Being the budget gamer that I am, I just came around to play Red Dead Redemption. It is like Rockstar looked into my soul, saw what game i would love and programmed it. But since it is "nit-picking-saturday" I won't go into detail how awesome it is but adress an issue I have with it: The lack of analog. No matter how hard you push the stick you walk. To run you have to tap the A button. While doing so, you have of course no control over the camera which leads to less control over hectic action-sequences, which leads to virtual death, which leads to anger in real life, which leads to broken controllers etc. etc.
I remember when Sony introduced the Dual-Shock 2. It finally brought us out of the dark ages  into a bright and flashy future. Shooters, Plattformer and Racing games alike could be controlled smoothly, everybody was happy and world peace was at hand. But Rockstar and Rocksteady (The creators of awesome Arkham Asylum) simply don't seem to share that opinion. It's like Mercedes Benz would say: "yeah, suspensions make a car better but we are not into that, sorry". 
Anyhow, that's what grinded my gears today. See you soon (maybe in another two years).

Being the budget gamer that I am, I just came around to play Red Dead Redemption. It is like Rockstar looked into my soul, saw what game i would love and programmed it. But since it is "nit-picking-saturday" I won't go into detail how awesome it is but adress an issue I have with it: The lack of analog. No matter how hard you push the stick you walk. To run you have to tap the A button. While doing so, you have of course no control over the camera which leads to less control over hectic action-sequences, which leads to virtual death, which leads to anger in real life, which leads to broken controllers etc. etc.
I remember when Sony introduced the Dual-Shock 2. It finally brought us out of the dark ages  into a bright and flashy future. Shooters, Plattformer and Racing games alike could be controlled smoothly, everybody was happy and world peace was at hand. But Rockstar and Rocksteady (The creators of awesome Arkham Asylum) simply don't seem to share that opinion. It's like Mercedes Benz would say: "yeah, suspensions make a car better but we are not into that, sorry". 
Anyhow, that's what grinded my gears today. See you soon (maybe in another two years).

Everyone feels your pain. I don't have a huge problem with it, but I think they could easily fix it. I think having R2 being run would be a great solution. I would say just have it vary on joystick sensitivity, but I feel that would make for weird moments when you just want to walk.Cover could easily be placed on Circle, while having Aim and Shoot be L1 and R1 respectively. Speaking of which, what the hell does L2 do again?

I don't recall that ever being an issue for me.

I don't recall that ever being an issue for me.

I died like once in that whole game. So glad they toned the difficulty back from GTA IV.

Index finger on A, thumb on the camera, works for me.
 
Thought gamers were supposed to be good with their hands?

was more of an issue in gta4 for me, in rdr you actually run if you have a gun out, and thats normally when it matters the most. 
i think they got it right with la noire in that regard - you run by holding down rt/r2  

It was barely ever a problem for me, and when i had to use all three at the same time I just used my chin :P

It took some time to getting used to, but after a few hours in, I had no problem with it and it now becomes second nature.

@TaliciaDragonsong: Sure you can do that, as long as you don't need to take cover (RB) and shoot your gun (RT). Was your second sentence a masturbation joke?  If so, good one. ;)

Being the budget gamer that I am, I just came around to play Red Dead Redemption. It is like Rockstar looked into my soul, saw what game i would love and programmed it. But since it is "nit-picking-saturday" I won't go into detail how awesome it is but adress an issue I have with it: The lack of analog. No matter how hard you push the stick you walk. To run you have to tap the A button. While doing so, you have of course no control over the camera which leads to less control over hectic action-sequences, which leads to virtual death, which leads to anger in real life, which leads to broken controllers etc. etc. I remember when Sony introduced the Dual-Shock 2. It finally brought us out of the dark ages  into a bright and flashy future. Shooters, Plattformer and Racing games alike could be controlled smoothly, everybody was happy and world peace was at hand. But Rockstar and Rocksteady (The creators of awesome Arkham Asylum) simply don't seem to share that opinion. It's like Mercedes Benz would say: "yeah, suspensions make a car better but we are not into that, sorry".  Anyhow, that's what grinded my gears today. See you soon (maybe in another two years).

I've never had an issue with this...ever.

@TaliciaDragonsong: Your index finger is already on the A/X Button, remember? I know how to grab a controller but operating A for Sprint, right stick for camera and RT for shooting is simply impossible unless you have an awesome tentacle beard like Davy Jones.

@Strongschwartz said:

@TaliciaDragonsong: Sure you can do that, as long as you don't need to take cover (RB) and shoot your gun (RT). Was your second sentence a masturbation joke?  If so, good one. ;)

Left hand thumb on the left analoge, index and/or middlefinger on LB and LT, and my righthand's middlefinger on RB/RT.  Its not ideal, but it works pretty decent.

Read it, before I make a picture explaining it. My left index and/or middlefinger on LB and LT. My right index on any of the buttons (A/X/B/Y) My right middlefinger on RB/RT, if need be, my ring finger. Thumbs on the analoges.  Besides, you can't shoot while sprinting anyway, shooting or aiming takes you down to a slower, non sprinting, pace. And also, quickly using a occupied finger to press RB to switch into cover is hardly an amazing feat.  I may sound nitpicking by now, but this is how I've been playing for years and its far from hard. You must have a great time playing any pc game with more then 5 keybinds I presume.

@Pinworm45:  Thanks.  Seriously, grab a Xbox controller and position your fingers like I said. Try playing with it for a bit. Its not ideal, but it works and gets the job done.

Index finger on A, thumb on the camera, works for me.  Thought gamers were supposed to be good with their hands?

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think you automatically run when you have a weapon drawn.  Maybe that's just multiplayer.

Wait...Whats the issue?

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think you automatically run when you have a weapon drawn.  Maybe that's just multiplayer.

@HatKing said:

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think you automatically run when you have a weapon drawn.  Maybe that's just multiplayer.

No, that's singleplayer. They actually fixed the problem in multiplayer, so that it's "hold the stick out a little to walk, all the way to run, and hold down the A button to sprint." They seem to recognize that this is an issue, since they negated it for the portion where you really need fast reflexes, but they insist on implementing it in singleplayer mode. :P

yeah after playing assassins creed of all games , i thought the controls and just overall clumsyness of movement was freaking primitive and a step wayyy behind , a place no one wants to go to. Damnit rockstar fix it.

Just playing Undead Nightmare and they fixed the auto-holstering! Woohoo, go Rockstar!