayer game runs on the same engine as the singe player, then yes, they are bound to be very similar. Brawl's single player played the same as its multiplayer, the only difference being the frame around it. Can you name several games that play INCREDIBLY differently between single and multiplayer? I'll go check: Mario Kart, Phantom Hourglass, Double Dragon (although I shouldn't count that due to how it was criticized for doing so), Fire Emblem (although that wasn't a major part of the game, or a good one), and that's all I can name without going any further due to how huge the list is. OK, you've proven to me that this logic does not apply to every game, but in this scenario, it does. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better.
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luce said:
don't even bother anymore. the dudes getting really desperate now with each post.a quick note to the topic creator: i don't think developers have the last word on how their games are advertised. i'll leave it at that"
How so? I imagine a game developer has some sort of influence on how their games are advertised. After all, if they want their games to be successful (and they do), they'll probably want it advertised as best they can. That probably means they're going to be involved quite a bit in the advertisement process.
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Video_Game_King said:
. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better."
LOL, that doesn't even make sense. I dislike the singleplayer in Street Fighter 4 but the multiplayer is far superior and I love it and in this scenario, it doesn't it's different from single player, that's fact. You wouldn't even know beings as you never played. So just stop talking.
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CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better."
LOL, that doesn't even make sense. I dislike the singleplayer in Street Fighter 4 but the multiplayer is far superior and I love it and in this scenario, it doesn't it's different from single player, that's fact. You wouldn't even know beings as you never played. So just stop talking."
Perhaps I worded that poorly. My bad. The point I'm trying to make is that central gameplay problems are central gameplay problems, and the number of players won't change that. You'll have to fix those problems in one mode rather than just cover it up with single/multiplayer covers.
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Video_Game_King said:
"luce said:
don't even bother anymore. the dudes getting really desperate now with each post.a quick note to the topic creator: i don't think developers have the last word on how their games are advertised. i'll leave it at that"
How so? I imagine a game developer has some sort of influence on how their games are advertised. After all, if they want their games to be successful (and they do), they'll probably want it advertised as best they can. That probably means they're going to be involved quite a bit in the advertisement process."
The game company (EA or Squenix etc.) will tell whoever they hired to do the ad campaign to emphasize more on what will sell..i'll give you an example but i really don't want to get carried away with this silly argument.

plus i'd imagine you're getting massive enjoyment having so many people comment on this topic
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Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better."
LOL, that doesn't even make sense. I dislike the singleplayer in Street Fighter 4 but the multiplayer is far superior and I love it and in this scenario, it doesn't it's different from single player, that's fact. You wouldn't even know beings as you never played. So just stop talking."
Perhaps I worded that poorly. My bad. The point I'm trying to make is that central gameplay problems are central gameplay problems, and the number of players won't change that. You'll have to fix those problems in one mode rather than just cover it up with single/multiplayer covers."
and what are these massive problems you keep talking about exactly?
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luce said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"luce said:
don't even bother anymore. the dudes getting really desperate now with each post.a quick note to the topic creator: i don't think developers have the last word on how their games are advertised. i'll leave it at that"
How so? I imagine a game developer has some sort of influence on how their games are advertised. After all, if they want their games to be successful (and they do), they'll probably want it advertised as best they can. That probably means they're going to be involved quite a bit in the advertisement process."
The game company (EA or Squenix etc.) will tell whoever they hired to do the ad campaign to emphasize more on what will sell..i'll give you an example but i really don't want to get carried away with this silly argument. plus i'd imagine you're getting massive enjoyment having so many people comment on this topic"
Yea, pretty much :P. (And honestly, I only reply to posts when I can think of a reply.)

CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better."
LOL, that doesn't even make sense. I dislike the singleplayer in Street Fighter 4 but the multiplayer is far superior and I love it and in this scenario, it doesn't it's different from single player, that's fact. You wouldn't even know beings as you never played. So just stop talking."
Perhaps I worded that poorly. My bad. The point I'm trying to make is that central gameplay problems are central gameplay problems, and the number of players won't change that. You'll have to fix those problems in one mode rather than just cover it up with single/multiplayer covers."
and what are these massive problems you keep talking about exactly?"
The health system, limited inventory, crap vehicles, those sort of things.
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Video_Game_King said:
"luce said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"luce said:
don't even bother anymore. the dudes getting really desperate now with each post.a quick note to the topic creator: i don't think developers have the last word on how their games are advertised. i'll leave it at that"
How so? I imagine a game developer has some sort of influence on how their games are advertised. After all, if they want their games to be successful (and they do), they'll probably want it advertised as best they can. That probably means they're going to be involved quite a bit in the advertisement process."
The game company (EA or Squenix etc.) will tell whoever they hired to do the ad campaign to emphasize more on what will sell..i'll give you an example but i really don't want to get carried away with this silly argument. plus i'd imagine you're getting massive enjoyment having so many people comment on this topic"
Yea, pretty much :P. (And honestly, I only reply to posts when I can think of a reply.)

CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
. If a fighting game's single player campaign is shit, chances are the multiplayer won't fare much better."
LOL, that doesn't even make sense. I dislike the singleplayer in Street Fighter 4 but the multiplayer is far superior and I love it and in this scenario, it doesn't it's different from single player, that's fact. You wouldn't even know beings as you never played. So just stop talking."
Perhaps I worded that poorly. My bad. The point I'm trying to make is that central gameplay problems are central gameplay problems, and the number of players won't change that. You'll have to fix those problems in one mode rather than just cover it up with single/multiplayer covers."
and what are these massive problems you keep talking about exactly?"
The health system, limited inventory, crap vehicles, those sort of things."
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use....
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Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:

Legend of Legaia: Not that good.
Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.
Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.
Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.
Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.
Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.

