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    SAW

    Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Oct 06, 2009

    Saw is a survival horror video game based on the popular movie franchise of the same name in which players will encounter familiar characters and solve puzzles to progress. Developed by Zombie Studios and published by Konami, the game runs on the Unreal Engine 3.

    All Of The Saw Movies Are Terrible...Except The First One

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    Edited By Mars_Cleric

    I understand how people who have seen the Saw movies can find them bad, because they are...for the most part. 
    From the second movie onwards, the focus has been on elaborate and disgusting ways to make people mutilate and/or kill themselves or others. 

    I don't know if everyone who hates these movies has seen the first one but there is little to no gore in it. 
    In my opinion this makes it so much better because it is more of a psychological thriller rather than a "torture porn" type of film. 
    It’s well acted and has many interesting twists that made it a great movie built around the emotions and mental state of the characters rather than shoving blood and guts in your face and then saying “oh, by the way there’s these people and stuff...” 
     
    So my recommendation is see the first movie and never watch a Saw movie ever again.

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    #1  Edited By Mars_Cleric

    I understand how people who have seen the Saw movies can find them bad, because they are...for the most part. 
    From the second movie onwards, the focus has been on elaborate and disgusting ways to make people mutilate and/or kill themselves or others. 

    I don't know if everyone who hates these movies has seen the first one but there is little to no gore in it. 
    In my opinion this makes it so much better because it is more of a psychological thriller rather than a "torture porn" type of film. 
    It’s well acted and has many interesting twists that made it a great movie built around the emotions and mental state of the characters rather than shoving blood and guts in your face and then saying “oh, by the way there’s these people and stuff...” 
     
    So my recommendation is see the first movie and never watch a Saw movie ever again.

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    #2  Edited By Absurd

    I havent seen a single one, and I don't plan to.

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    #3  Edited By bed

    i liked the first one 
    after that..it just got out of hand 

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    #4  Edited By agentboolen

    The story has become over convoluted and is waaaaay to hard to follow anymore.  Its to the point I'd rather they just stop and try to figure out something else.
     
    Everyone go out and see Halloween 2 (the best modern day Frankenstein movie)    =)

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    #5  Edited By KowalskiManDown
    @Absurd said:
    " I havent seen a single one, and I don't plan to. "
    You seriously should reconsider with the first Saw movie. It's one of the best movies of the past 10 years in my opinion.
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    #6  Edited By Griddler
    @Mars_Cleric:  I agree with you entirely. Saw 1 is fantastic, I'm with you on the plot twists as well. All the movies have some kind of plot twist in them but none of them are as good or unexpected as the first film's.
    EDIT: Accidentally replied to creamypies before.
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    #7  Edited By HandsomeDead

    The first seven words of your title are correct. After that, it's downhill.

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    #8  Edited By KowalskiManDown
    @girdz said:
    " @Mars_Cleric:  I agree with you entirely. Saw 1 is fantastic, I'm with you on the plot twists as well. All the movies have some kind of plot twist in them but none of them are as good or unexpected as the first film's. EDIT: Accidentally replied to creamypies before. "
    Agreed. Anyone who says they saw the ending of Saw coming, is a downright liar. It's one of the few plot twists that completely caught me off guard.
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    #9  Edited By jakob187

    No no no.  You had it right before you hit the "...except the first one" part.  Just take that off and you've made a correct statement.

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    #10  Edited By Mars_Cleric
    @jakob187: 
    No no no.  You had it right before you hit the "before you hit the"  part.  Just take that off and you've made a correct statement
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    #11  Edited By Chokobo

    Don't judge the first Saw movie until you've seen it.
     
    It is nothing like the others (i.e. It is great).

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    #12  Edited By ninjakiller

    All of them are torture pr0n, nothing more.

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    I liked the first one, second was ok and yes after that i stopped caring

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    #14  Edited By cjmhockey

    I thought the first one was good. Saw the second one and didn't care much for it, haven't seen a single one since.

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    #15  Edited By Scooper

    You know I might watch the first 1 next weekend round my mates. I don't like seeing torture movies because it isn't my sort of thing but I hear Saw 1 isn't so much like that.

