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Playdate: 09/06/2019

It's time to take Control and make it look pretty and trace the rays. After that we'll dive into some classic SNES games, and finally fart and grab things!

The crew of Giant Bomb invites you to join us for some fun times with video games.

Sep. 6 2019

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan

Posted by: Vinny

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Fontelroy • 

Fantastic! Heave Ho seems like a real gem, and great for streaming!

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bathala • 

Funky Store is close for today

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archnite • 

IDK... I just feel like sharing that Duke Nukem 3D didn't actually do "reflections" it was a copy of the world that you looked at through a hole in that wall. Other games that do working prior to RTX is actually rendering the world again through a camera attached to the mirror. There's other solutions but those are two early tricks.

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"I'm not going to spoil anything" then proceeds to drop what I'd consider the biggest spoiler of the game "I just got the ability to fly". I get that it's technically a gameplay spoiler, but going into the game I had no clue it opened up like that. It was a real 'holy shit' moment that wouldn't have been there if I'd known it was a thing.

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Edited By violentmonk • 

@synthesis_landale: I don't think it's fair to consider that a big spoiler when plenty (if not all) of the trailers and pre-release footage deliberately show it off along with the rest of the powers.

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@violentmonk: I guess I lucked out there because I only watched a tiny bit of pre-release stuff since I knew I'd be playing 'the next Remedy game'.

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At 49:30 or so, Vinny says he wishes Donkey Kong Country was one of the Super Nintendo games added to the Switch Online, Dan says that was made by Rare, and Alex says they have a relationship again. Not sure how this myth still exists, but Nintendo can do whatever they want with Donkey Kong Country. Rare/Microsoft have no control over that series or any characters they created for it, so the "relationship" is irrelevant.

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Let Dan hold that tricaster tablet like a guitar = ?????

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Didn't they have a 1080 in that pc before? Seems like kind of a waste of money to basically side grade to a 2070 just to turn on ray tracing in some games.

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Edited By Outrager • 

You guys should enable DLSS. It lowers quality a tiny bit compared to everything max, but improves performance immensely. I get like ~80FPS with it on with my laptop and everything maxed.

It's one of the perks of an RTX card other than ray tracing.

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sammo21 • 

I really, really, really don't see how Alex had trouble with any of the puzzles in this game. Hearing him on the quicklook I expected total nonsense or just bad puzzles...nope, just small puzzles. That entire quicklook is a really bad entry that doesn't properly show the game off in my opinion.

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Wow GB has been on a role of showing late game stuff for games that just came out.

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Oh man, the "rewind it" moment was great. Alex canonically didn't win!

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just shoehorning FE3H's mechanics into Mario Kart now

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steveurkel • 

Control has joined my top 10 games of all time list because i haven't felt joy like I do in that game in many many years.

The more I think about it it is probably 5 or 6 on that list because we got quake, quake 3, doom 2, a.c. Odyssey and then it's either control or ravenshield next.

I just get happiness I don't ever get playing this game. My counselor calls it "joy", I just consider it the absence of sadness for the fleeting moment I can actually feel something.

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I am also from Cobb County Georgia...Can confirm my name is Bubba.

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Dan's victory in Mario Kart is some Samot level bullshit. I love it!

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I would watch these chuckle folks play Heave Ho hour after hour, all day long.

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I'm glad there's finally a way to play Super Nintendo games.

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Edited By indigozeal • 

A mildly-difficult saw maze easily negotiated on the first try does not constitute a Kaizo level, I'm afraid. I stand by my comments on the low entertainment value of Kaizo levels. The closest we've gotten to Kaizo in official Mario is the Japanese SMB2, and that approach was quickly abandoned. There's a reason for that.

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Heave Ho seems like it could go for a Hitman style GOTY run, and I think I'd be ok with that.

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Alex about Yoshi's Island: "It's just the people who hate it are very much over the top about how much they hate it." Hmmm I wonder who he's talking about...

Edit: oh it's not just Jeff apparantly hahaha.

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Edited By Humanity • 

I'm glad that Vinny took the time to flip the RTX on and off because while those reflections in that single panel were one of those "oh shit.." moments.. it's not enough to push me over the edge just yet. When this tech gets more standardized and ray-tracing capable cards become more of a norm I'll dig in. For now, ehh, it's a flourish I don't need to splurge on just yet.

@synthesis_landale About that Control spoiler - I've taken a cue from some online conversations and not mentioned that ability, but I am not sure where the trend came from since it has been showcased in numerous trailers for this game. I personally think that the seize ability that lets you control enemies is a much bigger spoiler since that was an actual surprise for me yet I typically see people mention that one a lot more casually.

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Dan, if you can stop talking about Wrestling for a single live stream I will give you a hundred bucks.

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I think I can smell another this is the run coming...Joe and Mac 2?

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Control is a beautiful game but Heave Ho is a beautiful game.

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You can do SuperFX overclocking with bsnes.

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My goodness, the track from Yoshi Island at 1:08:45 sounds nearly identical to one of either Spring or Summer themes in Stardew Valley.

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control looks not fun on controller , im glad i played it mouse and keyboard.

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control looks not fun on mouse and keyboard , im glad i played it controller

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Edited By murph • 

Just as a public service, the best way to take out those floating guys in Control is to launch at them twice. The first they usually dodge and then you quickly grab something else and launch it at them and they can't dodge it, presumably it's like Jesse's dodge, eats up their energy and they can't use it twice in succession.

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murph • 

Second public service announcement. Zooming in with anything other than pierce isn't really the optimal way to use the Service Weapon. Running and gunning with them there's a decent amount of auto-aim, you'll land more shots, be more mobile and come out of most fights better.

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I've been loving Control so far (probably near the end of the game), but man I extremely hate the rocket launcher guys. The amount of times I've eaten a rocket to the face immediately after entering a door or eaten one to the back of the head because their rockets are lost in the cacophony of noise is a few times too many for my taste.

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Dan, the thing you were talking about is called color banding and is fixed when HDR is enabled. It's a limitation of 8 bit color depth. HDR uses 10 bit color depth and allows for way more shades of color to blend together.

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I skipped this one because it didn't show up live on the Xbox app and then I thought it would be all Control spoilers but it looks like they didn't play it for very long so I can watch this after all.

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Edited By The_Nubster • 

Ugh this is making me wanna get an RTX card. Cube-mapped reflections on my system are all shimmery and I have no idea why, and this looks so clean and good...

Edit: Wait did Vinny say $500 video card?... *cries in Canadian*

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For those avoiding any Control spoilers, they play the game from 00:01:59 to 00:40:24.

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Edited By haneybd87 • 

@samuraievo: This is true, although color banding in dark scenes can become way more obvious if the black levels are set wrong. I’m guessing that he has the wrong setting in either Nvidia control panel or on his tv because he says everything looks washed out. This is a really confusing setting for standard users and the interplay between the 2 settings on PC and TV just confuses things even more. It would be nice if HDMI implemented some kind of automatic standard that people didn’t have to mess with.

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The thing that is the biggest roadblock for raytracing is that devs have gotten real good at faking all of it with various tricks. While the difference is certainly there, it's just such a big hit to performance, so I'm not in a rush to get the first generation of these cards, but maybe the next one.

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@synthesis_landale: I know!!! I had to skip so much of the Beastcast because FOR SOME REASON they don't consider power-ups, one of the coolest discoveries, to be a spoiler?! C'mon...