See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P.
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Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:Legend of Legaia: Not that good.Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P."
Ummm, read better, NONE of those are FPSs which use the exact same system as halo does for inventory and health. Everything you have said so far has been completely moronic. First of all you didn't even know how to use the deployable cover, yup you played the game a lot, secondly you judge the multiplayer based on singleplayer. Which is also something completley moronic you did. Fact is, it seems you just are not into the FPS genre in general and seem to enjoy blaming Halo for that for some reason.
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CL60 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:Legend of Legaia: Not that good.Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P."
Ummm, read better, NONE of those are FPSs which use the exact same system as halo does for inventory and health. Everything you have said so far has been completely moronic. First of all you didn't even know how to use the deployable cover, yup you played the game a lot, secondly you judge the multiplayer based on singleplayer. Which is also something completley moronic you did. Fact is, it seems you just are not into the FPS genre in general and seem to enjoy blaming Halo for that for some reason."
OK, lemme read the post again:

You must hate most games if you think this inventory and heatlh system are game breaking problems...

Nothing about FPSes in there. No genre qualifications. It just says "most games." I provided examples, again, not genre specific. What more could you ask for? And yes, I didn't know how to use the damn deployable cover system, but the fact that I got through most of the game without any problems regarding it makes it seem less important than I was led to believe. I tried getting through one level without using my weapons at all, and that was pretty damn hard. Therefore, weapons are important. And I'm judging multiplayer based on central gameplay concepts, as I said before. You claim my arguments are moronic and result mostly to ad hominem. Let me list off all the FPSes I've played to memory:

Goldeneye 007: Loved it.
Perfect Dark: Loved it.
Turok: Good game.
Duke Nukem 64: Not really that good.
Doom: Depends on what version we're talking about.
BioShock: 9th best game ever.
Orange Box: Really, how can anybody hate this game?
Black: Actually worse than Halo.
King Kong: Decent game, even without a HUD.
Geist: Eh, OK, I guess.
Metroid Prime 1-3 and Hunters: Great games. (I've heard people call these FPSes, so why not?)

Seems I've liked most of the FPSes I've played. Halo 3 is the only one up there (besides Doom for the 32X, Duke Nukem 64, and Black). In addition to ad hominem, you also seem to be using some odd variant of the Nirvana fallacy.
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I should congratulate youVideo_Game_King. You have managed to anger a lot of people with your poorly concieved tl;dr and loads of hyperlinks.
Know what I think? (what I think being an opinion and not a fact) I think that you don't like FPS games and are therefore using something popular (Halo) as a scapegoat for your counter-culture argument, in which you basically say that you don't like a game because you don't like how the genre works.

4 of the 6 games you listed are J-RPGs, which show your preferences in an instant. And while we are talking about Shit controls, repetitive combat, and Limited inventory, you have RE2 on your list. Hypocrisy much?

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Let me just say, of course it's going to be easy to get through the game without deployable cover on Normal, go play Legendary. By the way you clearly have no idea about anything in this game I would say you will get completely destroyed.

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Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:Legend of Legaia: Not that good.Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P."

Translation:  I suck at it therefor it is bad. Seriously I have nothing wrong with someone disliking Halo. Im not that big of a fan myself. But saying the game has bad controls baffles me to no end. The reason Halo is such a popular franchise is because solid easy to learn control scheme. In fact almost every modern console shooter is based on Halo's controls. I would love to hear what you would have to say about more technical shooters.

And yes  you obviously are not Yahtzee as nothing you have said thus far has been even remotely funny.
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First, grammar is your friend. I know the education system has been on a steady decline for the past decade or so, but take it upon yourself to learn basic sentence and paragraph structure. Full stops, semi-colons, proper paragraph indentation... All of these will make me 70% more likely to read what you write.

Secondly, you are trying to prove (like all of those who came before you) that a blockbuster game was, in fact, bad. What you said about game reviewers somehow snickering behind their sleeves at us for buying games like Halo 3 is... I mean, I don't even know what you were trying to do there, but it didn't work. Now, as for trying to prove to people that Halo 3 (the only reason I don't address the other game is because I haven't played it and therefore can't comment) is a bad game, you would do far better without conjecture and sweeping generalities, ie, "myself and many other people." Unless you have facts to back that claim, you cannot speak for anyone but yourself, so you cannot claim to know the opinions of any other people, much less many.

I... God, I can't go through another of these. It seems everyday we get another "this game sucks" thread or another tragic console defense thread.

Halo 3 was good. That is all.

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"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:Legend of Legaia: Not that good.Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P."

Translation:  I suck at it therefor it is bad. Seriously I have nothing wrong with someone disliking Halo. Im not that big of a fan myself. But saying the game has bad controls baffles me to no end. The reason Halo is such a popular franchise is because solid easy to learn control scheme. In fact almost every modern console shooter is based on Halo's controls. I would love to hear what you would have to say about more technical shooters.

And yes  you obviously are not Yahtzee as nothing you have said thus fair has even remotely funny.
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Exactly.
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End_Boss said:
"First, grammar is your friend. I know the education system has been on a steady decline for the past decade or so, but take it upon yourself to learn basic sentence and paragraph structure. Full stops, semi-colons, proper paragraph indentation... All of these will make me 70% more likely to read what you write.