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    #16  Edited By Gabriel

    First one had Danny Glover and Miles from Lost in it right?
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    #17  Edited By Whisperkill

     
    American horror films suck, period. They are ALL gore porn. Name me ONE good American horror film that has come out in the last 10 years.

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    #19  Edited By KowalskiManDown
    @PeasForFees: It's called an opinion for a reason, idiot.
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    #20  Edited By toowalrus

    2nd one wasn't aweful.

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    #21  Edited By TwoOneFive

    i agree 
     
    they all turned into gore fests and basically slasher style films.  
     
    the first one was all about the anticipation and the incredible tensity.  they didnt have to show anything violent at all. first time i saw it i was blown away. 

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    #22  Edited By DER
    @Whisperkill said:
    "  American horror films suck, period. They are ALL gore porn. Name me ONE good American horror film that has come out in the last 10 years. "
    the first saw movie
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    #23  Edited By MeierTheRed

    First SAW movie was fine, it was fresh at that time. Last two i watched where garbage, so i haven't been keeping up with the rest. But i would imagine that they haven't broken away from the formula they used in 2 and 3, so i cant be bothered watching those crap movies.

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    #24  Edited By breadfan

    I've never had the urge to watch a Saw film, don't plan to anytime soon. 
     
    Watching people get messed up beyond imagination doesn't appeal to me.

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    #25  Edited By TwoOneFive
    @Whisperkill said:

    "  American horror films suck, period. They are ALL gore porn. Name me ONE good American horror film that has come out in the last 10 years. "

    i only see horror movies that get a lot of buzz, and the preview is actually very intriguing.  
    I only see them in the theater.  
    And usually once is enough.  
    Here are some movies that immediately popped in my mind that were excellent horror films that did their job when i first saw them in theater (make me feel fear and thrill me and left me thinking afterwards) 
    28 Days, Signs (dude it freaked me out when i saw it in theaters), Sixth Sense, Saw, and umm oh yeah The Decent. That movie had me goin with all the claustrophobic shit. 
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    @Mars_Cleric said:
    "

    I understand how people who have seen the Saw movies can find them bad, because they are...for the most part. 
    From the second movie onwards, the focus has been on elaborate and disgusting ways to make people mutilate and/or kill themselves or others. 

    I don't know if everyone who hates these movies has seen the first one but there is little to no gore in it. 
    In my opinion this makes it so much better because it is more of a psychological thriller rather than a "torture porn" type of film. 
    It’s well acted and has many interesting twists that made it a great movie built around the emotions and mental state of the characters rather than shoving blood and guts in your face and then saying “oh, by the way there’s these people and stuff...” 
     
    So my recommendation is see the first movie and never watch a Saw movie ever again.

    "
    Dude you think the exact same fucking way as me, all my friend are like "NO WAY MAN ALL DA ODDER SAWS R BETTER, DA STORY IS REAL GUD TO" 
    I think if they left it at Saw 1, it would be a horror classic.
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    #28  Edited By kariyanine
    @TwoOneFive said:
    28 Days, Signs (dude it freaked me out when i saw it in theaters), Sixth Sense, Saw, and umm oh yeah The Decent. That movie had me goin with all the claustrophobic shit.  "
    I am assuming you are referring to 28 Days Later?  In anycase 28 Days Later and The Descent are both Brit horror films not American ones.  Signs is at best a sci-fi thriller and the Sixth Sense is a horror film by material (ghosts) association only.  You are not making a very good argument for American horror flicks with that statement.
     
    In anycase I would argue that Saw II (along with the original Hostel) are the only two decent examples of "torture porn".  Saw (which could be said to have ushered in the "torture porn" phenomenon)  is a good psychological horror flick but it suffers from weak pacing, poor writing and some ham-fisted acting by Carey Elwes and Danny Glover.
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    #29  Edited By Ozzie

    I will only argue that the second one was amazing just like the first,  the second one had more gore, but it wasn't a lot and it was more of a chilling gore with the needles (if you've seen the movie you'll understand) and the others so i think the first two movies can stand out as the best.  As for the others ... well they blow.