Secondly, you are trying to prove (like all of those who came before you) that a blockbuster game was, in fact, bad. What you said about game reviewers somehow snickering behind their sleeves at us for buying games like Halo 3 is... I mean, I don't even know what you were trying to do there, but it didn't work. Now, as for trying to prove to people that Halo 3 (the only reason I don't address the other game is because I haven't played it and therefore can't comment) is a bad game, you would do far better without conjecture and sweeping generalities, ie, "myself and many other people." Unless you have facts to back that claim, you cannot speak for anyone but yourself, so you cannot claim to know the opinions of any other people, much less many.I... God, I can't go through another of these. It seems everyday we get another "this game sucks" thread or another tragic console defense thread.Halo 3 was good. That is all."
People have already complained about my structure, and I don't fault them for it. But at least I'm trying. The sentences are properly structured, I tried my best to paragraph it, and the lack of a tab function means I have to hold down the space bar for a few seconds.

Second, I was half jokingly trying to make a decent title for the blog. Keep in mind that it was a half joke. Whether or not it was funny is up to you guys (apparently it wasn't), but given that it was a joke, I don't think it should've been taken so seriously. And the conjecture thing...OK, I get it, more specific. Wow, a surprisingly good post. But honestly, I only posted this because I review (if I can call these blogs that) every game I beat; if I beat, say, Metal Gear Solid 4 or Madworld, I'd review those. But I haven't, so I won't for the time being.

ArbitraryWater said:
"I should congratulate youVideo_Game_King. You have managed to anger a lot of people with your poorly concieved tl;dr and loads of hyperlinks.
Know what I think? (what I think being an opinion and not a fact) I think that you don't like FPS games and are therefore using something popular (Halo) as a scapegoat for your counter-culture argument, in which you basically say that you don't like a game because you don't like how the genre works.

4 of the 6 games you listed are J-RPGs, which show your preferences in an instant. And while we are talking about Shit controls, repetitive combat, and Limited inventory, you have RE2 on your list. Hypocrisy much?
"
I like how people say "tl;dr", and then bash me as if they've read it. I know that sounds kinda stupid, but I'm just throwing this out there. And again, check the other post. I grew up with FPSes (and platformers and beat em ups, but that's not the point); I've played many good FPSes; I know what a bad FPS is. I'm not using this one game as a martyr, I just happened to not like this one game. And don't equate Halo's tactics to the whole genre; Half Life 2 used some old ideas, and the shooting parts worked. I'm reviewing one game. If I later find out that many games are trying to be like Halo, then I'll criticize them if they don't pull off those elements well. But I haven't played those games, so I can't speak for modern FPSes.

CL60 said:
"Let me just say, of course it's going to be easy to get through the game without deployable cover on Normal, go play Legendary. By the way you clearly have no idea about anything in this game I would say you will get completely destroyed."
So wait, the fact that I don't like a game means I don't know how it works? And I like to play all games on Normal difficulty, since that's most often the best way to represent a game; you can't complain about a game being balls-to-the-wall hard if you're playing it on the highest difficulty.

Nexas said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"CL60 said:
Um, those are not even problems, you must hate most games if you think this inventory and health system are game breaking problems and vehicles are really easy to use...."
Yes, those are problems. Combat gets really repetitive and mindless when you follow one strategy over and over again; limited inventory is just, well, stupid; and shit controls are always a problem. I'm not sure there has ever been a game that capitalized on crap controls and made it its own. And honestly, I don't hate most games. Proof? Let's take the games I'm playing right now:Legend of Legaia: Not that good.Shin Megami Tensei: Decent, even with a few flaws.Star Ocean 2: Great game, gotta get back to it.Lost Odyssey: Good game, same problem as before.Okami: Great game, looks fantastic, same as the other two.Resident Evil 2: Better than the previous one for reasons I can't understand.See? I actually like video games. I'm not some hate filled being, like Zeromus are Yahtzee :P."

Translation:  I suck at it therefor it is bad. Seriously I have nothing wrong with someone disliking Halo. Im not that big of a fan myself. But saying the game has bad controls baffles me to no end. The reason Halo is such a popular franchise is because solid easy to learn control scheme. In fact almost every modern console shooter is based on Halo's controls. I would love to hear what you would have to say about more technical shooters.

And yes  you obviously are not Yahtzee as nothing you have said thus fair has even remotely funny.
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Where have I said I suck at it? I suck at Mario Kart, Battletoads, and several other games, but I still like them. And I'm saying that the driving sections have bad controls; you steer with the camera, but the steering is a bit delayed for some weird reason. In a situation where you have to be quick (like the end of the game, maybe?), this can be pretty f'ing obstructive to enjoying the game. The rest of the controls are OK. I'm not complaining about the controls, I'm complaning about other aspects entirely.

Wow, harsh! At least I'm trying, though.
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Video_Game_King said:
"None of them have to rely on the game before them to be good."
No, they just have to rely on the game before them to sell.
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"Video_Game_King said:
"None of them have to rely on the game before them to be good."
No, they just have to rely on the game before them to sell."
It would've helped if you quoted it in context. I assume that was Final Fantasy, and to an extent, you're right. However, from a critical standpoint, they're all separate from each other, which, in theory, means they have to stand on their own feet.
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Okay, I have one more thing to say.

Video Game King, if you have not played the multiplayer portion of Halo 3 extensively, you cannot use it as part of your argument for the game being bad. Can't. Don't work. Broke.

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"Okay, I have one more thing to say.

Video Game King, if you have not played the multiplayer portion of Halo 3 extensively, you cannot use it as part of your argument for the game being bad. Can't. Don't work. Broke."
OK, fair enough. Hell, the only reason I debated about it so furiously was because somebody else brought it up. I just pointed out that the problems in single player probably won't evaporate when more people come along to play.
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"My first complaint with your blog is that you never go back to the topic of the title.  Your title is  "Anyone else think game critics are playing a big prank on gamers? " which leads readers to think that you are going to talk about how some critics are pressured into giving good scores to games that does not deserve them for money (i.e. the main cause for this sites existence), yet you never even touch that subject.  Instead you talked about how you believe Halo 3 and The Ooze are overrated which are two completely different topics.  You should've just made the title.  "Halo  and The Ooze are hideously overrated."

My second complaint is that you say these games are overrated be expressing it as a fact.  It's just your opinion and should be stated as such.  If you believe I'm wrong and your opinion is a fact then how can you prove it?  You can't.  No one can.  But I can prove that Halo 3 is loved and played by many which can attest to how much fun the game is.  Essentially thats what it is all about.  It is about having fun and Halo 3 delivers on it for most people.
1) Has a huge community that is supported by the developers.  (bungie)
2) All three games are the best-selling games for their respective system.  (wiki)
3) Halo 3 is the most played game over xbox live for the past two years.  (2008)(2007) 
4) Loved by the majority of critics (metacritic)My third complaint is that Halo is not realistic and it is not trying to be.  The only reason why you can hold two weapons is for balance.  Thats it.  It is a multiplayer game after all.  Besides your arguement about how soldiers are trained to carry X amount of weight.  Well Master Chief is wearing armor thats suppose to be freaking heavy.  No real soldier can withstand that amount of weight.  My fourth and final complaint is that you complain about there not being a cover system.  Halo is a first person shooter.  I have never seen a first person shooter with a cover system.  If you want a cover system play a game such Rainbow Six or GRAW.  Also, you better be complaining about Call of Duty, because that game is the same way.Now I have never played the Ooze so I am not even going touch on that game."
That was a half-joke to lead into two examples of those. I thought it was OK, but at least I can see your problem with it. But who would've read a blog about The Ooze :P?

Wait, so if I say the game is crap, I can't prove it, but you can prove the game rocks by the fact that many people say it rocks? How exactly does that work? Does the louder voice win? At least be consistent. Can't prove the game rocks, can't prove the game is crap.

How can Halo and Halo 2 be the best selling game for one system? I find that weird. (Just saying.)

I can get other critics who found it overrated, like Yahtzee or GameSpy. (Overrated in a bad way, obviously.)If it's not trying to be realistic, why is it placing arbitrary limits on me? A lack of realism is all about a lack of limits, just like Halo 3 (from my point of view) is all about the single player campaign. Look at the ads. They said "finish the fight," which, as I interpret it, means that the story wasn't finished in the first two and must be in this one. Seems to imply a single player focus, right? After all, how many games have told their story through capture the flag or deathmatch? And I believe real soldiers are trained to wear heavy body armor and helmets and etc. The name "supersoldier" sort of implies that the capabilities of Master Chief should be above those of regular soldiers, and given how he's the only one in the armor, the game seems to support this notion. So why can't he carry more weapons? Is it a weight issue? Then why not make a weight system in the game, sort of like Counter Strike (run faster with the knife, remember that?). And as I recall, I complained about how the game focuses too much on the cover system while simultaneously trying to be a kickass action game. You can't have both, Bungie. (I can't complain about COD due to a lack of having ever played it.)"
1) Halo 2 best selling game on Xbox.  Halo CE second best selling game on xbox.  Problem solved.

2)  From my understanding of you is that you like to play majority single player games.  Mainly RPG's, for its your preferred Genre.  If that is the case then why did you bother playing Halo 3.   Did you expect to get a good story out of an FPS, for if that is the fact then you readjust you evaulation for analyzing Halo for what its not and not for what it is.

Also, did you play the other games.  If you didn't why would you expect being able to understand whats going on?  If you want to know what is happening in Halo you have to play it from the starts.  Thats why its a trilogy and the them is "Finish the Fight."  If you don't start from the beginning or research the beginning then you won't know what the fight is about.

Another thing if you want to win in multiplayer and get to 50 you have to have good teamwork or your going to get beat.  This isn't a game where you can kill or be killed in one hit so it is a lot harder to kill a player let alone, two or three at a time.

Back to the catch phrase topic.  Sinced you mention Halo's "Finish the Fight" I really have to slame another game.  A game that seriously needs to change its theme is Resident Evil 5.  "Fear you can't forget?"  Seriously WTF.

Edit:  To clarify I'm only responding not only because I feel you opinion is wrong, but just because there are things you said  that could easily be argued against.  You should pick better words next time.

I do feel that Halo deserves everything it gets because it has cured the disease of boredom for more souls than any other game on the 360.  :P 
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I wouldn't say the steering is bad on the Warthog.  It was deliberatly designed to not have a lot of traction.  Been like that from the beginning and I would not have it any other way.