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    #31  Edited By flaminghobo

    I've only seen the first SAW movie and I actually enjoyed it. As for the sequels, the way people have talked about them has brought me to a conclusion. To watch the sequels you need to have a mentality that you're watcing it to see people be killed in interesting ways, rather than for an actual good film.

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    #32  Edited By GunstarRed

    All of the saw movies are everything that is bad about horror movies in general. 
     
    The first one (the only one I have seen in full) is absolute trash.
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    #33  Edited By chilipeppersman
    @agentboolen:  totally right. i really wanted to go see H2 but it was out of theaters too quick
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    #34  Edited By Mars_Cleric
    @marioncobretti said:
    "All of the saw movies are everything that is bad about horror movies in general.  The first one (the only one I have seen in full) is absolute trash. "
    While it's not the best horror movie, I wouldn't say that it's "absolute trash". It's a great movie and, as far as I know, an original concept that worked for the first one. 
    It's too bad that once a new concept is found to be popular they run it into the ground.
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    #35  Edited By Wolswor

    All the saw movies are pretty bad, they think WAAAY too much of themselves.  I'd rather watch a PoS scifi movie that was made on a budget of 250$ but it doesn't take itself so seriously.  I mean, In saw II(III mabye?)  They go to such elaborate lengths to try and convince you that this evil dude is such a mastermind and this movie, while fake, contains things that make it seem real.  Then you see the main villan, an old dude with cancer, drive off a fucking cliff, get impaled, take the damn pole out of his chest and get up and walk off.  WTF SAW?!?

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    #36  Edited By yetiantics

    i stopped after 3. as soon as i saw the (CENSORED FOR SPOILER), I pretty much said "okay, main story arc done. rest will be overkill". 
     
    I was right because i heard 4 was an origins movie of sorts.
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    #37  Edited By Deusoma

    Frankly, I don't understand why people watch any horror movies. Fear is not entertainment.
     
    (Edited to sound less like flamebait :P )

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    #38  Edited By minotaka
    @agentboolen: lol is that true? i havent seen it yet!  ... i think i saw the first one last year.....  but i dont even remember if that was ... no wait that was Jason.. Christ, i get so confused.
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    #39  Edited By NinjaHunter
    @Deusoma said:
    " Frankly, I don't understand why people watch any horror movies. Fear is not entertainment.  (Edited to sound less like flamebait :P ) "
    That's like saying "I don't understand why people play shooting games. Killing isn't entertainment." It's the thrill of danger without being in any actual danger. 
     
    But back on topic, I enjoyed the first one but never cared enough to watch any of the sequels.
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    #40  Edited By JJWeatherman

    I don't get why people feel so strongly against the Saw series. Sure they aren't gonna win any emmys but have you guys even seen a movie called "Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus"? Now THAT is a movie that people can rightfully complain about. It's laughably bad although that does make it kind of fun to watch. So anyways, my point is stop hating on Saw when there are so many completely god-awful, shitty movies to hate on.

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    #41  Edited By Mars_Cleric

    @JJWeatherman said:

    "I don't get why people feel so strongly against the Saw series. Sure they aren't gonna win any emmys but have you guys even seen a movie called "Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus"? Now THAT is a movie that people can rightfully complain about. It's laughably bad although that does make it kind of fun to watch. So anyways, my point is stop hating on Saw when there are so many completely god-awful, shitty movies to hate on. "


    because they didn't just make shitty movies, they took a good movie concept and ran it into the ground.  
    It went from a psycho making a person decide how much they will sacrifice of themselves in order to keep living into "hey we're gonna throw a bunch of blood and guts around the set, let's film it and make a tonne of money. I are smart." 
     
    P.S. 
    I love watching shitty movies but the Saw sequels are below shit. They're redundant

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    #42  Edited By grimmspectre18
    @DER: Drag Me To Hell .. first horror movie to actually make me jump in years, mostly due to the incredible sound design.
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    #43  Edited By kraznor

    Well, didn't think it was very good but the only one I've seen was the first one. And dude, that twist was about as stupid as "The Usual Suspects" twist. There is literally no way for any audience member to figure it out, its a rug-pull of the lowest order.