If you want to try a game with some really bad vehicle steering.  I would recommend playing Gears of War 2.  In my opinion that had some really bad vehicle controls while Resident Evil gets my vote for worst player controls in an action game.
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tbone81889 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"tbone81889 said:
"My first complaint with your blog is that you never go back to the topic of the title.  Your title is  "Anyone else think game critics are playing a big prank on gamers? " which leads readers to think that you are going to talk about how some critics are pressured into giving good scores to games that does not deserve them for money (i.e. the main cause for this sites existence), yet you never even touch that subject.  Instead you talked about how you believe Halo 3 and The Ooze are overrated which are two completely different topics.  You should've just made the title.  "Halo  and The Ooze are hideously overrated."

My second complaint is that you say these games are overrated be expressing it as a fact.  It's just your opinion and should be stated as such.  If you believe I'm wrong and your opinion is a fact then how can you prove it?  You can't.  No one can.  But I can prove that Halo 3 is loved and played by many which can attest to how much fun the game is.  Essentially thats what it is all about.  It is about having fun and Halo 3 delivers on it for most people.
1) Has a huge community that is supported by the developers.  (bungie)
2) All three games are the best-selling games for their respective system.  (wiki)
3) Halo 3 is the most played game over xbox live for the past two years.  (2008)(2007) 
4) Loved by the majority of critics (metacritic)My third complaint is that Halo is not realistic and it is not trying to be.  The only reason why you can hold two weapons is for balance.  Thats it.  It is a multiplayer game after all.  Besides your arguement about how soldiers are trained to carry X amount of weight.  Well Master Chief is wearing armor thats suppose to be freaking heavy.  No real soldier can withstand that amount of weight.  My fourth and final complaint is that you complain about there not being a cover system.  Halo is a first person shooter.  I have never seen a first person shooter with a cover system.  If you want a cover system play a game such Rainbow Six or GRAW.  Also, you better be complaining about Call of Duty, because that game is the same way.Now I have never played the Ooze so I am not even going touch on that game."
That was a half-joke to lead into two examples of those. I thought it was OK, but at least I can see your problem with it. But who would've read a blog about The Ooze :P?

Wait, so if I say the game is crap, I can't prove it, but you can prove the game rocks by the fact that many people say it rocks? How exactly does that work? Does the louder voice win? At least be consistent. Can't prove the game rocks, can't prove the game is crap.

How can Halo and Halo 2 be the best selling game for one system? I find that weird. (Just saying.)

I can get other critics who found it overrated, like Yahtzee or GameSpy. (Overrated in a bad way, obviously.)If it's not trying to be realistic, why is it placing arbitrary limits on me? A lack of realism is all about a lack of limits, just like Halo 3 (from my point of view) is all about the single player campaign. Look at the ads. They said "finish the fight," which, as I interpret it, means that the story wasn't finished in the first two and must be in this one. Seems to imply a single player focus, right? After all, how many games have told their story through capture the flag or deathmatch? And I believe real soldiers are trained to wear heavy body armor and helmets and etc. The name "supersoldier" sort of implies that the capabilities of Master Chief should be above those of regular soldiers, and given how he's the only one in the armor, the game seems to support this notion. So why can't he carry more weapons? Is it a weight issue? Then why not make a weight system in the game, sort of like Counter Strike (run faster with the knife, remember that?). And as I recall, I complained about how the game focuses too much on the cover system while simultaneously trying to be a kickass action game. You can't have both, Bungie. (I can't complain about COD due to a lack of having ever played it.)"
1) Halo 2 best selling game on Xbox.  Halo CE second best selling game on xbox.  Problem solved.

2)  From my understanding of you is that you like to play majority single player games.  Mainly RPG's, for its your preferred Genre.  If that is the case then why did you bother playing Halo 3.   Did you expect to get a good story out of an FPS, for if that is the fact then you readjust you evaulation for analyzing Halo for what its not and not for what it is.

Also, did you play the other games.  If you didn't why would you expect being able to understand whats going on?  If you want to know what is happening in Halo you have to play it from the starts.  Thats why its a trilogy and the them is "Finish the Fight."  If you don't start from the beginning or research the beginning then you won't know what the fight is about.

Another thing if you want to win in multiplayer and get to 50 you have to have good teamwork or your going to get beat.  This isn't a game where you can kill or be killed in one hit so it is a lot harder to kill a player let alone, two or three at a time.

Back to the catch phrase topic.  Sinced you mention Halo's "Finish the Fight" I really have to slame another game.  A game that seriously needs to change its theme is Resident Evil 5.  "Fear you can't forget?"  Seriously WTF.

Edit:  To clarify I'm only responding not only because I feel you opinion is wrong, but just because there are things you said  that could easily be argued against.  You should pick better words next time.

I do feel that Halo deserves everything it gets because it has cured the disease of boredom for more souls than any other game on the 360.  :P 
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I was arguing that they both can't be #1, but that's semantics.

Yes, I like single player games. And yes, I like RPGs. The reason I went with Halo 3 was because I was left with shooters, sandbox games, and Rock Band. Most of them were sequels, so I'd have the same problem either way. Might want to read the little intro, maybe. And on the story, I heard the story was great, and I expected a great story. As for my expectations, think of BioShock, which is better than some RPGs I've played.

50 what? I'm confused :(.

Haven't played RE5, but I've played RE4, so close enough :P.

And here's my opinion: there are better ways to cure boredom. And there are better ones on the 360.
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tbone81889 said:
"I wouldn't say the steering is bad on the Warthog.  It was deliberatly designed to not have a lot of traction.  Been like that from the beginning and I would not have it any other way.

If you want to try a game with some really bad vehicle steering.  I would recommend playing Gears of War 2.  In my opinion that had some really bad vehicle controls while Resident Evil gets my vote for worst player controls in an action game.
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I'd have it a better way. Like maybe the steering not being delayed.

Haven't played GoW2, so I wouldn't know.
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The steering isn't delayed.  The car just slides so it doesn't turn on a dime.

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Personally I think Halo 3 is a decent game, not great, but also not bad. The few Issues I had with it is that the last two levels are badly design and the sound design is also bad. I have 5.1 surround sound system and while playing through the game I noticed that the weapons sounded very muffled so I checkd my system and everything was good. At the end I came to the conclusion that the sound of the weapon are muffled because Master Chief wares a Helmet. I know its probably not the reason but  it's a good one none the less. 


The other issue I had with is that the plot is kinda over done and stale. I know most, if not all, buy it for the multi-player aspect but since I don't give a flying shit about multi-player I thought the plot was just there for the achievement points or to just make sure that the Halo developers can say " Look at us, we still know how to write a plot for this game."

Like I said before, Halo 3 is a good game but not great.
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"The steering isn't delayed.  The car just slides so it doesn't turn on a dime."
I found it to be delayed. You turn the analog stick, wait a second, and Chief steers it in your direction. And why not make it turn on a dime? What's wrong with that?
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Video_Game_King said:
"tbone81889 said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"tbone81889 said:
"My first complaint with your blog is that you never go back to the topic of the title.  Your title is  "Anyone else think game critics are playing a big prank on gamers? " which leads readers to think that you are going to talk about how some critics are pressured into giving good scores to games that does not deserve them for money (i.e. the main cause for this sites existence), yet you never even touch that subject.  Instead you talked about how you believe Halo 3 and The Ooze are overrated which are two completely different topics.  You should've just made the title.  "Halo  and The Ooze are hideously overrated."

My second complaint is that you say these games are overrated be expressing it as a fact.  It's just your opinion and should be stated as such.  If you believe I'm wrong and your opinion is a fact then how can you prove it?  You can't.  No one can.  But I can prove that Halo 3 is loved and played by many which can attest to how much fun the game is.  Essentially thats what it is all about.  It is about having fun and Halo 3 delivers on it for most people.
1) Has a huge community that is supported by the developers.  (bungie)
2) All three games are the best-selling games for their respective system.  (wiki)
3) Halo 3 is the most played game over xbox live for the past two years.  (2008)(2007) 
4) Loved by the majority of critics (metacritic)My third complaint is that Halo is not realistic and it is not trying to be.  The only reason why you can hold two weapons is for balance.  Thats it.  It is a multiplayer game after all.  Besides your arguement about how soldiers are trained to carry X amount of weight.  Well Master Chief is wearing armor thats suppose to be freaking heavy.  No real soldier can withstand that amount of weight.  My fourth and final complaint is that you complain about there not being a cover system.  Halo is a first person shooter.  I have never seen a first person shooter with a cover system.  If you want a cover system play a game such Rainbow Six or GRAW.  Also, you better be complaining about Call of Duty, because that game is the same way.Now I have never played the Ooze so I am not even going touch on that game."
That was a half-joke to lead into two examples of those. I thought it was OK, but at least I can see your problem with it. But who would've read a blog about The Ooze :P?

Wait, so if I say the game is crap, I can't prove it, but you can prove the game rocks by the fact that many people say it rocks? How exactly does that work? Does the louder voice win? At least be consistent. Can't prove the game rocks, can't prove the game is crap.

How can Halo and Halo 2 be the best selling game for one system? I find that weird. (Just saying.)

I can get other critics who found it overrated, like Yahtzee or GameSpy. (Overrated in a bad way, obviously.)If it's not trying to be realistic, why is it placing arbitrary limits on me? A lack of realism is all about a lack of limits, just like Halo 3 (from my point of view) is all about the single player campaign. Look at the ads. They said "finish the fight," which, as I interpret it, means that the story wasn't finished in the first two and must be in this one. Seems to imply a single player focus, right? After all, how many games have told their story through capture the flag or deathmatch? And I believe real soldiers are trained to wear heavy body armor and helmets and etc. The name "supersoldier" sort of implies that the capabilities of Master Chief should be above those of regular soldiers, and given how he's the only one in the armor, the game seems to support this notion. So why can't he carry more weapons? Is it a weight issue? Then why not make a weight system in the game, sort of like Counter Strike (run faster with the knife, remember that?). And as I recall, I complained about how the game focuses too much on the cover system while simultaneously trying to be a kickass action game. You can't have both, Bungie. (I can't complain about COD due to a lack of having ever played it.)"
1) Halo 2 best selling game on Xbox.  Halo CE second best selling game on xbox.  Problem solved.

2)  From my understanding of you is that you like to play majority single player games.  Mainly RPG's, for its your preferred Genre.  If that is the case then why did you bother playing Halo 3.   Did you expect to get a good story out of an FPS, for if that is the fact then you readjust you evaulation for analyzing Halo for what its not and not for what it is.

Also, did you play the other games.  If you didn't why would you expect being able to understand whats going on?  If you want to know what is happening in Halo you have to play it from the starts.  Thats why its a trilogy and the them is "Finish the Fight."  If you don't start from the beginning or research the beginning then you won't know what the fight is about.