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    @Mars_Cleric said:
    "

    I understand how people who have seen the Saw movies can find them bad, because they are...for the most part. 
    From the second movie onwards, the focus has been on elaborate and disgusting ways to make people mutilate and/or kill themselves or others. 

    I don't know if everyone who hates these movies has seen the first one but there is little to no gore in it. 
    In my opinion this makes it so much better because it is more of a psychological thriller rather than a "torture porn" type of film. 
    It’s well acted and has many interesting twists that made it a great movie built around the emotions and mental state of the characters rather than shoving blood and guts in your face and then saying “oh, by the way there’s these people and stuff...” 
     
    So my recommendation is see the first movie and never watch a Saw movie ever again.

    "
    Took the words right out of my mouth.
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    #45  Edited By Cornman89

    I agree with you, sir, and think this is a delightful sentiment!

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    #46  Edited By ErgoProxy77
    @Mars_Cleric: Well, I wouldn't state your argument as fact.  Just to be clear, it is just your opinion, and here is mine, which is not superior or lesser.  I really like the Saw series.  Even though there may be some actors who I find did not fit the role, or awkward writing in some situations, I find that the sequels are still good.  I would have to agree with you that the first one was really really good, it was a new fresh idea in horror.  However, I think the series is not on a downward spiral.  The most recent one actually surprised me.  The death contraptions in Saw 5 were strikingly different than the ones in previous movies.  This could be because SPOILER the real jigsaw died.  This also caused a more psychological tone in the story of Saw 5, hence, not a very "torture porn" kind of movie for the Saw series.   At least, that's what I think.
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    #47  Edited By Mars_Cleric
    @ErgoProxy77 said:
    " @Mars_Cleric: Well, I wouldn't state your argument as fact.  Just to be clear, it is just your opinion, and here is mine, which is not superior or lesser.  I really like the Saw series.  Even though there may be some actors who I find did not fit the role, or awkward writing in some situations, I find that the sequels are still good.  I would have to agree with you that the first one was really really good, it was a new fresh idea in horror.  However, I think the series is not on a downward spiral.  The most recent one actually surprised me.  The death contraptions in Saw 5 were strikingly different than the ones in previous movies.  This could be because SPOILER the real jigsaw died.  This also caused a more psychological tone in the story of Saw 5, hence, not a very "torture porn" kind of movie for the Saw series.   At least, that's what I think. "
    To be honest, I have not seen the most recent Saw movie. I kind of gave it up for dead and decided not to see it. However my brother has seen it and liked it so I'm not above checking it out if it is indeed good.
    My only concern is, if what you say is true, I may like it for the sole reason of it being a return to form after some mediocre sequels. 
    But I just can't believe they've mad six of these movies. No horror movie franchise should be longer than three movies. Did they not to see what happened to the Freddy, Jason and Halloween franchises? 
    They should just let it rest where it is, but they won't until it's been run into the ground and milked for every last dollar it can cough up... 
    Anyway... 
    If they can redeem the series, good for them but I just don't know when they're going to get around to doing it. 
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    #48  Edited By najaf

    I saw the first...(pun?) and have not ventured beyond. I did admire what the first film accomplished and was curious but never did dive in to the sequels.

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    #49  Edited By Alex_Murphy

    Most film series gets worse with every sequel. The only three exceptions that I can think of off the top of my head where the second one was better than the first are Terminator 2, Aliens, and Fivel Goes West. Although I have talked to people who will say that Alien is better than the squeals because it's more horror and suspense. And I've heard people say Terminator was better for the same reasons as well as saying it has a better plot. Personally I saw Aliens and T2 before I saw the original movies so I'll never really know if that had anything to do with the sequels being my favorites.

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    #50  Edited By Mars_Cleric
    @Alex_Murphy said:
    "Most film series gets worse with every sequel. The only three exceptions that I can think of off the top of my head where the second one was better than the first are Terminator 2, Aliens, and Fivel Goes West. Although I have talked to people who will say that Alien is better than the squeals because it's more horror and suspense. And I've heard people say Terminator was better for the same reasons as well as saying it has a better plot. Personally I saw Aliens and T2 before I saw the original movies so I'll never really know if that had anything to do with the sequels being my favorites. "

    also Evil Dead 2 was better than The Evil Dead

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