Another thing if you want to win in multiplayer and get to 50 you have to have good teamwork or your going to get beat.  This isn't a game where you can kill or be killed in one hit so it is a lot harder to kill a player let alone, two or three at a time.

Back to the catch phrase topic.  Sinced you mention Halo's "Finish the Fight" I really have to slame another game.  A game that seriously needs to change its theme is Resident Evil 5.  "Fear you can't forget?"  Seriously WTF.

Edit:  To clarify I'm only responding not only because I feel you opinion is wrong, but just because there are things you said  that could easily be argued against.  You should pick better words next time.

I do feel that Halo deserves everything it gets because it has cured the disease of boredom for more souls than any other game on the 360.  :P 
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I was arguing that they both can't be #1, but that's semantics.Yes, I like single player games. And yes, I like RPGs. The reason I went with Halo 3 was because I was left with shooters, sandbox games, and Rock Band. Most of them were sequels, so I'd have the same problem either way. Might want to read the little intro, maybe. And on the story, I heard the story was great, and I expected a great story. As for my expectations, think of BioShock, which is better than some RPGs I've played.50 what? I'm confused :(.Haven't played RE5, but I've played RE4, so close enough :P.And here's my opinion: there are better ways to cure boredom. And there are better ones on the 360."
Bioshock was alright.  I was bugged too much by having to switch from gun ot magic   I'm glad they're fixing the design choice for the next one.
 The vitachambers where you respawned also made the game too easy.  The first time I faught a Big Daddy I was terrified.  After that I just kept throwing my body at them, died, respawned, and repeat. 

The 50 is the ranking system for Halo 3.  It runs off of true skill.   This means that after you play for a while you play against players with equal skill that way you get the most competitive match.  Something that the COD games have been missing.

lol yeah your right there are better ways to cure boredom.  Thats part of the reason why I cancelled my Xbox live account recently.  Well that and school.

Games that I am looking forward to because I do enjoy a great RPG is Dragon Age: Origins.  I love the fact that its made by Bioware and the spiritual successor to my favorite game of all time, Baldur's Gate (not the Playstation versions, but the PC.  Two completly different type of games.).  I actually just bought the trilogy on ebay  and I'm currently trying to play that when I'm not up writing papers.

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Probably because it would it would flip due to the physics.


Edit:  They made it that way to balance out the multiplayer.  If the Warthog could turn on a dime it would be two dominating.  That is also the reason behind how it is so easy to flip.  Just choices made to make the multiplayer more competitive and fun overall.
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I haven't played Halo 3, but your review seems a bit harsh sometimes. For example, you lament the ability to only carry two weapons. Now, this is actually a pretty nice limitation in most first person shooters. The fact is, a real person is not really capable of lugging around an entire armory. Real soldiers will only carry their main weapon, usually a rifle, along with a sidearm pistol on their thigh. Perhaps a LAW on their back, so that's three. A pretty low amount compared to the days of Doom, where you could collect 7 to 10 different weapons, and all their ammo. That was just silly, if you value some form of realism. And I think we all do, silly bullshit and unrestrained fantasy whoop-dee-woo doesn't generally go hand in hand with sophistication and good design. So the idea of making you choose your favored weapon loadout instead of having access to every gun laying on the ground is pretty awesome.

Now, that said... I think you're right in saying that this weapon limitation is bad in Halo 3. Why am I agreeing with you after having just said that I think limits on carrying guns is a good thing? Well, because Halo is not like most first person shooters. In most FPSs, you just play a regular human dude. With regular human limitations. The character you play in Halo is not just some human dude. The character you play in Halo is Master Chief, a super enhanced human being who has superhuman abilities. And that's before he dons his famous shiny green power armor. You see, this is why the weapon limitation is a bad idea... Master Chief is uniquely gifted and fluff-driven to be the sort of super soldier who would be able to carry an entire arsenal of guns. He *should* have the strength and power to lug rifles, shotguns, rocket launchers, and a gazillion grenades. After all, this is a guy who can flip tanks over if they fall on their side. A great feature that most other FPSs should have is sadly something awful and unnecessary in the Halo games.

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Oni was the project Bungie worked on before Halo. It was released on PC, PS2 and Mac. It's an alright game.

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Video_Game_King said:
People have already complained about my structure, and I don't fault them for it. But at least I'm trying. The sentences are properly structured, I tried my best to paragraph it, and the lack of a tab function means I have to hold down the space bar for a few seconds.

Hi, lemme introduce you to the enter key


Mordukai said:
"Personally I think Halo 3 is a decent game, not great, but also not bad. The few Issues I had with it is that the last two levels are badly design and the sound design is also bad. I have 5.1 surround sound system and while playing through the game I noticed that the weapons sounded very muffled so I checkd my system and everything was good. At the end I came to the conclusion that the sound of the weapon are muffled because Master Chief wares a Helmet. I know its probably not the reason but  it's a good one none the less. 

The other issue I had with is that the plot is kinda over done and stale. I know most, if not all, buy it for the multi-player aspect but since I don't give a flying shit about multi-player I thought the plot was just there for the achievement points or to just make sure that the Halo developers can say " Look at us, we still know how to write a plot for this game."

Like I said before, Halo 3 is a good game but not great.
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.....But since you don't give a flying shit about multiplayer you shouldn't be talking about the game. Campaign is what, 15 hours? compared to hundreds of hours of multiplayer...



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crunchUK said:
"Video_Game_King said:
People have already complained about my structure, and I don't fault them for it. But at least I'm trying. The sentences are properly structured, I tried my best to paragraph it, and the lack of a tab function means I have to hold down the space bar for a few seconds.

Hi, lemme introduce you to the enter key

I actually used the enter key. Do you want double spacing or something? Keep in mind that I tried my best with this. (At least you're not claiming stupid things, like I hate FPSes or that I'm crap at the game.)
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You have to admit that there are lots of games that are great but are just not your cup of tea.  Seriously, halo, whether or not you like the shooting style or gameplay, it is a great game, great multiplayer with so many options it is insane.  I don't like final fantasy games, or at least since 7, because they all became gay when they went onto the PS platform, except 9 seemed to go back to its roots.  seriously, why do some of the guys look like women?  And the lack of evolution of play is a turnoff now.  Lots of people dont like sports games, but that doesnt mean they are not good.  Pick your battles

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TheHBK said:
"You have to admit that there are lots of games that are great but are just not your cup of tea.  Seriously, halo, whether or not you like the shooting style or gameplay, it is a great game, great multiplayer with so many options it is insane.  I don't like final fantasy games, or at least since 7, because they all became gay when they went onto the PS platform, except 9 seemed to go back to its roots.  seriously, why do some of the guys look like women?  And the lack of evolution of play is a turnoff now.  Lots of people dont like sports games, but that doesnt mean they are not good.  Pick your battles"
No, again, I can separate between games that aren't for me and games that aren't good. I don't like Shadowrun, Herzog Zwei, and similar games, but I don't call them bad, mainly because I'm not accustomed to the respective genres. With Halo 3, I was. And how did Final Fantasy go gay after 7 (inclusive)? If anything, I remember a large part of 8 being Squall trying to get in Rinoa's pants.
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I like Halo 3, good multiplayer and  perfectly reasonable gameplay. I've managed to play it on and off since launch and it hasn't grown stale.

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"I like Halo 3, good multiplayer and  perfectly reasonable gameplay. I've managed to play it on and off since launch and it hasn't grown stale."
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is compared to mine :P.
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"Oriental_Jams said:
"I like Halo 3, good multiplayer and  perfectly reasonable gameplay. I've managed to play it on and off since launch and it hasn't grown stale."
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is compared to mine :P."
Funny, pretty much every game reviewer, every person paid to be critical of videogames, is on my side. But I'd guess there's just some sort of Microsoft conspiracy in there somewhere.
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Oriental_Jams said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"I like Halo 3, good multiplayer and  perfectly reasonable gameplay. I've managed to play it on and off since launch and it hasn't grown stale."
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is compared to mine :P."
Funny, pretty much every game reviewer, every person paid to be critical of videogames, is on my side. But I'd guess there's just some sort of Microsoft conspiracy in there somewhere."
Keep in mind that the ":P" denotes a joke. That it wasn't meant to be taken so seriously.
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Video_Game_King said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
"I like Halo 3, good multiplayer and  perfectly reasonable gameplay. I've managed to play it on and off since launch and it hasn't grown stale."
You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is compared to mine :P."
Funny, pretty much every game reviewer, every person paid to be critical of videogames, is on my side. But I'd guess there's just some sort of Microsoft conspiracy in there somewhere."
Keep in mind that the ":P" denotes a joke. That it wasn't meant to be taken so seriously."
I know that wasn't, but the original post was serious, no? Or at least I hope it was considering how long it was. Anyway, long story short, Halo 3 haters sind unrecht!
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I know that wasn't, but the original post was serious, no? Or at least I hope it was considering how long it was. Anyway, long story short, Halo 3 haters sind unrecht!"
Yes, the original post was serious. And I don't know German, so I'll assume that "sind unrecht" is German for "are wrong." And Google tells me that I'm right. So I'll respond with:

正確にはどうすれば悪いのですか?私は主張してきた、と私は確信している。これは非常に出てくるし、私はそれを目的として、このメッセージのスポットおそらくれません途切れる。ドラゴンクエストⅥ 。
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Video_Game_King said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
I know that wasn't, but the original post was serious, no? Or at least I hope it was considering how long it was. Anyway, long story short, Halo 3 haters sind unrecht!"
Yes, the original post was serious. And I don't know German, so I'll assume that "sind unrecht" is German for "are wrong." And Google tells me that I'm right. So I'll respond with:正確にはどうすれば悪いのですか?私は主張してきた、と私は確信している。これは非常に出てくるし、私はそれを目的として、このメッセージのスポットおそらくれません途切れる。ドラゴンクエストⅥ 。"
Something about breaking off then Dragon Quest VI.
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Oriental_Jams said:
"Video_Game_King said:
"Oriental_Jams said:
I know that wasn't, but the original post was serious, no? Or at least I hope it was considering how long it was. Anyway, long story short, Halo 3 haters sind unrecht!"
Yes, the original post was serious. And I don't know German, so I'll assume that "sind unrecht" is German for "are wrong." And Google tells me that I'm right. So I'll respond with:正確にはどうすれば悪いのですか?私は主張してきた、と私は確信している。これは非常に出てくるし、私はそれを目的として、このメッセージのスポットおそらくれません途切れる。ドラゴンクエストⅥ 。"
Something about breaking off then Dragon Quest VI."
To be honest, I don't even remember what I typed, other than that I justified my opinion well, and that Google would give you a crap translation.